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NASA Mars Rover Opportunity Lifts Off

Joost Schuur writes "At 11:18 PM EDT on Monday, Opportunity, the second of 2 NASA Mars Exploration Rovers took off aboard a Boeing Delta 2 Heavy rocket after several delays and begun its 305 million mile trip to the Red Planet, where it will join its sister vehicle Spirit, which launched June 10th. Spirit and Opportunity will land on opposite sides of Mars, travelling up to 40 meters a day, and use a series of instruments to search for water, including the Rock Abrasion Tool, which will grind into rocks to give scientists a peak inside. Things are going to get crowded next January in orbit, as both NASA missions join the European Mars Express mission also launched this month and the Japanese Nozomi probe, which would finally complete its troublesome 5 year journey. Those stuck on Earth can take advantage of the closest Mars opposition in 60,000 years and watch with a telescope, or follow the images provided by the International MarsWatch 2003 group."

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  1. Poor martians by kinnell · · Score: 4, Funny

    With all these alien robots landing and wandering around probing things, they'll think it's an invasion.

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    1. Re:Poor martians by Surak · · Score: 3, Funny

      It isn't? Oh, right...it's a "preemptive strike". Sorry, Mr. Bush.

    2. Re:Poor martians by leshert · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a recent appearance, the Martian information minister released the following statement:

      "There are no infidel alien robots on Mars! Never! We have already destroyed one of their stupid vehicles, and we have another one surrounded on all sides! Let the Earthlings bask in their own illusion! They have not landed, and those that have landed, we will welcome with bullets and shoes!"

    3. Re:Poor martians by falzer · · Score: 2, Funny

      These robots make me very angry, very angry indeed.

  2. WebCast on Mars Exploration by C0deJunkie · · Score: 5, Informative

    On the 7th of August there will we a Webcast on "Mars Exploration".

  3. Terrorist metric system will crush NASA mission ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hehehe.

  4. Probe Names by dcw3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, we've got Red Rover, I suppose we'll be sending Goofy to Pluto, and Lincoln to Mercury, Chevy to Saturn, and I'm afraid to ask what kind of probe well be using on Uranus.

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    1. Re:Probe Names by Stephen+Maturin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Charmin?

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  5. Best /. article I've seen in a while! by LeoDV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So many links from so many different sources, and so thorough, congrats to the poster!

    1. Re:Best /. article I've seen in a while! by squaretorus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You could almost beleive he had some actual knowledge of the subject - rather than just having stumbled about an article on BBC news that mentions linux or gamers or how all geeks are gay that he hadn't seen posted on /.

  6. Just imagine the surprise... by scsirob · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... if one of those rocks they drill in turns around, screems "OOUUCH!!" and hits back...

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    1. Re:Just imagine the surprise... by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... if one of those rocks they drill in turns around, screems "OOUUCH!!" and hits back...

      ...or burns "No Kill I" into a nearby rock...

      ...or challenges Kirk, Spock, President Lincoln, and the Vulcan god-like dude to fight a bunch of outlaws.

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  7. good to see nasa doing some serious science by PhysicsExpert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its good to see NASA responding well with some serious missions after the Atlantis disaster. After all the cutbacks during the Clinton era I really thought it might get to the point where they did nothing but put satellites into orbit.

    What would really interest me however would be if they switched their attention from Mars to Venus. Most scientists agree that life on Mars is not feasable wheras Venus, which is closer to the sun, has a far more interesting chemical makeup. Although too hot for any carbon based lifeforms to be found, many scientists have thought that in Venus's rich ammonia lakes a Silicon based life could have emerged. Although these would be very basic forms of life (not as advanced a monkeys) discovering them would mean that we could no longer view ourselves as being at the center of the universe.

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    1. Re:good to see nasa doing some serious science by dylan_- · · Score: 4, Funny
      Atlantis? What happened to Atlantis?
      Their entire civilisation was destroyed by a flood, which is pretty disasterous by any reckoning! I'm surprised you hadn't heard about it...
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    2. Re:good to see nasa doing some serious science by nshravan · · Score: 5, Informative

      I guess as the others pointed out, you were referring to Columbia and STS-107.

      Actually I am pretty sure this mission has been in the books for quite sometime. Especially since Earth and Mars are supposed to be in the closest configuration with respect to their orbits. A trip to Mars right now will take approximately 7-8 months and the two rovers(Spirit and Opportunity) should get to Mars by January.

