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SCO Berates Linus' Approach To Kernel Contributions

Matthias_305 writes "The New York Times has an article about a new court document in which SCO critizes Linus Torvalds touting the 'inability and/or unwillingness of the Linux process manager, Linus Torvalds, to identify the intellectual property origins of contributed source code.' They claim to have got evidence from a conversation on the kernel mailing list in which Torvalds advocates programmers shouldn't care about patents. According to the article he stands by his view which is at least 'candid'." On a related note, BobDowling points to a proposal at The Inquirer ("Shutting down SCO's FUD machine") regarding SCO's claims. "SCO won't let people see the contested source code without signing an outrageous NDA but the article gives a mechanism for publishing appropriate MD5 checksums which allow code trees to be compared without anyone else seeing the code. This is offered as a means to locate the source of SCO's contested code. ... This mechanism gives a concrete procedure that SCO can be challenged to follow as part of the community's "put up or shut up" response. There would be no threat to SCO's claimed IPR."

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  1. Not normally a Linus fan but.. by CountBrass · · Score: 5, Funny

    GO LINUS, GO!

    of course Linus is going to have little regard for software patents. He's a European and that's one bit of stupidity we have yet to import from the US (please God we never do).

    I'm surprised SCO hasn't tried to persuade Linus to support them. "Join me my son!". ;-)

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    1. Re:Not normally a Linus fan but.. by cshark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course not. And I don't think they're going to. This whole thing is starting to remind me of the trash talking pro wrestlers do before they get in the ring. It's loud, but means little in the big scheme of things.

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  2. Where does the the line... by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where does the the line between "News for Nerds and Stuff that Matter" and Crap end? I can't take another SCO Article. Where is John Katz when you need him.

  3. SCO Icon Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    We need a special SCO icon; something that looks Darth Vaderish. Either that, or make it look like Lionel Hutz.

    1. Re:SCO Icon Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How about a crying baby?

    2. Re:SCO Icon Needed by AgTiger · · Score: 5, Funny

      Frankly, I think an icon of a monkey humping a football would pretty much sum up the caliber of executive decisions we're seeing out of SCO these days.

    3. Re:SCO Icon Needed by Eric+Damron · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think you give the SCO too much credit. A football humping a monkey might be closer.

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  4. Re:Another one by caranha · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry... At this point I'm waiting to see when they'll start a sco.slashdot.org section here... :-P

  5. Holy Crap! by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1, Funny

    SCO is now goping after the Father/Son/Holy Ghost that is Linus T.? Where's my pitchfork?

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    1. Re:Holy Crap! by Lxy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where's my pitchfork?

      Wrong OS :-)

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  6. Name aweraw [ Log Out ] Subject Comment L by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    That would stand to reason, since he is obviously the head of SCO's legal department...

  7. Mispellings in the NY times by Niksie3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mr. Torvalds developed the software engine, or kernal, blah blah blah

    Maybe we should ask Mister Steve Lohr to become a slashdot editor :)

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  8. Now if only Slashdot could md5 articles by theolein · · Score: 2, Funny

    then perhaps we could avoid dupes.

  9. Whew by twfry · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was getting worried. It had been almost a whole 24 hours without an SCO update. If it reached a full day I don't know what I would have done.

  10. Re:Another one by kamukwam · · Score: 1, Funny
    you can always disable SCO stories if it annoys you.

    I'd probrably be sued by them if I do that!

  11. A ratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    SCO is to linux
    as
    Tanya Harding is to Nancy Kerrigan

    New Slogan:
    "SCO, the Tanya Harding of Software Companies..."
    OOPS,
    that tarnishes Ms. Harding.

  12. SCOdot -- news about SCO, stuff that's old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Commander Taco should consider renaming this place.

  13. Black Hat Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    After they defeat Linus, they can come out with their new "Black Hat" (or "Black Helmet") Linux.

  14. Re: Name aweraw [ Log Out ] Subject Comment L by lightcycle · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dunno, but I have this mental image of the SCO board all squeezing into Jackie Chiles' office.
    (He's the lawyer Kramer often hires in Seinfeld, for those short of memory)

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  15. Re:NY Times Continuse Downward Slide by mrgrey · · Score: 0, Funny

    NY Times Continuse Downward Slide

    Not only them...

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  16. See! by leonbrooks · · Score: 4, Funny

    I told you those Linux zealots would try to hide the SCO stuff if we identified it!

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  17. If only by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're shooting themselves in the foot, and remove their shoes beforehand!

    Now, if we're really lucky we can get them to shove their foot in their mouth first too! :-D

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  18. Re:Anyone from SCO here? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Funny

    They don't have to legally gag them, just strongly hint that anyone who speaks to the press will be first for the next round of downsizing.

  19. How is SCO's lawsuit affecting sales of Linux? by drgroove · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I were a CIO or CTO debating the TCO of *nix vs. Win2K3 to a CEO, would IBM vs. SCO be the TKO that stops the CEO from approving A/P to pay my PO for RH's LGX?

