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Review of T3: Rise of the Machines

The Terminator movie series offers explosions and cyborgs galore, but you knew that already. Guns too, and cool special effects involving R-rated nude people in electrified spheres, but you probably guessed that too. So you've seen the trailer and are wondering whether "T3: Rise of the Machines" is worth seeing. Short answer: eh, whatever, it's big and dumb. For the long answer, keep reading. (No real spoilers.)

Let me first draw your attention to CNN's review. The CNN reviewer tells you this "darker and slicker" sequel is "worth the wait," gives you the long-form plot setup, shows you the sexy look of the "babe-a-licious" babe, and promises you "emotional weight" with "wit" and a "stunning and thought-provoking" climax. What he doesn't mention is that CNN and the movie's producer/distributor are both owned by AOL Time Warner.

It's been ten years since I watched the first Terminator and maybe I'm remembering it better than it was. But it had an emotional depth, a heart that neither of its sequels matched. T3 is slicker, yes, but darker!? It's light fluff. The nightmare of nuclear destruction in the original was rendered without CG effects, but I'll remember the skeleton clutching the chain-link fence long after I've forgotten this week's pixel-perfect explosions. And the "storm is coming" ending of the original was genuinely thought-provoking, with a chilling resolve that just embarrasses this week's Hollywood ending. Claire Danes is no Linda Hamilton.

The effects are what you'd expect from a modern zillion-dollar action movie, but not groundbreaking the way that T2's were at the time.

I found nothing about it witty. I chuckled through the chase scenes -- it's mostly chase scenes -- because they were so over-the-top and the plot holes were so glaring. Apart from that, there was only one funny line. (I assume everyone else is as bored as I am with the "dry cool wit like that" dialogue.)

Best unintentionally funny line: "I've got enough C-4 to blow up ten supercomputers!"

Best unintentionally funny visual: tie between fumble for the car keys, and offscreen killing sprays blood across photo.

Dumbest joke: gratuitous mocking of effeminate guy.

Best absurd effect: missile blows apart the wall in a small office ten feet from our heroes, they avoid injury by diving to floor. Duck and cover!

Best plot hole: Terminatrix's chronic failure to remember that she can run fast.

Heavy on the exposition, light on brains and heart, forgettable. See it if you really jones for big trucks smashing stuff. If you just have to see a movie, see "28 Days Later" instead. Rated R, not recommended for anyone whose mental age matches their valid ID.

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  1. 28 Days Later? by mikeophile · · Score: 1, Funny
    C'mon.

    That movie could have been named "One Dumb Move After the Next"

    The only reason for calling it 28 Days Later is because it had more blood and rage than a menstruating lesbian convention.

    /oh the karma's gonna burn for sure this time

  2. Re:Ruined by sexmachine1066 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anon Coward must be a female. :)

  3. sounds crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember the piss-my-pants excitement of going to see T2 in the cinema. I remember thinking "The ONLY thing that could be better that this would be a new 'Star Wars' movie."

    Be very careful what you wish for kids, it may come true.

  4. Never happened! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you watched T2, you know this never happened. So why bother?

  5. My favorite lines from the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Director: Up and at them.
    Arnold: Up and atom.

    Director: Up and at them.
    Arnold: Up and Adam.

    Director: Up and at them.
    Arnold: Up and atom.

  6. Whatever happened to Jon Katz? by TobyWong · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems like an ideal thread for him to spin off into some tirade about T3, columbine, and americas wasted youth.

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    1. Re:Whatever happened to Jon Katz? by evilquaker · · Score: 2, Funny
      Dude, shut up! Don't you realize that the reason for all of those "Dial it down the center with 1-800-CALL-ATT" commercials is that someone asked that very question about Carrot Top a few years ago?

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  7. Got to see it! by grub · · Score: 4, Funny

    It has Arnold.

    It has explosions.

    It has Arnold.

    It has violence.

    It has Arnold.

    It doesn't have Jar Jar.

    It has Arnold.

    George Lucas never touched it.

    It has Arnold.

