Posted by
ryuzaki0
on from the where-do-we-go-from-here dept.
Ashcrow writes "EWeek has posted an article on Microsoft's .NET initiative. It's been three years since we were first introduced to .NET and virtually none of the promised advantages have come true. Is it time for Microsoft to move on?"
Re:.Net was never clearly defined
by
OneEyedApe
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· Score: 2, Offtopic
Actually, I think C is a language that will compile and run on damn near every platform. Yes, given the appropriate runtime environment, Java will run on an amazing number of platforms, but C fits into far more strange platforms.
-- Life sucks, but death doesn't put out at all.... --Thomas J. Kopp
Re:If Sun didn't invent Java would .NET exist?
by
wukie
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· Score: 0, Offtopic
Open Source: Apache, PHP
I didn't mention Open Source, and I'm not sure what your implying. Without FreeBSD and Linux, we would be stuck with Microsoft and the orginal Mac OS, so you could say Open Source helps push proprietory software along...just look at Mac OSX
Compared to MS Windows, Open Source provides: STABILITY, SECURITY
Open Source does not need to innovate, although it does in virtually every field. Even if Open Source did not innovate, we have lots of great products, we just need to get the bugs out!
I think this depends entirely on the coder. I have used lots of Apache/PHP and lots of IIS ASP/ASP.NET and there are pros and cons to both. Obviously Apache/PHP, being free, is very cost effective but they fall somewhat short on some of the advanced features businesses need for enterprise apps. The tools in PHP for seperating code from content are pretty immature. Also, if they they change the xml dom functions one more time Im going to screem. (and they are in version 5) This is unacceptable. As far as IIS goes... it's alot easier to administer a web server from a gui if you're not an expert which 99% takes care of 99% of the people administering web servers. It's just easier to use a gui - not faster but certainly easier. Please don't come back with, "well if you're not an expert you shouldn't touch it yadda yadda." That said... IIS has to runs on Windows which is a train wreck for a server. Don't get me started on security either. Apache on Linux/Unix is leaner and meaner and certainly more secure. That said, Windows 2003 server goes a long way to fixing many of those issues even if it feels a little thick.
Moral of the story - there are pros and cons to both..NET is actually really nice to program in and I like using C# alot (and I've used them all). It's not revolutionary or anything - it's java for windows basically. So... easy with the broad paint brush strokes, killer. PHP lacks some features that enterprises need... and the ones that are there aren't very well documented or change constantly which is a no no.
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Actually, I think C is a language that will compile and run on damn near every platform. Yes, given the appropriate runtime environment, Java will run on an amazing number of platforms, but C fits into far more strange platforms.
Life sucks, but death doesn't put out at all....
--Thomas J. Kopp
Open Source: Apache, PHP
I didn't mention Open Source, and I'm not sure what your implying. Without FreeBSD and Linux, we would be stuck with Microsoft and the orginal Mac OS, so you could say Open Source helps push proprietory software along...just look at Mac OSX
Compared to MS Windows, Open Source provides: STABILITY, SECURITY
Open Source does not need to innovate, although it does in virtually every field. Even if Open Source did not innovate, we have lots of great products, we just need to get the bugs out!
I think this depends entirely on the coder. I have used lots of Apache/PHP and lots of IIS ASP/ASP.NET and there are pros and cons to both. Obviously Apache/PHP, being free, is very cost effective but they fall somewhat short on some of the advanced features businesses need for enterprise apps. The tools in PHP for seperating code from content are pretty immature. Also, if they they change the xml dom functions one more time Im going to screem. (and they are in version 5) This is unacceptable. As far as IIS goes... it's alot easier to administer a web server from a gui if you're not an expert which 99% takes care of 99% of the people administering web servers. It's just easier to use a gui - not faster but certainly easier. Please don't come back with, "well if you're not an expert you shouldn't touch it yadda yadda." That said... IIS has to runs on Windows which is a train wreck for a server. Don't get me started on security either. Apache on Linux/Unix is leaner and meaner and certainly more secure. That said, Windows 2003 server goes a long way to fixing many of those issues even if it feels a little thick.
.NET is actually really nice to program in and I like using C# alot (and I've used them all). It's not revolutionary or anything - it's java for windows basically. So... easy with the broad paint brush strokes, killer. PHP lacks some features that enterprises need... and the ones that are there aren't very well documented or change constantly which is a no no.
Moral of the story - there are pros and cons to both.
Just my $0.02
Have a Happy.