Apple's G5 Speeds Challenged
An anonymous reader was the first of a seemingly infinite stream of people to submit a URL to an argument that makes the case that the G5 isn't quite what Apple wants you to think of it. The evidence? Apple's own press material. Worth a read.
...and benchmark different too!
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
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i am too stupid to round up.
Are you MORE than your SPINAL COLUMN?
OMG, you mean benchmarks are subjective? Marketing execs get a hard on the size of Georgia when they hear the term "benchmark." Let us all hope and pray AMD and Intel don't hear about this, lest we never be able to trust an ad campaign again!
He MAY have valid points but his credibility is zero.
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Ummm...this is
Are you new here?
(yeah, yeah, pot, kettle, black)
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
And what's more, when you start running programs that use more than 2GB of data
Oh, Please. We all know we'll never ever need more than 640k.
Anyone who's followed the computer industry for more than a couple minutes knows that there are lies, damned lies, and benchmarks.
Go use a machine, for tasks you'd typically perform -- that's the only benchmark that matters.
But if you must assign a number to the size of your virtual phallus, by all means, benchmark away...
Well.. you can have my 8-bit commodore 64 for free.. so the bang for the buck is infinite..
Misleading Prices
Both Apple and Dell are guilty of using misleading prices. For example, Apple gives the price of the low-end G5 as "$1999", and the high-end G5 as "$2999". In other words, they have subtracted $1 from a $3000 computer to make it seem cheaper, which is absolutely ridiculous. This demonstrates that both Apple and Dell are willing to mislead people when stating their prices.
Next crackpot, please.
Why, I remember how appalled I was when my friend had an Apple IIgs with 1 MB - 1 megabyte!!! - of RAM, a decade or so ago. What kind of hedonist needs that much? Bah.
These damn kids today, with their gigabytes and their FireWire and their "rock 'n' roll" music and the hair and the clothes...
Ummm... Put 1 gig in each of its 8 slots?
ScienceSeeker.org
I especially liked the hatemail at the end. This was my favorite:
People that go to ivory league schools that live in trailers are a very low population, lets say 1% so since there are 99% of the people living in houses then you can clearly see that people that live in trailers are stupid, when compared to they're counter parts. Or put it this way, any finite number divided by infinity results in a number so small it does not exists. So any people that live in trailers that go to ivory league school you meet in passing are just figments of your imagination. Point is if you like Macintosh use it, if you don't then well don't use it.
Heh. That sure dispels this guy's critique of Apple's benchmarks, eh?
There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.
"In other words, they have subtracted $1 from a $3000 computer to make it seem cheaper, which is absolutely ridiculous."
Those lying fucking bastards. I've never seen that before in my life. Never - I repeat - never, have I seen a product priced at anything less than a perfectly round figure. I'm so glad I read spl's soapbox. I mean, I went to the Apple store, and saw that it was $1999, and I admit it, I said "I could afford this." But thanks to the philanthropy of spl, I was forced to examine it further. If you actually sit down and do the math, $1999 is not, in fact, a thousand dollars and a little more - no, innocent consumer! $1999 is nothing less than a dollar shy of $2000!
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Well, when I go to buy, say, a new processor, and one store has it for $199 and the other has it for $200, I'm going to buy the $199 for the sole reason of being able to answer "Oh, 100-something dollars" to my wife's question of "How much did that stupid thing COST?" instead of having to say "200 dollars".
MORTAR COMBAT!
no, everyone copies with Xerox.
Schrodinger's cat is either dead or really pissed off...
...using a G5 that fell off the back of a truck and the latest computer from Dell. Borrowing Apple's technique of "tinkering" with the systems, I optimized the Dell system to it's highest level of performance. I made only a single modification to the Apple system: removing its power cord.
Interesting enough, the Dell system matched the numbers found on the SPEC website, but the G5 was unable to complete the benchmark.
I think that this test, which can be easily duplicated, shows conclusively that Apple's G5 marketing is a complete lie.
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-Lucas
Neo: Whoa, deja vu.
Trinity: What did you just say?
Neo: Nothing, I just had a little deja vu.
Trinity: What did you see?
Cypher: What happened?
Neo: Someone posted about Xerox, and then there was another post that looked just like it.
Trinity: How much like it, was it the same post?
Neo: Might have been, I'm not sure.
Morpheus: Switch, Apoc.
Neo: What is it?
Trinity: Deja vu is usually a glitch in the Slashcode. It happens when they change something.
Shamelessly stolen from an Anonymous Hero
until the Pentium 5 emerges
So are they going to call that new chip the "Pentium Pentium"?