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Trolltech Releases Qt/Mac Free Edition

Posted by timothy on from the choice-is-good dept.

Hank Scorpio writes "Trolltech previously announced the upcoming release of Qt/Mac Free Edition. Well, now it is available for download. Grab your copy now while it's hot! (I've already downloaded mine, so let the slashdotting commence!) Now you can run a Mac-native version of Konqueror alongside Safari!"

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  1. Anybody have a binary? by dhovis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anybody have a precompiled binary of Konq available for download? I'd be interested to see how it compares to Safari.

    By the way, are there any Konq users out there who could comment on the effect of Apple working on KHTML and KJS has had on their browser over the last 6 months or so? Has Apple contributed big improvements, or has it been more incremental?

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    1. Re:Anybody have a binary? by ickoonite · · Score: 5, Informative

      You'll need Qt/X, the KDE libraries and an X server for that.

      You are misinformed. This makes it quite clear, I think, that X11 is not needed for running KDE applications - notably Konqueror. Yes, it's quite OK to make "ooooh" noises at the eye candy.

      iqu

    2. Re:Anybody have a binary? by Otter · · Score: 3, Informative
      Huh, I guess I'm mistaken. Is that the Konqueror from the kdenox package? How far along is it?

      If that's what it is, I wouldn't say I'm _that_ wrong -- the only app in that package is a non-standard Konqueror, and there certainly are X dependencies elsewhere in KDE. But maybe this will be the catalyst to get more non-X development going.

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  2. Re:At last! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

    "No, I should be moderated an Ogre!"

    Hey, with this topic, shouldn't anyone who's moderated 'Troll' be on topic? :)

  3. Re:At last! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now, see, this is why we need a 'Funny' for meta-moderation!

  4. Cool, now what? by saitoh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I understand that this is an intrical part of KDE and (as someone mentioned previously) Konquerer, but what else (or more specifically, where else) can I use this for? I've used windows a lot, switched the OSX, and have used BSD (but not with X) so this is new to me. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what this adds to OSX's availible software base? Thank you.

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    1. Re:Cool, now what? by dhovis · · Score: 5, Informative

      Basically, this means that any GPL (or GPL compatible) KDE app can now be compiled for MacOS X and use native widgets. When Apple decided to use KHTML and KJS to build Safari, they develped their own adapter library called kwq (pronoucned "quack") to stand in for Qt so they wouldn't have to license the commertial version of Qt.

      So now something like KOffice should be able to be recompiled into a "native" MacOS X application. No more need to run X11.

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  5. the other apps too... by chasingporsches · · Score: 2, Informative

    thank you, god, it's finally here. and, i've already got it set up. but i'm not really concerned with running Konqueror inside MacOS... i love safari. but what i am interested in running is Kate and Konsole, which are IMHO the best text editor and console combination ever. i use Kate for all my development, and currently do it on MacOS inside of the X11, which sucks, because it takes like 5 minutes for the apps to start. hopefully this will make life a lot easier!

    1. Re:the other apps too... by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative

      I solved it by making symlinks in /usr/lib to libqt.3.1.2.dylib and the other dylib, instead of to linking to the links as the INSTALL file suggests. I'm hoping to get a more expert answer, though.

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    2. Re:the other apps too... by chasingporsches · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i only got Qt/Mac setup in /usr/local/qt by following the install directions. its kinda annoying to compile though, you have to like read the PLATFORMS file for more info. they need to make it simple for people like me that don't like to RTFM. i like ./configure, make, and make install.

  6. KDevelop for OS X? by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm a soon-to-be Mac owner, and as much as I'm looking forward to giving the development tools (and, soon, Xcode) a try, what I would die to have is KDevelop for OS X.

    1. Re:KDevelop for OS X? by dhovis · · Score: 2, Informative

      KDevelop is available through Fink. You'll have to run X11 for that version, though.

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  7. Who wants to get sued? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Trolltech is a division of Ray Noorda's Canopy Group. Another division of the Canopy group is a small Unix IP company called SCO. You might have heard of them...

    Scary huh?

    My understanding though is that Canopy has a relatively small stake in Trolltech, unlike SCO. I'd be curious to know what reason Canopy has for investing in a small software house with strong links to the open source movement. Call me suspicious, but "SCO" (Caldera) was, until a few months ago, a leading force behind a whole new Linux distribution (United Linux) and was making large quantities of sourcecode public.

    I hope really Trolltech are run by honest, decent, managers who know what they're doing.

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  8. Amazing but true. SCO once owned Trolltech by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This article in forbes discusses the canopy group and mentions that they once owned troll tech. Its unclear if they still do.

    I hate to bring this up with trolltech doing such a public service. I suspect they must not fit the canopy group mold. But their technology is at such a base and hard to replace level one should be aware of who might own it.

    The canopy group by the way has already sued MS and won and another company McBride used to work for and won. they know how to use their IP... as a war club.

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  9. What's the link? by AvantLegion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Trolltech develops the Qt API.

    SCO is suing IBM over the Linux kernel.

    Qt != kernel. They are in no way related.

  10. Kant wait for Konsole by smoon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Kan anyone Kompile Konsole and release the binary?

    It is _way_ better than terminal.app. Once you get used to 5-10 terminal sessions with buttons on the bottom of one window to access them all it's hard to go back.

    Does this mean that KDE in general could run on Mac? ie.: replace the 'bouncy bar' with the KDE window manager, multiple screens, etc. Or is that a window manager/X-windows thing that won't work on top of quartz?

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    1. Re:Kant wait for Konsole by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does this mean that KDE in general could run on Mac? ie.: replace the 'bouncy bar' with the KDE window manager, multiple screens, etc. Or is that a window manager/X-windows thing that won't work on top of quartz?

      I'm nearly certain you can run KDE on a Mac with fink and X11 (I am certain that you can run Gnome on a Mac this way, having done so myself). You can use KDE apps on a Mac in X11 rootless if you install KDE via fink. But I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to run Aqua apps from a KDE desktop, only from an Aqua desktop (regardless of whether or not X11 is running in rootless mode with KDE apps).

  11. Re:Amazing but true. SCO once owned Trolltech by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Trolltech is certainly still on Canopy's front page, but I read somewhere the current stake is something like 5% - obviously Trolltech are interesting to Canopy, but it's hard to know if this is merely as something that might be a legitimate source of revenue, or something to abuse if Canopy can find some way of invalidating or undermining the GPL.

    They're definitely a scary outfit, and I sincerely hope that there's nothing to be scared of as regards Trolltech.

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  12. iTerm? by feldsteins · · Score: 4, Informative

    iTerm also allows for tabbed terminal windows. Tried it once for a few minutes, so I don't know much more about it. YMMV.

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  13. Be warned by anarkhos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Using Qt does not make your app follow the human interface guidelines, nevermind various mac conventions which aren't mentioned in the guidelines.

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  14. Re:But how to build one yourself? by ickoonite · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wasted quite a few hours today trying to work out how the hell I could make it compile. There are some diffs here but I had a lot of problems applying them (not overly familiar with patch, to be frank). In the end I gave up as I was pretty much getting nowhere, but it was detecting my native Qt/Mac compile.

    Any help from anyone will be much appreciated!

    iqu

  15. /. power! by hatrisc · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've already downloaded mine, so let the slashdotting commence!) Now you can run a Mac-native version of Konqueror alongside Safari!"

    bastard, just because you can control when slashdotting begins, doesn't mean you have to brag about it.

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