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Mozilla 1.4 Released

Phil writes "MozillaZine is reporting that Mozilla 1.4 has been released for Windows, Mac OS and Linux. The new version is pretty similar to today's Netscape 7.1, which is based on the same code, but lacks Netscape's proprietary features. More information can be found in the release notes. The release can be downloaded from mozilla.org's releases page or via FTP. From here on, mozilla.org's focus shifts to Mozilla Firebird and Mozilla Thunderbird." The official release news is now up on Mozilla's main page, so let the downloading begin.

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  1. Install caveat by John+Zebedee · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just installed the windows version: release notes don't require an uninstall of previous versions (in my case 1.3.1) but V1.4 barfed every time it started until I had rebooted and uninstalled 1.3.1. Seems fine since though

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    1. Re:Install caveat by mu_wtfo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, new versions of Mozilla should always be installed into a clean directory. Installing over top of previous versions is known to cause problems.

      From the relnotes: Note: It is recommended that you uninstall previous versions of Mozilla before installing Mozilla 1.4. This will not delete your bookmarks, history, cookies and other information which is stored in your profile directory.

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    2. Re:Install caveat by missing000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I just did an install over 1.3 on w2k and everything went very smoothly.

      The installation is aware of mozilla.exe running, and prompts that it is shutting it down.

      I didn't even have to restart.

      I'll see how well the update goes on a redhat box when I get home from work :)

  2. lacks Netscape's proprietary features by tubabeat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like mandatory pop-ups...

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    1. Re:lacks Netscape's proprietary features by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's a good point. For all of the bloat that Mozilla is accused of having, I am disheartened that they have left out the "Put yellow running dudes all over the fucking place" feature that Netscape has had for quite some time now. Does anyone know of a plugin that I can compile to be able to enjoy that functionality that I am missing?

  3. Same as RC3 by mblase · · Score: 5, Informative

    As was pointed out to me in the recent Netscape 7.1 story, Mozilla 1.4 final is the same code as Mozilla RC3. (Check the "about:" page to see the idential release date.) So if you have RC3 installed, you can safely leave it there without worrying about major changes.

  4. Got it, love it by MrZeebo · · Score: 5, Informative
    I used to be a Mozilla-only user. However, over time, it seemed that the speed of Mozilla started getting worse and worse, especially under Windows. On my dual-boot machine, I kept with Moz under Linux, but switched to Opera 7 under Windows. For the time, Opera was much quicker, not just at starting up, but seemingly at rendering web pages as well.

    When I noticed that 1.4 had been released (in the comments for the Netscape 7.1 story) I figured I'd give Mozilla another try under Windows.

    I was amazed.

    Mozilla 1.4 is noticeably faster than previous versions under Windows, and seems on-par with Opera 7. For a while, I was running Opera 7 for browsing and Thunderbird for mail... I think now I'm going back to Mozilla for both.

    Once the xft-enabled RPMs are up for Red Hat 9, I'll give it a try on that OS as well, but, as I said, speed didn't seem to be an issue there to begin with.

    Bravo, Mozilla. Firebird is certainly fast, but some people like the integration of the web/e-mail programs, and it's nice to see a speed boost for us as well.

  5. Re:hmmmm by Shenkerian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You make a fair comment, but this is Mozilla's new stable build, and the last one distributed as a monolithic application bundle. The stories about the RC's were mostly free advertising for last-minute stress testers, because this stable build has to last until they completely separate the innards into separate applications.

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  6. BitTorrent by cos(0) · · Score: 5, Informative

    Get a BitTorrent download here!

  7. Yes, it is. by MarcQuadra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mozilla is one of the 'pillars' of OSS software, along with GCC, the Linux kernel, KDE, GNOME, and Apache (I'm probably forgetting some too). It's important to hype it up and keep us informed so we can test and push the technology. If we were all still using Mozilla 1.0 there wouldn't _BE_ a 1.4 release for a LONG time.

    Slashdot is the appropriate place to make such release announcements. If you don't like them taking up space here, turn off mozilla stories in your prefs, if you want to track Mozilla closer turn on the Mozilla slashbox.

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  8. Re:Nice improvements, but.... by sremick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe when Microsoft integrates Mozilla into the OS. Most of what makes up IE loads when Windows starts, due to MS making IE the default interface to every fricken part of the OS. Double-clicking on the "e" icon simply loads the last 10% or so (prob not even that).

    You can use "Quickstart" in Mozilla or NS to enable to same behavior, but honestly I find the whole idea of an app sucking up RAM when you aren't using it to be pretty stupid. Like leaving your car running all night just so you don't have to waste the 5 seconds in the morning to start it.

    I mean, really: compare the startup time to how long you spend actually ON THE NET. Do a few seconds really matter??? Isn't it nice to close it and have it be GONE FROM MEMORY (unlike IE)?

  9. Re:hmmmm by swordgeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    "is it really news worthy every time Moz makes a release?"

    No. The announcements for RC1, RC2, and RC3 were really unnecessary.

    However, this release--1.4 final--is definitely worthy of a post. This is the official 'stable production' release (the first since 1.0, I think), and is also the final relase in the old development path. If there were only three Mozilla announcements on /. in its entire history, they would be for (1)the initial creation of the project, (2)the 1.0 milestone, and (3)the 1.4 release.

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  10. Re:wow, bug-city! by nathana · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also some weirdness in the toolbar buttons with vertical alignment. (Back & Forward buttons 'valigned' to the top, whilst Reload & Stop buttons are on the bottom). Bizarro.

    I've seen stuff like this happen when you install a new version of Mozilla on top of an old version, or you install a new version and still continue to use your old profile.

    Try wiping out your old profile after backing up your bookmarks and mail (rm -r ~/.mozilla/ or delete Mozilla under Application Data in Windows), and let Mozilla 1.4 generate a new one for you. After that, you may find that all your problems have disappeared!

    -- Nathan

  11. Re:I would like to get this, but... by delphi125 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Grandparent: We've been in the year 2000 for a while now.

    Parent: I don't know why you haven't upgraded to 2003. I did it nearly seven months ago...

    I'm not sure which is more worrying: being 2 1/2 years behind the times or almost a month ahead. Or the state of the U.S. educational system?

  12. Re:Why is Firebird that wonderful? by 73939133 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Breaking up Mozilla isn't primarily about making it smaller, it's about making it more maintainable. The way it is, bugs in the mail component may hold up release of the browser component. Separating them into separate programs means they can be released independently. Besides, many people don't want to use one or the other Mozilla component.

    Functionally, Firebird is as full-featured as the Mozilla browser, and there are more extensions and skins available for it (most of the Mozilla extensions just work).