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Linus Torvalds about SCO, IP, MS and Transmeta
strmcrw writes " San Jose Mercury News has an interview with Linus. He talks about about SCO vs IBM and gives his opinion on Microsoft. He also shed light on his decision to leave chip maker Transmeta for a Linux corporate software consortium, the Open Source Development Lab."
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Why should I care what some occasional contributor to the kernel source thinks about this. Granted I'm sure he has some insights, but there are more important people whose opinion's I'd rather hear.
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
Hey gang, Alan Cox here again.
.002++d11, its networking scheme blasts Linux's out of the toilet.
I wanted to let everyone know that I am discontinuing my work on the Linux TCP/IP stack. After admitting to myself that it sux, I felt I was disservicing the community with my niggardly code.
I recommend using FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, or even Darwin, which now compiles and runs under x86. The BSD family of OSes all have much better TCP/IP performance than Linux. Solaris is offered by Sun for cost of media for non-commercial uses, as is SCO's OpenServer and Compaq's Tru64 UNIX (formerly Digital Unix, descended from OSF). I'm not sure if these other Unices (Unixes? Unixen?) have better networking performance than Linux, but it'd be hard to imagine that they don't, e.g., I had nothing to do with creating them.
As much as it pains me to say this, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 are great network OSes, with a built-in GUI no less. And as bad as the GUI is in WinXP and Win2003, it's a Hell of a lot better than the crusty, poorly-written crap like GNOME and KDE and the window managers avaiable for them.
In fact, I think even the HURD is a better solution than Linux at this point. Even though it's only released at version
I have to go now, as heavy as my heart is, as it's time for my monthly bath. I hope no one is uber-upset by this news; they shouldn't be, as this is a step forward for Linux. Perhaps without my substandard, slavish attempts at being L33T and defecating code, the kernel and its networking performance will benefit from a real programmer and not a DGH (Dirty GNU Hippy) like me.
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1. Not before hell freezes over it wont..
2. ?!
3. Hard to use if you are a complete idiot maybe..
4. Over a year and a half uptime on a HEAVILY used P100 system proves stability for me..
5. But then it isn't costing you...
6. I'll give you that one.
7. I still use 'CMD' in Windows, as much as I use the shell in Linux.
8. Windows doesn't run Linux programs. Point?
9. Dell sell systems with it preloaded...
10. Some Linux companies are doing great.. Red Hat for example.
11. Possibly yes...
12. Its free... so, I don't think so.
13. Lots of choice.
14. Who gives a rats ass.
15. Again, thats a GoodThing(tm)
16. Again.. if Microsoft set a glowing example then Linux would be put to shame. But they dont.
17. Whereas Microsoft just write buggy code anyway, so...
18. Tried it, didn't like it..
19. Bothered.
20. You suck!
Linus: M$ is teh suck, SCO is teh suck.
Recently, I've been thinking a lot about where Linux development should head after 2.6 is out. Specifically, I've been thinking about how we ought to make some cultural changes as well as technical changes. Now I'm not entirely sure what directions we should head in as we move towards 3.0, but I'd like to point out a few areas that need to be addressed as well as propose some possible solutions. Nothing is set in stone yet, but these are definitely issues we need to work on.
First off, I don't like a lot of the elitism that does on among Linux hackers. Just because you can tell what the following script does without executing it, doesn't mean that you're some kind of god.
Learning to hack Un*x is an impressive accomplishment, but it's closer kin to solving a Rubik's cube than scaling Everest. If you think using Un*x makes you some kind of super genius who should be feared by mere mortals and end users, either get over it or start using *BSD. *BSD users (and developers) are all complete jackasses, so you'll fit right in.
Secondly, I'd like to address the issue of cleanliness. Quite frankly, the standards of personal hygiene practiced by many members of this community are simply unacceptable. As you all know, I am a fairly clean cut, well-kempt person (I know, I have a bit of a gut, but compared to Maddog, Nick Petreley or ESR, I'm a modern Adonis.), and in the Linux community that is something of an anomaly. Virtually all users of Linux (and all other forms of Un*x) are unkempt, longhaired, beast-bearded dirty GNU hippies, and I am sick and tired of having to deal with them.