      Also, its not just NASA which has used the current orbit position as an advantage; the European Space Agency(ESA) and the Japanese Space Agency(NASDA i think) have also launched their respective payloads to Mars.

      About Venus, I doubt if NASA will come out with a program. A whole load of factors , not the least scientific goes into allocating budget to programs. And especially right now, I would think it would be really hard for NASA to convince the govt., to fund a program to Venus. The question of selling it to the public ranks high up there among the criteria and seems tough to me.

    3. Re:good to see nasa doing some serious science by ToSeek · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mars is much more likely than Venus to have had life in the past. There are definite indications of water, past and present, and while life would be difficult on the surface, just underneath is a definite possibility.

      There is virtually zero chance of life on the surface of Venus, and it's way too hot for any kinds of lakes other than, say, lead. Ammonia, which evaporates at room temperature even on Earth, is right out. However, there is a benign zone in Venus's upper atmosphere, deep enough to avoid nasty radiation from the Sun but high enough to be temperate, that might possibly host life.

  8. Don't Disturb The Natives! by Josuah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like these rovers are going to do some "damage" to the habitat of those Martians. Is that such a good idea? Grinding into so-called "rocks". Trampling around on big wheels. All going, "Show me the water!" and "Take that, dust-particle sized life-form!" I think we're in for some heavy retaliation. Me, under the bed sounds like a good place right now.

    1. Re:Don't Disturb The Natives! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can see a little martian saying on martian tv.. "the earthlings are being defeated as we speak. their probes have been destroyed and we are taking over their planet right now." big drill go through his head.. muhahah, the probes with their massive size (compared to them) start being worshiped as gods.

  9. Additional media coverage at... by RALE007 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Astrobio.net

    planetary.org

    Discovery.com

    Some of the context is redundant, the first link is the most informative.

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  10. Please tell me..... by JaJ_D · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....they have picked between metric and/or imperial to give measurements in so they don't park the thing at high velocity into Mars.

    Remeber...... Faster, Better, Cheaper

    Please delete as applicable.

  11. And my name went with them... by Quizo69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    3,551,645 names were submitted to the NASA site for launch on the two rovers. They have a nice picture of it with explanation here:

    http://www.planetary.org/rrgtm/dvd.html

    Let's hope this doesn't /. NASA and send the rovers off course ;)

    It's strangely comforting to know that my name will be up there forever (well at least until we colonise Mars and enshrine the little discs somewhere)!

    Quizo69

  12. With apologies to HG Wells by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The chances of anything coming to Mars, are a million to one they said, but still they come."

    With the luck Nasa has had recently exploring Mars, I don't think we're going to disturb anyone there.

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  13. Here's the text in case of /. by Quizo69 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Red Rover Goes to Mars Spacecraft DVD

    A Planetary Society produced mini-DVD will fly on each Mars Exploration Rover spacecraft, mounted to the lander petals as shown here. These DVDs are designed to engage and involve the public in numerous ways. After landing on Mars the rover will capture an image of the DVD before driving away from the lander.

    Each DVD carries nearly four million Mars enthusiasts? names collected by NASA. Each DVD also includes engaging designs leading to other activities. Each DVD?s engaging design includes the ?Astrobot? LEGO mini-figure representation in the middle, magnets to collect dust, colors to study color appearance under a Martian sky, LEGO brick representations to engage kids, and secret codes around the outside to be decoded from images on Mars. Astrobots Biff Starling and Sandy Moondust (one on each DVD central oval) are LEGO minifigure representations suited up for space. Their job: tell their stories to the world through a series of entertaining online communications between themselves and the ground available via the Web.

    The DVD is made of silica glass rather than plastic so that it can withstand the high temperatures necessary to sterilize it of Earth microbes before it is sent to the Martian surface. Also, the silica glass has a much longer lifetime than typical commercial DVDs?in fact, the silica glass DVD could last more than 500 years. The DVD will remain on the lander as a time capsule for a future generation.

    The DVD assembly?s base, the simulated LEGO bricks, and the central oval are made of machined and anodized aluminum. The aluminum parts are separated from the silica glass DVD with Delrin pads. Delrin is an inflexible polymer that is very tough and heat resistant.