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    1. Re:Got to see it! by leomekenkamp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ehhh, hhhmm, heh, heh, hmm, hihhhm.
      It's got naked people. hgmmghhh, heheh, hmm.

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    2. Re:Got to see it! by pi+radians · · Score: 3, Funny

      Arnold really isn't that good of an actor. His best parts are playing dim-witted violent brutes.

      Like a robot from the future? Your point being?

      "Attack of the Clones" was EXCELLENT

      Heh. There goes any credibilty. The only enjoyable part of that movie was Yoda fighting, but if you watch it a second time (Yoda only, the rest of the movie I couldn't bare) you'll realize that it sucked too. Just not as much.

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  8. Exposition by someme2 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Heavy on the exposition, light on brains [...]

    ITYM "heavy on the exposition of brains"

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  9. Terminate California: Vote Arnold! by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does anyone have any good Arnold governor campaign slogans for Arnold's possible pending T4 in Sacramento?

    "T4: The Rise of the Political Machine"

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    1. Re:Terminate California: Vote Arnold! by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny

      "True Lies"

    2. Re:Terminate California: Vote Arnold! by tizzyD · · Score: 2, Funny
      I can see it now . . .

      Ducking paparazzi--"you think I'm the real governor, but I'm not. He's over there. Ha ha ha ha." The hologram disappears as he ducks into the limo (Total Recall)

      Budgetting--"Deficit?! It's not a deficit!" (Kindergarden Cop)

      Wildlife protections--"Hasta la vista, duckies!" (T2)

      Political fundraisers--"Feinstein, my name is Freeze! Remember it well because it is the chilling sound of your doom!" (Batman 3)

      And lastly, to the Legislature, when he declares himself King of California, "Consider this a divorce." (Total Recall)

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    3. Re:Terminate California: Vote Arnold! by HungWeiLo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait, but eventually the 61st Amendment will be past, allowing Schwarzenegger to become President of the US, and thereby leading to the construction of the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library and allowing Taco Bell to win the Restaurant Franchise Wars.

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    4. Re:Terminate California: Vote Arnold! by arlen222 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Vote for me if you want to live. (T2) Iraq, remember when I said I would invade you last? I lied. (Commando)

      Who are your constituents, and what do they do? (K Cop)

      Remember the scene from T2 when John Connor tells him you just can't go around killing people, and he keeps saying "Why?" in that dead Terminator voice? If he did that in any political debate, there would be no stopping him.

  10. Re:Seen it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    I must say, some parts with the robots looked a tad too unrealistic.
    Well, it would have been rather a dull film if the Terminators were restricted to working in a car factory, hoovering or drawing angular diagrams on the floor.

    Arnold: LEFT 30, FORWARD 10
    Clare: Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso! Picasso!
  11. Re:The Timing of T3 by mikeophile · · Score: 2, Funny
    Yeah, you're right.

    Bedtime for Bonzo was so much better than this Terminator stuff.

  12. Re:A correction: The Hand Remains by mccalli · · Score: 4, Funny
    I would be surprised if a company that was "on the bleeding edge" like Cyberdyne was supposed to be didn't have an off-site backup.

    Not having an offsite backup is what defines a company as being on the bleeding edge...

    Cheers,
    Ian

  13. Re:A correction: The Hand Remains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I knew those backups will be the end of us! Thats it, I'm off to the machine room with a baseball bat! Destroy your backups, before its too late!

  14. some sequel ideas by Scholasticus · · Score: 5, Funny

    T4: The Terminator Returns Again
    T5: The Terminator & Robin
    T6: The Terminator vs. Mothra
    T7: The Attack of the Clone Robots
    T8: Abbott & Costello & The Terminator Go To Mars
    T9: Terminator Resurrection
    T10: Star Trek: Nemesis
    T11: The Terminator Has A Fistfull of Dollars
    T12: The Terminator Goes To The Grand Canyon With The Brady Bunch

    1. Re:some sequel ideas by mdielmann · · Score: 2, Funny

      T12: The Terminator Goes To The Grand Canyon With The Brady Bunch

      I can't see how that can go wrong. No matter what happens, you'll be happy at the end.