The person I have the greatest problem with is that (in)famous communist RMS. Now, RMS may have been responsible for GNU, the GPL, GCC and many other contributions to the computing community, but his stance, as well as stench, displayed in his essays and actions, nauseates me. I mean, with that filth-ridden beard of his, where does he have room to demand that people refer to Linux as GNU/Linux? When he is as clean-shaven as I, he may claim that right, but until then, he should go back to playing his little flute and dropping acid like there's no tomorrow. Honestly, if he doesn't shut his mouth and go back to reading Marx, I'm going to shut it for him. I am sorry to sound so harsh, but a little hygiene every once in a while is a Good Thing(TM). Makes me wish I'd gone with a closed source license back in the day.
Next in line of dirty scuzz-balls I have to deal with, and probably the worst thorn in my side, is Alan Cox, the primary coder of my kernel's TCP/IP stack (ha, what a joke!) and all around dirty GNU hippy. Alan views toothpaste the same way a vampire views garlic. The man's wife (who I spent a few years with at the University of Helsinki) often calls me crying in the middle of the night to complain of the rank, unbearable stench the man exudes after sex. On several occasions at trade shows, exhibitions and beer bashes, I have nearly fainted from the torrent of rotten odor that pours from every inch of his toxic person. Along with the typical GNU hygiene (mis)habits he practices, he also bitches and whines about... well, everything. He lies a lot too; evidence for this can be seen in the fact he almost always wears cheap black sunglasses when talking to people he knows are better than him (such as myself).
And then we come to ESR. I won't reiterate the sewer-dweller like cleansing habits he practices as well, but I would like to focus on his general lifestyle. I like to refer to ESR as AGB or "Arrogant Gas Baron." The man's flatulence is legendary. I honestly believe that given a meal of refried beans and a match, he could reach low earth orbit. If you have to meet with ESR for any reason, arrange for the meeting to be outdoors and try to stay upwind. And his flatulenc
I See You Have Been Modded Down, it must have been because you used the word "niggardly". It is a perfectly legitimate word, and I'll be damned if those niggabyte moderators ruin it for us all!
Linus Torvalds is not circumcised. This is TOTALLY gross. We need to start a fund to help pay for his circumcision. If we have any funds left over we can have Alan "uncircumcised" cox snipped too.
I can't imagine how a woman could even marry Linus, with his GROSS uncircumcised penis. I bet they don't have sex, and his wife is probably grossed out by his skanky aardvark cock. So lets start a paypal account and maybe Stallman could be linus' mohel.
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RMS used to live on the 7th floor of LCS. That's where he used to have his office before he resigned in protest over the commercialization of something or another. But they let him keep his office, and he lives there, because he refuses to have an apartment. (Given the rent rates in Cambridge, the assholeness of most landlords, I don't blame him. Rather than live in my office, I chose to move to Texas, and the change in rent rates and lack of state income tax resulted in an immediate %25 pay raise. RMS doesn't have that option because we have the death penalty for people like him down here.)
Anyway, RMS has or had a number or geek chick groupies. I wouldn't call any of the ones I've seen "hot", really -- well except for this one little psycho jewish undergrad from NYC. He would sleep with them on the sofa in his office. That's why he got kicked out off floor 7, and down to the 3 floor, is that the cleaning staff complained about pulling used condoms out from behind the sofas. No joke. You can use this information for trolling if you wish, but it's all true.
RMS has a phobia of water that prevents him from showering. This is part of this post I know from first hand experience, because I myself have observed him taking a sponge bath in the 3d floor mens room in LCS. Apparently once he had a girlfriend who he was totally in love with, and she convinced him to take one shower a week. It was a traumatic experience for him each time.