    FWIW, even if OSS is FAIB, if the DOJ considers *nix IP with a TM, then it basically become's SCO's LIC, meaning our OSS becomes a CSS OS, which would RSTBO.

    AIBO going w/ an ASP that manages our OS? BTA, we might end up w/ a BOFH giving us ZA, which WWAD PMS.

    AFAIK, INMP if SCO wants to be ITM by enforcing its supposed IPR - *nix IP should be PD or GNU, like BSD just on GP, IYKWIM. I keep asking myself in this situation - WWLD?

    Oh, BTW - IITYWIMWYBMAD?

  20. I for one can't wait for the court date by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Two words:

    CHEWBACCA DEFENCE

  21. Here's a buck. by leonbrooks · · Score: 5, Funny

    Go buy yourself some more vowels.

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  22. Obligatory Space Balls Jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    SCO's CEO In a private conversation with the company lawyers: I knew it. I'm surrounded by Assholes. Keep suing, Assholes.

    SCO's CEO: Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

    SCO's Techs in regards to their latest DoS attack: DoSed? Raspberry packets! There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry. Linus Torvalds!

  23. the apparent strategy by kryzx · · Score: 1, Funny

    It seems that somehow the geniuses at SCO have been scheming and managed to come up with the following strategy:
    1) Piss off every person and company in your industry - really make them hate you
    2) ???
    3) Profit!!!

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  24. Re:Flaw in the 'shredding' mechanism? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you releasing that code under GPL?

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  25. Re:SCO is criticizing Linus for What??!! by Archie+Steel · · Score: 2, Funny

    Careful now, or SCO might sue you for not caring enough about it! ;-)

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  26. SCO owns big blue by flea69 · · Score: 2, Funny

    In related news SCO claims it hold the trademark for the three letter acronym IBM. "We bought it from a guy in Brooklyn for $7.50 and 17 glass beads."

  27. Article Headline Caused a Double-Take by The+Grassy+Knoll · · Score: 2, Funny

    "IBM's Opponent in Suit Criticizes Linux Advocate"

    WTF?I thought it was the IBM guys who traditionally were in suits?

    .

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  28. Jayson Blair school of fact checking by virtigex · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anybody here see the irony of SCO's comments appearing in the New York Times, previous employer of Jayson Blair. Now we have two reality distortion fields to deal with.

  29. Re:Anyone from SCO here? by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am a SCO employee (sips cool-aid)
    I have seen the code (sniffs powdery substance)
    We will own IBM (eyes widen)
    Linux is a copy of System V (sweat breaks out on brow)
    Space aliens will come to save our stock... (puts on white tennis shoes)

    OK, OK, IANASCOE. You have to feel for the developer-types there, though. They must be reading this kind of stuff. They can't use UNIX and not read Slashdot, right?

  30. What the Linux kernel team doesn't have by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Managers. Lots and lots of managers. (Perhaps I'm being funny here, but it's true at the same time.)

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  31. Re:Anyone from SCO here? by dvNull · · Score: 2, Funny

    There are SCO employees ? After reading what has been going on with SCO I was under the assumption that all non-management employees were fired to save money to pay for the lawyers. Like any software development actually goes on @ Sco these days .. sheesh ..

    dvnull

  32. I LOVE the head line! by funwithBSD · · Score: 5, Funny

    I.B.M.'s Opponent in Suit Criticizes Linux Advocate

    SCO is so insignificant it is not mentioned the headline! Those guys at the Times are smarter than I thought, I may have to kick down for a subscription.

    It is just so sad, I learned Unix on SCO, back in '92. Shame to see the old girl is on crack.

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  33. Re:Flaw in the 'shredding' mechanism? by src · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're just not shredding finely enough. You need to shred it down to individual characters and then take the MD5 of each character.

    See, that would prove that those so-and-so's copied the valuable SPACE character from SCO's IP.

  34. Re:Law in the USA by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny
    3. Yes, if SCO executives are indeed engaging in a pump and dump scheme, as seems most likely, that is fraud and would be a criminal offense. But on that one only time will tell for sure.

    I have an alternate theory. With SCO at its highest price in, well, just about forever (or at least it was, I haven't looked today) it is at this time also less vulnerable to a takeover than it has been in a very long time. Perhaps they're just trying to pump the stock price to avoid being purchased by someone really tiny. Like the local dollar store.

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  35. Re:Patents? WHAT patents? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is premium-quality BS.

    Funny... I thought this was half-assed BS, just like their half-assed legal maneuvers, and their half-assed products.

    Come to think of it, their lawyers are doing a half-assed effort on the half-assed legal maneuvers, so is this really three-quarters assed?

    The SCO Group's business plan:

    1. Create half-assed product that won't sell
    2. Buy rights to UNIX
    3. Get bought by Linux company
    4. Shed all ties to Linux and sue people for for some outlandish crap
    5. ???
    6. Profit!

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  36. Re:Anyone from SCO here? by bzImage8 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I use to work for them in the pre caldera era, and it was a really different company, im ashamed of what this "SCO" its doing. Its a reall shame.., a real shame. (i even have a SCO logo tattoo, yes i do, any cheap tatto removal procedure exists ?)

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