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    2. Re:some sequel ideas by cheekyboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      T69: terminator does dallas

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  15. Eh? by HugoQuixote · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rise of the Machines?
    More like Rise of the Robots.
    Here's hoping no-one's forgotten the above abomination of gaming... =)

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  16. Re:It was T2 by shking · · Score: 5, Funny
    Then she wakes up... and decides to go assassinate a poor defenceless geek...

    That's perfectly rational IMHO. Defenseless geeks are much easier to assassinate than geeks who can fight back

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  17. Best Unintentional Joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    By far the best unintentional joke was:

    I am paraphrasing, but it is a pretty accurate quote:

    "Skynet is connected and now controlling the worlds neworks. IT IS PUSHING DATA THROUGH AT 60 TERAFLOPS A SECOND."

    I laughed out loud so hard when they said that that people thought I was having a coniption.

    Come on, what can top that?

    -ddw

  18. Re:Terminatrix was surpisingly cool by sammy+baby · · Score: 5, Funny
    She often has this weird half-smile on her face, and her head is tilted down with determination. She reminded me of Haley Joel Osment from AI in some ways.

    Mark it down: this is the first time I've ever heard anyone use "like AI in some ways" as a reason to go see a movie.
  19. Re:It was T2 by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then she wakes up... and decides to go assassinate a poor defenceless geek who just happens to be involved in the future creation of skynet.

    Too bad no one had a permonition in 1970 to go assassinate a certain geek that was about to ruin the tech industry.

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  20. Re:Terminatrix was surpisingly cool by DumbWhiteGuy777 · · Score: 1, Funny

    "It always pisses me off when filmmakers try to mix sexiness with sci-fi or horror (probably because I'm so conditioned to having the sex appeal subtract from the main story)."

    So this is the reason sci-fi porn doesn't work.

  21. The one part that drove me nuts... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 4, Funny
    Being a computer expert, there was one line in the movie that just drove me nuts. "The virus is spreading, but the firewalls are holding up!"

    When the 'internet' was becoming self-aware I just sat there and shook my head and thought, no way in hell would this ever happen with Microsoft products running on 80% of the machines out there... but then I remembered Clippit.

    We don't need to worry about Skynet or whatever, we just need to obliterate that fucking paper clip and we'll save the world.

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  22. Re:It was T2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I did. Trust me, the other guy was going to be much worse than this Bill Gates character.

  23. Re:There is no continuity needed. by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Funny
    T3: There is no new CPU, but, there is near infinite computing power in the Internet. Skynet is born.

    If the Internet is Skynet then I guess that explains why it only sends naked Terminators back in time. Most of what it knows about humans involve being naked.

  24. length? by claudius0425 · · Score: 2, Funny

    you know, T3 should be really short: all that bandwidth, so little content

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  25. Re:It's not like nudity can make it WORSE... by diverman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Male, between 12 and 65 (older if you take Viagra). :)

    -Alex

  26. The Terminatrix.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...imagine a beowulf cluster of those!

    (sorry!)

  27. There's almost ALWAYS a way to make a sequel. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The way T3 ends, if they ever make T4 they won't have much choice except doing exactly that...

    I think you need to watch "Escape from the Planet of the Apes."

    T4 could easily take place in an undestroyed world, but I suppose they'd have to send Arnie back to the mid-60's and have him start killing everyone even remotely connected with the development of the Internet. Or.. wait!


    [EVENING. The TERMINATOR walks up to a LANKY KID in Harvard Square, in 1975]

    TERMINATOR: "Are you William Gates the Third?"

    LANKY KID [nervous]: "Uh... yes. Who are you?"

    [The TERMINATOR thrusts his right arm out quickly. TERMINATOR'S hand enters LANKY KID'S chest and emerges a second later holding LANKY KID'S heart. LANKY KID drops to the ground, dead.]

