A Blog With Unlimited Bandwidth (Beta 1.2)

jcr13 writes "konspire2b is a new content distribution system that essentially turns the standard p2p model upside down. This simple change gives the network several nice properties, including log-bounded distribution times (logarithmic in the number of nodes that receive a file) and a refreshingly different (and somewhat blog-like) user-interaction model. Comparisons have been made to other systems, including BitTorrent (with in-depth analysis), but k2b stands alone as a unique system tackling a different problem than other p2p systems. Recent Slashdot attention gave the network an effective stress test and provided the first real-world measurement results. The new beta1.2 release contains fixes for all of the issues encountered during this traffic surge."

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So so

[indros]

I tried this a couple of weeks ago.. It's so so, but as a user you didn't really have the ability to get files you want, but what other people want you to get, and it seems very unpredictable as far as start time, length of download, etc. Of course it was still beta so I expect to see improvements yet.

OTOH, it's nice just to sit there and let the pr0n roll in.

Re:So so

[greenalbatros]

The point here is that this is designed for situations where tens of thousands of people all want the same content at the same time


as the man said: porn porn porn porn porn....

Damn

[Gortbusters.org]

Got a slashdotting and kept on ticking. Surely must be a sign of the apocalypse!

Huh?

[GMontag]

essentially turns the standard p2p model upside down

I thought b2b was already old hat?

Oh, completely upside down? b5b, yep that is new but what the heck does it mean?

Web Based Interface

[mistermund]

The web based interface is refresing.

That's one of the biggest strengths that Audiogalaxy had (before the service got defanged). You could run their Linux client on a box at home, then sign into the Audiogalaxy site from anywhere (work, school, etc) and grab different things. Made it easy to run the client somewhere safe, with a fast connection, or lots of drive space, and get to it from anywhere. Nice to see another app taking the same approach (though you host the web interface yourself).

Works nicely

[Eloquence]

I've been running K2B for the last few days and it's quite impressive (the web-UI could still use some polishing, though). You can choose from several channels to subscribe to, such as "mp3jackpot", and automatically get the latest files broadcast in these channels while your node is running. At this time there are actually no illegal channels, at least I've seen none; the mp3jackpot channel above is run by mp34u, a site where music fans choose and rate freely available songs. Some of them are actually pretty good, and it's about time the net is used more effectively to promote the free music that's floating around.

There's even a channel called "publicdomain4u" which broadcasts very old music from the 1920s and 1930s. If you have something to say, you may consider setting up your own channel on k2b and use it to broadcast text files, music, videos etc. It is possible to share the private key to your channel so you can collaborate with others to broadcast files in it. I for one will be keeping an eye on the new channels that pop up. For those running other p2p clients: K2B doesn't normally take much bandwidth, you can use it in parallel.

P2P broadcasting may very well be the next important development. It's a bit like Usenet, but fully decentralized, and with some quality control (K2B has recommendation channels, and only users who own the channel private key can broadcast files in it, eliminating the spam problem).

Might this

[Anonymous Coward]

Finally be an effective distribution mechanism for the hundreds-of-small-files model that would be needed for among other things, say, p2p mirroring of webpages (html and image files) that Bram Cohen says has been so problematic?

At the least, couldn't, say, Keenspace save almost all of their bandwidth by use of this protocol, having people subscribe to channels for the webcomics they read daily and just releasing a new comic on the channel every day?

ANyway, questions i can't seem to work out from this page: 1) Does this have one big gnutella-like mesh, or does it follow BitTorrent's create-a-new-p2p-network-for-each-torrent file model? 2) Is the idea that you set up your "channel" to contain certain files, and anyone who's ever had that exact file anywhere on the Konspire network can download this file to you, or is it again like BitTorrent and if two different channels happen to share one file in common, the subscribers to each channel will be unable to use members of the other channel as mirrors?

If the former in each of the two questions above, this is the ULTIMATE rom distribution mechanism, and i eagerly look forward to using it for that purpose :)

Anyway this is neat to see, and good to see something like this done right. And wierdly enough, I actually expect this to be of much use to me in a totally legal fashion (the website my non-AC persona runs will soon be adding a regularly updated feature which i was expecting to be a major bandwidth drain, but which this Konspire thingy seems more or less just tailor-made for...)

- super ugly ultraman

it depends on the axis of the turn

[DrSkwid]

if the axis of rotation was the x (horizontal) axis then indeed it would be

d5d

however if the axis of rotation was either of the remaing axes then the result would be

b5b

Re:it depends on the axis of the turn

[jtosburn]

We need to work on our visualization skills; on /. there will always be a pedant to "help". In this case it's me.

If our axes are:

y
|
|
|
L________ x
/
/
/
z

Then rotating b2b around:

X --> 959, or q5q depending on if you're retaining relative position of the characters

Y --> d5d

Z --> 959, or q5q, once again depending on whether or not you're retaining relative position.

We'll skip the possible iterations of mirroring this time around ;)