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Trolltech Releases Qt/Mac Free Edition

Hank Scorpio writes "Trolltech previously announced the upcoming release of Qt/Mac Free Edition. Well, now it is available for download. Grab your copy now while it's hot! (I've already downloaded mine, so let the slashdotting commence!) Now you can run a Mac-native version of Konqueror alongside Safari!"

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  1. Anybody have a binary? by dhovis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anybody have a precompiled binary of Konq available for download? I'd be interested to see how it compares to Safari.

    By the way, are there any Konq users out there who could comment on the effect of Apple working on KHTML and KJS has had on their browser over the last 6 months or so? Has Apple contributed big improvements, or has it been more incremental?

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    1. Re:Anybody have a binary? by ickoonite · · Score: 5, Informative

      You'll need Qt/X, the KDE libraries and an X server for that.

      You are misinformed. This makes it quite clear, I think, that X11 is not needed for running KDE applications - notably Konqueror. Yes, it's quite OK to make "ooooh" noises at the eye candy.

      iqu

    2. Re:Anybody have a binary? by Otter · · Score: 3, Informative
      Huh, I guess I'm mistaken. Is that the Konqueror from the kdenox package? How far along is it?

      If that's what it is, I wouldn't say I'm _that_ wrong -- the only app in that package is a non-standard Konqueror, and there certainly are X dependencies elsewhere in KDE. But maybe this will be the catalyst to get more non-X development going.

  2. Re:Cool, now what? by dhovis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Basically, this means that any GPL (or GPL compatible) KDE app can now be compiled for MacOS X and use native widgets. When Apple decided to use KHTML and KJS to build Safari, they develped their own adapter library called kwq (pronoucned "quack") to stand in for Qt so they wouldn't have to license the commertial version of Qt.

    So now something like KOffice should be able to be recompiled into a "native" MacOS X application. No more need to run X11.

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  3. Who wants to get sued? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Trolltech is a division of Ray Noorda's Canopy Group. Another division of the Canopy group is a small Unix IP company called SCO. You might have heard of them...

    Scary huh?

    My understanding though is that Canopy has a relatively small stake in Trolltech, unlike SCO. I'd be curious to know what reason Canopy has for investing in a small software house with strong links to the open source movement. Call me suspicious, but "SCO" (Caldera) was, until a few months ago, a leading force behind a whole new Linux distribution (United Linux) and was making large quantities of sourcecode public.

    I hope really Trolltech are run by honest, decent, managers who know what they're doing.

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  4. What's the link? by AvantLegion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Trolltech develops the Qt API.

    SCO is suing IBM over the Linux kernel.

    Qt != kernel. They are in no way related.

  5. Kant wait for Konsole by smoon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Kan anyone Kompile Konsole and release the binary?

    It is _way_ better than terminal.app. Once you get used to 5-10 terminal sessions with buttons on the bottom of one window to access them all it's hard to go back.

    Does this mean that KDE in general could run on Mac? ie.: replace the 'bouncy bar' with the KDE window manager, multiple screens, etc. Or is that a window manager/X-windows thing that won't work on top of quartz?

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    1. Re:Kant wait for Konsole by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does this mean that KDE in general could run on Mac? ie.: replace the 'bouncy bar' with the KDE window manager, multiple screens, etc. Or is that a window manager/X-windows thing that won't work on top of quartz?

      I'm nearly certain you can run KDE on a Mac with fink and X11 (I am certain that you can run Gnome on a Mac this way, having done so myself). You can use KDE apps on a Mac in X11 rootless if you install KDE via fink. But I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to run Aqua apps from a KDE desktop, only from an Aqua desktop (regardless of whether or not X11 is running in rootless mode with KDE apps).

  6. Re:Amazing but true. SCO once owned Trolltech by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Trolltech is certainly still on Canopy's front page, but I read somewhere the current stake is something like 5% - obviously Trolltech are interesting to Canopy, but it's hard to know if this is merely as something that might be a legitimate source of revenue, or something to abuse if Canopy can find some way of invalidating or undermining the GPL.

    They're definitely a scary outfit, and I sincerely hope that there's nothing to be scared of as regards Trolltech.

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  7. iTerm? by feldsteins · · Score: 4, Informative

    iTerm also allows for tabbed terminal windows. Tried it once for a few minutes, so I don't know much more about it. YMMV.

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  8. Re:the other apps too... by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative

    I solved it by making symlinks in /usr/lib to libqt.3.1.2.dylib and the other dylib, instead of to linking to the links as the INSTALL file suggests. I'm hoping to get a more expert answer, though.

  9. Re:But how to build one yourself? by ickoonite · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wasted quite a few hours today trying to work out how the hell I could make it compile. There are some diffs here but I had a lot of problems applying them (not overly familiar with patch, to be frank). In the end I gave up as I was pretty much getting nowhere, but it was detecting my native Qt/Mac compile.

    Any help from anyone will be much appreciated!

    iqu