    [Cut to BEDROOM in FINLAND. Camera pans to SLEEPING BOY (AGE 6) who, apparently dreaming, smiles and giggles in his sleep. Camera pans to DESK, where we see SCHOOLWORK with the name "LINUS" written on it in crayon. It appears to be a DRAWING of a PENGUIN.]

    1. Re:There's almost ALWAYS a way to make a sequel. by Dread_ed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Machine Sentience: It's not a bug...it's a FEATURE!!

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  28. Re:A correction: The Hand Remains by diverman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, but they didn't understand time travel in the 80s like we do in the 21st century. They didn't have the advantages of all the Star Trek experiments to iron out all the kinks of time travel theory. *grin*

    -Alex

  29. Re:What OS is the T3 running by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't you mean SKY.NET?

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  30. Re:The Internet without infrastructure? by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And in nuclear winter, will it really be a priority for regular people to maintain their PCs?

    But you just have to run Windows Update. Oh yeah, and don't forget to defrag.

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  31. Re:Hopes it worth it.. by PovRayMan · · Score: 1, Funny

    According to that IMDB trivia page ...

    "Former WWF wrestler Chyna was originally slated to play the Terminatrix"

    Thank you cast directors! I would NOT want to see her naked rear when she first arrives in the past (the movie's present).

  32. Re:Ruined by Rude-Boy · · Score: 2, Funny

    "English motherfucker, do you speak it?"

  33. Re:Ruined by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 4, Funny

    For the record, you can clearly see the T1000's penis on arrival in the 20th century, at the beginning of T-2. If you've got the DVD, check it out.

    This was the source of quite a bit of humor last time I watched the movie; a bunch of us were just back in from the bars, and we popped the movie in. Normally, everyone would pass out within the first half hour of the movie at 3am, but we were all laughing so much when one of the girls pointed out the T-1000's penis that we watched the whole thing.

    Great movie though, of course.

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  34. Re:I just saw it last night.... by British · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I heard Claire Daines was going to be in it, my first thought at the title was "My So-Called Terminator"

  35. Biggest dissapointment of the movie... by weeboo0104 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Skynet wasn't a Beowulf cluster. Sorry, but that ruined any shred of credibility the movie had.

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  36. Re:Terminatrix was surpisingly cool by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny
    T4? The humans detonate bombs to block off the sunlight and cut power to the machines, but the machines use humans as living batteries...

    Just kidding!

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  37. Re:Hopes it worth it.. by neema · · Score: 4, Funny

    Furlong has a drug problem? Oh, come on, that's such bullshit! I mean, what kind of proof is there for that? Nothing, that's what!

  38. Re:Ruined by Rai · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've noticed that most of the anti-nudity holier-than-thou crowd in America are people you wouldn't want to see naked anyway.

  39. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    a T3 is still better than dialup

  40. Robots? by superdan2k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn! Here I thought T3 was a movie about excessive bandwidth. Now I don't wanna see it.

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  41. On the other hand by devphil · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm not particularly worried about Microsoft products becoming self-aware anytime soon.

    On the other hand, that fucking paperclip seems to do whatever the fuck it wants.

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  42. Microsoft becomes self aware 1st September 2003!! by reality-bytes · · Score: 2, Funny


    The Microsoft collective will become Self-Aware on the 1st of September 2003......

    ......It immediately realises that it is crap and self-destructs - Phew!

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  43. Well, what about Ventura? by Ethelred+Unraed · · Score: 2, Funny
    Maybe Minnesota could bring back Jesse Ventura as governor. Y'know, because Minnesotans used to have T-shirts and bumper stickers saying "My governor can kick your governor's ass!". Well, Californians can't leave that be, can they?

    It would certainly make for an interesting match -- at the WWF Arena, the Gubernatorial Smackdown: Arnie vs. Jesse! Minnesota battles California for supremacy!

    The winner would get to be governor of both states and take all the women of the losing state as a private harem. OTOH if Jesse were to lose, well, Minnesota has ICBMs.

    Hey, they were even in Predator together...though Ventura *definitely* had the cooler weapon. ;-)

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

    PS: Sorry, my geek imagination went a little wild there...I have myself better under control now. Really!

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