    The entire assembly, which weighs 69 grams, has been subjected to a battery of tests designed to simulate the extreme environmental conditions of the journey to Mars: temperature cycling from 125 to 60 degrees Celsius, exposure to vacuum, high-speed random vibration, and shocks of 4,000 times the acceleration of Earth?s gravity.

    The Planetary Society, in collaboration with the LEGO Company, provided the DVDs to NASA for the Mars Exploration Rover mission. Visionary Products, Inc. implemented the DVD mounting assembly, Plasmon OMS donated the silica glass DVDs and data etching, and the magnets were donated by the Danish magnet team who also have other magnets on the spacecraft.

  14. Better for everyone by LittleKing · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe I'm being a bit idealistic, but I think the different space programs from around the world should work together to get to Mars and do research.

    Although if you look at the ISS, that has been hampered with cost and other problems from each country. Also it could limit the research and intelligence that is gather.

    6 on way, 1/2 dozen the other

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    1. Re:Better for everyone by LooseChanj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What would be best is building infrastructure, not flags & footprints.

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    2. Re:Better for everyone by UberDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're being a bit idealistic! The best thing about having lots of different space programs is that you end up with lots of different approaches to the problem. And the best thing about that is that you maximise the potential that one of them will succeed.

      It's like egg fertilisation - why release one big sperm when you can send millions of little ones and increase the odds of one getting through!

      Having lots of space programmes is just like making love to a beautiful woman.

  15. Deep Space Network Overload? by goatbar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How is the Deep Space Network (DSN) going to handle 7 spacecraft at Mars? It was tough enough with just 2 orbiters. Anyone in the know want to comment?

    1. Re:Deep Space Network Overload? by Rxke · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is a problem, but at least they saw it coming. it's not only those craft, also a bunch of other important missions need a lot of attention, Cassini/Huygens, The cometchasers, et.c. are al nearing important phases of their mission. Last thing i read somewhere, it that they built an extra telesope (radio) in Spain (IIRC) So, it'l be a lot of juggling, and timing tings to the max but i guess they're ready for it. (well, let's hope so, Interplanetary /.ing wouldn't look too good, after al that work and money invested...

  16. Venus by Cujo · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are Venus missions under study now. The leading one is called the Venus In-Situ Explorer.

    See http://spacescience.nasa.gov/missions/concepts.htm

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  17. First transmission from probe as it leaves Earth by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 2, Funny

    wheeeeeeee!

  18. Re:Something fishy?? by Paulrothrock · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is it me or did the above post make no sense at all? Without RTG, how are we supposed to explore the outer planets, eh? Without nuclear reactors, how are we supposed to send manned missions to the surface of Mars, Europa, and Titan, eh? There's already radiation in space, a few small nuclear reactors won't hurt anybody.

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  19. Enough with the probes by Paulrothrock · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People are better than robots at exploring a planet. We need to put people on Mars. Mars Direct will get them there. All we need is the will to do it.

    And before you go arguing how it will be so expensive, bear in mind that it would only be a 7% increase in NASA's budget for the next 10 years, and that would give us 5 manned missions.

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    1. Re:Enough with the probes by sploxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > 7% increase in NASA's budget for the next 10 years
      7% increase once and that 10 years long or
      every year a 7% increase, for ten years?
      That makes a *BIG* difference. Does anyone want to let NASA's budget grow exponentially?

    2. Re:Enough with the probes by Paulrothrock · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, should have made that more clear. The 7% increase is a one-time thing, but it should probably be adjusted for inflation if necessary.

      Incidentally, this would bring NASA's budget up to the level of spending during the Apollo program, adjusted for inflation, of course.

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    3. Re:Enough with the probes by QuantumFTL · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People are better than robots at exploring a planet.

      I'm not sure how valid of a claim that is. Certainly, right now our probes aren't that great, mainly because there is little actual autonomy. However, in the near future, probes will be built to handle major decisionmaking on their own. Our best hope for exploring the most of Mars is to send thousands of small autonomous probes that will do the looking around for us. This could be done for roughly the same cost as the manned mission, without the PR risk (yes, I hate it but it's very true) that manned missions currently represent.

      I work at the Jet Propulsion Lab, and many of the robotics technologies that are currently being persued there should give us the capability to collect huge amounts of useful data on Mars in the next 20 years or so.