RMS also has a phobia of spider plants. When RMS starts bothering a grad student and going to his office and talking to him constantly and getting him to spend all his time writing free software, the grad student will complain to someone on the floor, and they'll let them in on the secrete -- get a spider plant in your office. The next time RMS drops by, his eyes will bulge a little and he'll say " Umm. . . I wanted to talk to you about hacking some elisp code . . . why don't you stop by my office sometime ?" and make a hasty exit.
One of his more nasty habits is picking huge flakes of dandruff out of his hair while talking to you. At least he doesn't eat them, like some people I know.
Now, I know everyone loves to make fun of RMS, and I'm feeding that a bit here, so I'd just like to say that I think he really is a genius, on the order of Socrates (another filthy slob who couldn't keep a normal living arrangement, and lived in a barrel) or Ghandi or Ezekiel. Everything he has ever said to me, while sounding naive and idealistic and stupid at the time, turned out to later be correct.
The only thing I fear in his philosophy is his interest in reducing population growth. Everyone else I know of who was obsessed with that "problem" turned out to have facist or totolitarian tendencies, and I think that the problem will solve itself as more and more of the world moves into a middle class type existence.
But on everything else, bitter experiences have taught me he is right. I will not use any non-GPLd or lGPLd software, and I look forward to being able to buy only "open" hardware. I would like to see software patents completely eliminated, and with the development of digitial communication, I see no reason why shouldn't simply repeal all of Title 17 and do away with all copyrights. They just aren't needed. I expect to spend much of my life being paid to write software, and I just don't see copyrights has helping me in anyway.
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waste those mod points people! the more you mod me down, the more crap I post
Q: Do you like anal sex from other kernel developers?
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Hah. Very nice.
Oh, my god you're boring. Same 20 reasons again???
Why not use M$Winblowze?
1.Getting anything to work properly can be called miracle
2.Looks ughly and inconsistent
3.You're part of users community
I've heard some fools even pay for M$Winblowze
14.???Who cares about Americans, they're fuckups anyway
You're a fucking retard. You are to immeditately remove your genitals with a pair of garden shears, lest your diseased and utterly sub-par genetic material create an offspring during your daily sexual encounters with your cerebral palsy-stricken sister.
Wassup with the "I hate genetic diversity" comment?
Got a problem with that, NIGGER??
This isn't a troll.
LIES LIES LIES and MORE LIES
This is why:
"Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux (an operating system kernel, which is the underlying interface to hardware devices and other system resources and not a complete package of applications/tools etc. that may or may not be GNU and copyrighted by the FSF) ...."
Obviously a trollish statement. If you were a real person, and not a LIAR, you might have said:
Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel
And that would be the end of it. -operating system +kernel
What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you think that saying "kernel" in this article means someone has to define the word "kernel", but saying "operating system" does not require definition?
Fuck off, Troll.
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This line of propaganda was expected. This is the entire goal, to break the collective thoughts of disparate programmers around the world. They want to *blame* Linux, to belittle Linux, so that the megacorps can control.
AND IF ALL YOU ASSHOLES WEREN'T SO GODAWFULLY CALLING THE OS LINUX THEN MAYBE GNU COULD TAKE SOME OF THIS BURDEN AS WELL.
Instead, since you have all insisted that Linus take COMPLETE credit for the so-called "Linux Operating System", NOWHERE do you see GNU getting discredited as a result of SCO. SCO's shit isn't hitting GNU and the FSF, it's only landing on the penguin's plate.
I hope you're all happy.
One more thing, LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES and MORE LIES
Ok, I think I'm done ranting and raving like al unatice, but I'm not promising anything. :)
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That would only make sense if Linux itself is being undermined by something or someone... which is... what exactly?
How about this stupid argument about whether or not the operating system should be called Linux or GNU/Linux? How about all the shit SCO is talking about Linus personally stealing code from UnixWare while he was working for IBM? It's obviously all LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES.
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