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The Power Behind the SCO Nuisance

akahige writes "Forbes has a fairly detailed story about the sordid history of The Canopy Group and all the various companies they've sued -- Microsoft (who they beat) and CA (this case is still pending), among them. Before joining Caldera, Darl McBride sued IKON Office Solutions, for whom he worked -- and won. And it also seems that a bunch of Canopy power players also sit on SCO's board of directors. The short summary is, 'these guys are professional litigious bastards -- be exceptionally wary.'" A local user's group is planning a protest for tomorrow. Reader myst564 writes: "After reading all of this SCO press I remembered that SCO once offered up all of their 'Ancient UNIX' (their words, not mine) source to the world while retaining all copyrights (i.e, no OSS license). Interestingly enough it WAS located here but isn't any longer: SCO's Ancient Unix. What's more you can read about the original release here at: Linux Today. I downloaded the source myself way back then but never did anything but delete it! Anyway, check out this comment. It's interesting that this was predicted in 2000!"

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  1. Feeling brave??? by monkey_tennis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quote: "these guys are professional litigious bastards"

    Given the statement that's a fairly brave thing to say in a public forum :)

  2. Obvious opportunity by worst_name_ever · · Score: 5, Funny
    these guys are professional litigious bastards

    Thanks for the libel, we were wondering who we were going to sue today. See you in court!

    Sincerely,
    The SCO Corporation

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    1. Re:Obvious opportunity by lovebyte · · Score: 5, Funny

      professional litigious yes, but bastard? I demand a DNA test !

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      I'll do it for cheesy poofs.

    2. Re:Obvious opportunity by KillerHamster · · Score: 2, Funny

      We at SCO have determined that IBM has illegally inserted our valuable DNA into the public gene pool. This is not just a few molecules; whole strands have been copied. Anyone using DNA is guilty of copyright infringment. You will be receiving letters from our legal team soon.

  3. I got a plan!! by MongooseCN · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lets all invest our money in SCOs stock!! Then they are guaranteed to tank and go out of business in no time! It's time we made this tech bubble burst work FOR us.

    1. Re:I got a plan!! by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Lets all invest our money in SCOs stock!! Then they are guaranteed to tank and go out of business in no time! It's time we made this tech bubble burst work FOR us.

      Hell, why not just get all /.ers to toss in $20 and BUY SCO? Then we could forget about all this crap and get on with news that really matters... (what's Natalie up to these days?).

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  4. Re:This is great news for Linux by Enrico+Pulatzo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yep, no person can own an idea--Amazon.com owns them!

  5. Why SCO will prevail in lawsuit by ReelOddeeo · · Score: 4, Funny

    It has now become clear to me that SCO has a very good chance of winning every single one of their claims.

    By observing the public statements made almost daily by SCO and their spokespeople, the secret of their strategy has emerged and I now clearly see it. There is a very real and serious danger here.

    Really, I must hand it to SCO. A brilliant legal strategy.

    I don't believe the open source community has previously contemplated this particular type of legal attack.

    SCO's strategy is simply this: they will win all claims, because IBM's lawyers will be unable to present a good defense, because IBM's lawyers are unable to concentrate, due to their inability to stop laughing. This will be especially unfavorable if this laughing behavior carries over into the courtroom.

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    1. Re:Why SCO will prevail in lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      SCO's strategy is simply this: they will win all claims, because IBM's lawyers will be unable to present a good defense, because IBM's lawyers are unable to concentrate, due to their inability to stop laughing. This will be especially unfavorable if this laughing behavior carries over into the courtroom.

      Don't worry. IBM's lawyers have *NO* sense of humor...

  6. Re:PLEASE!! IT'S GNU/SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    I thought it was a brand of tampons for goats.

    Turns out it's actually a firm that breeds goats in New Zeland. No, really!

  7. Start planning for withdrawal symptoms... by jazman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Never mind that stuff about decaffeinated coffee. What about weaning people onto deSCOffeinated Slashdot once this is all over? There'll be millions of geeks worldwide going "need..... SCO...... news......." and shaking.

  8. The mafia way. by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1, Funny
    That article revealed the names of people IBM could easily deal with the mafia way...

    "SCO is basically owned and run by The Canopy Group, a Utah firm with investments in dozens of companies. Canopy's chief executive, Ralph J. Yarro III, is chairman of SCO's board of directors and engineered the suit against Microsoft in 1996. Darcy Mott, Canopy's chief financial officer, is another SCO director, along with Thomas Raimondi, chief executive of a Canopy company called MTI Technology (nasdaq: MTIC - news - people ). In this cozy company, SCO even leases its office space from Canopy--a fact disclosed in Securities and Exchange Commission filings, along with the fact that SCO's chief financial officer, Robert Bench, has a side job as a partner in a Utah consulting firm that last year billed SCO for $71,200."

    Buy 'em a pair of concrete shoes, and make 'em sleep with the fishes. I don't think these guys have any idea who they are messing with. Some of the guys at IBM are not boy scouts. Capiche?

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  9. Stop Using SCO's products by clonebarkins · · Score: 5, Funny

    I almost wish now that I had been using SCO's products all along -- Just so I could make a declaration about how "I will never use them again!"

