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PocketPC 2003 Reviewed

Sander Sassen writes "Prior to the official launch of the Microsoft PocketPC 2003 platform next Monday, Hardware Analysis puts an Asus MyPal a620 PocketPC to the test and details what new features PocketPC 2003 brings to the table and whether it is worth it to upgrade from 2002."

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  1. Re:because harddrives suck. by Trekie8472 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Power intensive yes, but you need to put your ear up to an iPod hard drive to hear it during normal play.

  2. Yes, but... by cloudless.net · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes it is, but no benchmark has been published yet so I have no idea how good the optimization is. Developers must rewrite their applications for Pocket PC 2003 in order to take advantage of the optimizations. The review kinda sucks because it tells us nothing about the performance.

  3. Re:because harddrives suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    During normal play, it's far more likely the hard drive is not on. The ipod plays music from its 32mb cache.

  4. Re:Very cool. by Doom+Ihl'+Varia · · Score: 4, Informative

    If it can do DVD decoding, it can do SVCD. They are both MPEG-2. SVCD is lower quality though so it is even EASIER to decode. Plus, you don't have to deal with decryption of the DVD data.

  5. Familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just use familiar with opie. You'll be happier, and have more spare change to buy things that matter.

  6. Odd... by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Huh I thought Pocket PC 2003 has been out for awhile because at work we've been selling a Toshiba E760 (which looks to be a E755 running Pocket PC 2003) for over a week now... I hadn't been keeping up on Pocket PC OS stuff very much so I didn't think anything of it when they came in... Of course once I saw the article I went to Toshiba's website & realized they don't even mention it... Huh, I wonder how fast I'd be fired if I wrote a review of it for the slashdot crowd & posted it tomorrow..

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    1. Re:Odd... by gantrep · · Score: 5, Informative

      The operating system is officially released on the 23rd. However there have been several models of handhelds out for a little while that come with 2003. I've got a Toshiba like you that I got 3 days ago that came with it. It's an e355.

  7. is it possible... by dfj225 · · Score: 3, Informative

    to upgrade the os on an older pocket pc? I just bought a new Dell Axim and would very much like to install Pocket PC 2003. Also, I would settle on just being able to install the updated version of IE, cause the one on there now sucks.

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    1. Re:is it possible... by thynk · · Score: 3, Informative

      I just bought a new Dell Axim and would very much like to install Pocket PC 2003.

      Hmmm... I was interested in this since I order 2-4 Axims a week for work. I did a bit of digging around and here is what I found. This was on one of the Dell support pages Dated 17 Jun 03


      Thank you for using the Dell Community Forum.

      Yes, Pocket PC 2003 is real. I do not have a firm date when Dell will begin shipping Pocket PC 2003, or when upgrades will be available, or who will be eligible for free upgrades.

      One warning. I have been told that many applications that work in Pocket PC 2002 do not work in Pocket PC 2003. It appears that Pocket PC 2003 is a major Operating System upgrade and that some applications will have to be recompiled for it.

      I am at the moment testing a few applications on Pocket PC 2003, and so far I have only found one application, the game Argentum that will not run. I do not have a list of applications that will work with Pocket PC 2003, but I will try to keep you posted about any applications that I have trouble with.


      Hope the moderator of that forum isn't too upset that I quoted with out requesting permission, but to the best of my knowldge this is a open to the public site.

      It does look like there WILL be an upgrade path, that a ROM for the Axim has been developed (as this moderator had one) and that it doesn't melt your PPC when you install it.

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  8. Re:You mean Internet Explorer for Windows by jameslore · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll bite :-)

    IE isn't standards compliant because it breaks several W3C standards and doesn't support many of the standards it implements properly. That's a fact I'm afraid. Whether or not the behaviour in IE should be standard is up for debate (though I choose Moz).

    IE isn't too bad, outstanding issues which make it a pain in the arse include:

    1) Bollocks PNG support. Alpha channel support needs a custom tag (DXImage filter or something similar).
    2) CSS box model, width includes margins/padding size.
    3) Doesn't support absolute positioning without width/height size: e.g.

    top: 100px;
    bottom: 100px;
    width: 100%;

    will result in a box 0px (unless there's content in which case it's the content height) and 100% wide. In mozilla and compliant broswers it is a box 100px from the top of the window to 100px from the bottom.
    4) Background positioning from a origin doesn't work (see CSS/Edge for a demo, link is on mozilla.org/start/1.0).
    5) CSS 2 content generation support is nonexistant. CSS 2 support in general is hit and miss.
    6) No support for W3C event system.
    7) Lots of other small issues which slip my mind at present :-)

    Lists of CSS support/bugs tend to be fairly easy to find on the net though many are a little out of date.

  9. Re:You mean Internet Explorer for Windows by Trelane · · Score: 3, Informative

    Opacity is in the upcoming CSS3 standard, which Mozilla is helping test. Thus, it was prefixed with moz- to specify that it wasn't in a full-fledged standard.

    Actually, a bug was found in CSS2 because of Mozilla's strict standards support (see Netscape's development documents on images in a table for more info).

    The nice thing about Mozilla is that its extensions tend to be obvious. TMK, all Mozilla off-standard stuff is recognizable as such, as you have so aptly demonstated (note the "moz-" prefix). Unlike Other Browsers which implement their extensions in unrecognizable fashion (e.g. MARQUEE tag).

    Anyhow, you're not talking about not supporting standards, you're talking of adding to the stuff out there (and note that I've shown that Mozilla is being a good citizen in this respect!). For supporting existing W3C standards, nothing is better than Mozilla, and IE falls far short. Example: DOM level 2 compliance, esp. wrt. event handling.

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  10. yeah, but by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 2, Informative

    IE5/Mac Supports all of these, and it supports them well.

    All I was saying is that the parent poster should distinguish IE/Mac and IE/Win, since they are different products and they have wildly different levels of standards support.

    Pardon the typos, I'm extremely drunk.

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  11. Re:it is never worth upgrading a microsoft product by dagar17 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually Microsoft has gone to great lengths in order to not break compatability with many products. This has also made many products (eg Windows) weaker. Thats why you can still run 10 year old windows software on windows xp.

  12. Re:Battery life by -audiowhore- · · Score: 2, Informative

    ummmm RTFA? last paragraph of the summary and conclusion here:

    "Overall, the Asus MyPal a620 proved to be an excellent PocketPC, with great battery life, easily making it through a full day of extensive use and hours of multimedia playback. On average we clocked between 10 till 12 hours on the battery, which is a little more than weâ(TM)ve seen from popular PocketPC 2002 devices. If youâ(TM)re in the market for an affordable, yet powerful and versatile, PocketPC be sure to give the Asus MyPal a620 a serious consideration."

  13. Re:Yes... but, the real question is: by dubStylee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can it run non-Microsoft apps?

    I've run Perl under pocketpc OS. I've heard that Apache, and Python will also run there. There's a java VM for pocketpc. With mono and .NET there are now other possibllities too.

  14. Re:hot grits? by dubStylee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although I agree with you in general about IE and standards, moving from pocketPC 2002 to pocketPC 2003 is moving from IE 3.0 to IE 6.0 and by any measure, there is a huge improvement in standards support between those two versions. Try writing an ECMAscript or DOM app with Jscript (not even JavaScript) and you'll know what I mean.