New G5 Power Macs "Fastest Desktop In The World"
Beyond the many numbers, the bottom line is that the new machines have a new architecture, and that the memory speed is now the bottleneck, not the processor or bandwidth speeds. So they can have up to 8GB of 128-bit DDR RAM, as it is efficient to keep data in memory. The memory bandwidth is one of the most talked-about features of the new architecture.
USB 2.0 is now included, as are FireWire 400 and 800, Bluetooth, AirPort Extreme, and digital audio in and out. The 4x SuperDrive is now standard, and it can house up to 500GB of internal storage.
For video, the GeForce FX5200 is standard on low-end models, Radeon 9600 Pro on high-end models.
The case of the new machines is redesigned too, from the ground up, focusing on decreasing noise and heat. It is an aluminum enclosure, with ports for FireWire and USB on the front, and a door on the side to get into the box. It has four distinct "thermal zones" with computer-controlled cooling with its nine (yes, nine) independent fans. And it is much quieter than its predecessor.
The G5 is 10 percent slower than the P4 and Xeon in SPEC int scores in single-proc units, but 20 percent faster in FPU scores, and the dual-proc G5 beats the dual-proc Xeon in all SPEC scores.
The models are a single 1.6 GHz ($1999), single 1.8GHz ($2399), and dual 2GHz ($2999). They will ship in August. A 3GHz processor will be available from IBM in 12 months.
Apple notes that recompiling apps for the 64-bit architecture is easy, and in some cases can be done in minutes.
There was no word about the heavily anticipated redesign of the 15" PowerBooks.
If by "fastest" you mean "slowest". Or by "world" you mean "this here bathroom stall".
Seriously - who needs that much speed in a laptop?
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I've noticed that an increase in mac clock speed is actually noticeable, especially in comparison to pc clock speeds. I suppose it might be because our PCs today are fast enough to handle most application,s where as on macs, they are trying to find every ounce of power
It's going to be the most expensive desktop ever. :D
Seriously, even if it is more powerful than a PC, the value is still going to be the PC's advantage. I suppose that's opinion though.
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PCI-X has nearly the same bandwidth. Why put legacy crap on this? What's next? A 5 1/4 floppy?
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New G5 Power Macs "Gayist Desktop In The World" then it would be correct
So before.. when you guys made the arguement that Macs were better because of quality.. not speed.. you were just saying that because you were jealous of our clock speeds?
Interesting. Very interesting.
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There's nothing here you couldn't do in an Opteron system. With an Opteron system built from scratch, you'd have the option of replacing the processor(s) or the motherboard when newer technology became available. With Apple, there's no upgrade path short of buying a new system, which can get expensive.
Why should I pay for something that is 10%-25% faster when it costs 30% as much as a PC? I care about value over absolute top performance.
I don't care about the Mac's legendary ease of use, I'm not braindead. Windows XP is very stable for me (3d graphics in Maya, 2d in Photoshop, video editing in Combustion, games), so OS X is not matter. And I don't care about any of those iLife applications.
So why should I, a PC user, buy a dual 2GHz G5 Power Mac instead of a 3GHz P4 PC, if I care about bang for the buck?
You know, with all that cooling, and the chip running faster than expected, I'll bet Apple is overclocking these things. Why else would a company that's typically prided itself on simplicity of design come out with this case that's a cross between a Kryotech PC and a Boeing turbine?
And I'll bet that mesh front panel's gonna get all gunked up with dust and cat hair. It'll probably look like the air filter I just pulled out of my turbocharged Volkswagen. Ugh. Hope the thermisters know to shut down or slow down the chips!
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Uh, I just went to the Dell online store and configured a Precision 650 with dual 3.06 Xeons, a DVD burner, 512 MB RAM, 150 GB IDE drive, and no monitor.
Jobs figured out a while ago that you've got to make the top model competitive by throwing in a DVD burner. Rather than pricing that one, try comparing really similar models:
Apple G5 1.8ghz single CPU with 256mb ram, 80gb drive, and SuperDrive - $1,999
Dell Precision 450 with dual P4 2.4ghz, 256mb ram, 80gb drive, and 4x DVD burner - $1,932
Even if the single G5 is pretty quick, it's still not quicker than a faster clocked, dual-cpu model.
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Apple is lying, very egregiously. If you go to veritest.com and download the report, it gives these numbers:
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specint_base2000
G5: 800
P4: 889
Xeon: 836
specfp_base2000
G5: 840
P4: 693
Xeon: 646
So, the G5 is the slowest in integer but fastest by quite a bit in FP. But wait: these tests were done using gcc, which nobody in the Intel world would actually use to compile code that needs to run fast. At specbench.org, I see for the P4, using Intel's compiler (hey, gcc is now Apple's compiler, right?)
specint_base2000: 1164
specfp_base2000: 1200
Admittedly, this just proves that gcc sucks, but that's all you get from Apple. Nothing has changed, Intel is still winning and Apple is still lying about it.
Will the mac fags shut the hell up now?
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I think everybody agrees that most PC cases are far more sophisticated to open than G(x)'s.
Nope.
There is no place for second CDROM
Yes, that's true. The G5 is less expandable inside than the MDD G4's were. I have an MDD G4 with a SuperDrive, a CDRW, and four hard drives in it, and I'm glad that I have those options.
Would this be something I'd consider when deciding whether to buy a G5? Definitely. Would it stop me? Not a chance in hell.
I guess Apple either hopes that people have big tables for their computer and accessories
Dude, don't be a fucking idiot. The machine isn't meant for use on a desk. It's meant for use in a 19" rack. The top and bottom handles come off and it slides right in like it was made to. Which, of course, it was.
And the intel / AMD world will eventually eclipse both of these specialty market players. (Laugh all you want but in the end the big boys, and thats not SUN, not APPLE, not any of these sliver marketers, will sell more boxes then all these REALLY good companies combined....thats how it is kids...in the end you will be able to order up a DELL for 1/3 the money that will do the job and that is what will make the BIG money....) Although i am glad to see Apple starting to play again...in the end that is all they are doing is playing....Now go worship those that have already WON the game...his name is BILL...
. I love the sound of burning women and screaming rubber....
Hmmm... the thing is, you can't get a dual processor pentium, or one with a 1GHz 64bit frontside buss, or even one with Hypertransport.
(Is AMD Shipping it on its chips yet?)
Frankly, you can't get a pentium (at any price) That is as fast as the G5, and you can't get the architecture of the G5 in a PC computer. And certainly not for less than $3K!
That said, the design doesn't lend itself well to the web or quicktimes... I think the machines probably look really cool in real life (like the iMac loooked funny on the web with that big screen, but in real life looks very elegant.)
Yeah, and you guys panned the ipod too: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23
See my other post about this.
Apple is blatantly lying about the Dell Precision 650 SPEC benchmarks. Go to SPEC's site and compare what SPEC says about the Precision 650 versus what Apple claims.
Explain whats wrong or fuck off, idiot.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
You my friend are far, far removed from reality.