    But alas, some malevolent twist of fate has conspired to keep me from such bliss....

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  10. *Crunchies* ? Uh? by radio4fan · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other words, like many religious folk, the Linux-loving crunchies in the open-source movement are a) convinced of their own righteousness, and b) sure the whole world, including judges, will agree.


    In other words, like many religious folk, the money-grubbing fsckwits in the sue-the-world movement are a) convinced of their own righteousness, and b) sure the whole world, including judges, will take their word for it.

    Doh! I've been trolled by Forbes!
  11. IBM is in _BIG_ trouble, now! by Dj+Offset · · Score: 3, Funny

    The evidence is clear, right from the fresh 2.4.21 kernel (under bluetooth):
    "Say Y here to compile SCO support into the kernel or say M to compile it as module (sco.o)."

    Pretty strong evidence there, huh?

  12. Learned from the Bill Clinton Speak-N-Deny... by Lindril · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your honor, I downloaded the file, but I did not decompress.

  13. Crunchies? by sparkhead · · Score: 4, Funny

    "These guys in Utah are no dummies. The crunchies in the Linux community should be paying more attention. "

    I have a hard time taking seriously a writer who uses the word "crunchies".

  14. Re:This is great news for Linux by hendridm · · Score: 3, Funny

    For some reason, all I can picture is that scene from independence day where a bunch of people (SCO) are standing on top of the building cheering for (taunting) the big alien ship (IBM) that is slowly hovering over them, and without warning, emits an enormous death ray that quickly vaporizes them and destroys most of the city. IBM might move slowly, but they carry a big stick.

  15. Re:This is great news for Linux by zurkog · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article indicates to me its more like a duel between two masters.

    IBM: [struggling to keep SCO away] There's something I ought to tell you.
    SCO: Tell me!
    IBM: I'm not left-handed either.

  16. Is it just me? by NeuroManson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or does SCO seem to be more and more like the black knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail?

    IBM: You fought well sir knight, but the battle is mine.

    SCO: Tis but a scratch!

    IBM: A scratch?! I just took your arm off!

    SCO: It's just a flesh wound!

    ETC ETC ETC.

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  17. SCO Again!!! by Unleashd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Blah Blah Blah SCO Blah Blah Blah SCO Blah Blah Blah SCO Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah !!!!!! So ends the SCO rant!

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  18. Re:Even better, you can still download the code... by intermodal · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd say this is actually the most bizarre claim made by SCO yet.

    I wouldn't. I think the most bizarre claim is that SCO says IBM misappropriated trade secrets yet they have posted the code online freely accessible themselves.

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  19. Another cool comment in the Linux Today thread by theophilosophilus · · Score: 5, Funny

    The comment

    Richard N. Turner - Subject: I'm Reminded of An Old Post... ( Feb 23, 2000, 15:39:02 )

    ...that someone made on an online discussion, oh, about a year ago. It cracked me up so I saved it:

    ``SCO should do the industry a favor and disband, pausing only to bulk-format all their drives so that none of the evil source code can inadvertently escape into the world. Their marketing people and their tech support people should be sent to camps to be retrained for professions more suited to their skills and their buildings should be torn down and burned.''


    I think thats a bit prophetic.

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    1. Re:Another cool comment in the Linux Today thread by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
      Their marketing people and their tech support people should be sent to camps to be retrained for professions more suited to their skills

      How much training DOES it take to make a Big Mac?

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  20. Re:Joining the protest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Perhaps there was meant to be a NOT in there somewhere?

    Yeah, #5 for SCO's business plan :
    5) NOT Profit.

  21. Re:Even better, you can still download the code... by Darby · · Score: 2, Funny

    Linus uses an 8 space indent, which as far as I can tell is pretty rare

    I'm surprised nobody has told him that you can adjust that in vi.
    Think I should post the info to LKML ;-)

  22. Comprehensive synopsis of SCOs entire argument by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    All your code base are belong to us.

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  23. Re:Even better, you can still download the code... by Drakonian · · Score: 3, Funny
    Wow. If their claim is true and enforceable those are pretty amazing rights.

    Actually, I have some bad news for you all. I have copyright and full dsitribution rights to the "Hello World" (c) program. If any of you have ever started off a project with "Hello World" (c), regardless of what your program eventually became, then I own the full rights to your program. And I'm gonna sue you all for a combined 1 gazillion dollars.

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  24. The Hiring of Darl McBride by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
    There are strange things done under the midnight sun
    By the men who moil for gold;
    Whoops, never mind...

    I would love to have been a fly on the wall when the Caldera Board of Directors hired Darl McBride. I wonder if it went something like this:

    Chairman: Your record certain is very impressive Mr. McBride. In closing, do you feel that there is anything else about yourself that we should know to help us with our choice?
    McBride: Well, I did, uh, that is .. I sued my former employer for many millions while I was working for them and won.
    BoD: [Many looks around the table and private whispers]
    Chairman: Mr. McBride .. You're hired! You're our kind of guy!

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  25. Canopy group == Umbrella Corporation by silentbozo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone else hear "Canopy group" and instantly think about the evil Umbrella Corporation from the Resident Evil games? I mean, jeez, if you're going to run an evil empire, shouldn't you try picking a name that's just a little less conspicuous?