      Is manned flight expensive? Well not really, but the price/performance ratio isn't that great compared to what will be done in the next 20 years with robotics probles (remember economy of scale, 1000 probes isn't much more expensive to build than 1).

    4. Re:Enough with the probes by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Interesting
      > [Zubrin's Mars Direct] would only be a 7% increase in NASA's budget for the next 10 years, and that would give us 5 manned missions.

      And if Congress doesn't wanna increase NASA's budget, how about we scrap the Shuttle and ISS and use the savings to fund a permanent presence on Mars, rather than just low earth orbit?

      The Shuttle will have to be retired and replaced with a better manned launch system in 10 years anyways.

      What would you rather have by 2010? A shuttle replacement, or a permanent Mars base AND a shuttle replacement?

  20. Re:Something fishy?? by sploxx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem with RTGs is that they have to be send into space. And they contain a fair amount of highly radioactive plutonium. (Not Pu-239 with a halftime of several thousands of years, but Pu-238 with a halftime of several decades - very poisonous, and obviously more active because of it's shorter halflife)

    You don't really want to let them reenter the atmosphere and cover your city with radioactive dust. That is a problem. Maybe one can place the radioactive stuff into (nearly) unbreakable shells. Nasa et al. are already doing it, but a small risk remains.

    Earth swing-bys are another reason of concern.

    Before the launch of the Cassini mission, several groups tried to stop it - also because it had an earth-swingby on it's schedule. Fortunately, all went ok.

    The other thing are the nuclear reactors they are planning to put on deep space missions. IMHO, they are muss less dangerous. Why? Sounds silly?
    No. They have to be made critical and before that, they are far from being as radioactive as RTGs.

    I once visited a science reactor and a staff member told me that they transport the *fresh* fuel rods by hand, only wearing gloves to protect themselves from the U-235 alpha emitter/fuel.
    Of course several men at once are doing it, they are probaly very heavy :)

    The burned rods are the stuff that is so dangerous. You could not even stand by them for more than a few seconds without being killed by their radiation.

    Of course space agencies should only issue the "start the reactor"-command to a space probe if it is impossible that it gets on a collision course with earth. That would be the case if it e.g. is in orbit around saturn/jupiter.

  21. Should we be going there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think we've really seen enough evidence to suggest that Water might exist in a Measurable and Detectible (WMD) manner.
    Without such hard evidence, I don't see justification for going in there and invading like that.

  22. Another good official site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The official site for the team that made all the science instruments is here: http://athena.cornell.edu

  23. Easier than you think by Phil+Karn · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's not so hard. Each mission is on a separate frequency, so you just add extra receivers to share each ground antenna. Even the largest DSN antennas have beamwidths wide enough to take in all of Mars plus the nearby orbital space. (A 64m dish has a beamwidth of about 144 arc-seconds at X-band, while Mars as seen from Earth is currently about 20 arc-seconds in diameter.)

    Also remember that Spirit and Opportunity are going to opposite sides of the planet, so generally only one will use the DSN at a time.

    1. Re:Easier than you think by Phil+Karn · · Score: 3, Informative
      Oh, another thing helping the crunch at the DSN is the end of the Galileo mission. When the X-band high gain antenna failed to deploy, the S-band omni antenna was used to salvage the mission.

      This placed an enormous strain on the DSN's resources. The very low data rate required more tracking time to transfer a given amount of information, and multiple antennas at each site were often arrayed to increase the received signal. The end of Galileo frees these antennas for other missions.

      I visited the Canberra DSN site in September 1997. While I was there, Jupiter rose and most of the antennas at the site were pointed at it. Very impressive to see them all moving together.

    2. Re:Easier than you think by rk · · Score: 2, Informative

      And add to that that the ESA is finishing up work on their own tracking station facilities. The DSN and thier European counterparts will be busy (they always are), but they can handle the load.

      With that said, the DSN is getting up there in age and many of the antennae need upgrading and/or replacing. Hopefully, there will be budget money in the coming years to deal with this.

  24. Visualization by captaineo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You guys might want to check out my visualization of the launch. (there is also a link to a longer animation including landing and Mars operations):

    http://www.maasdigital.com/gallery.html

    /shameless plug...

  25. Check out the CGI animation of the mission! by smokin'moses · · Score: 4, Informative

    When my family and I were visiting KSC a few weeks ago, to hopefully watch this launch :-( my wife pulled me over to a video screen that was playing a really well done simulation of the launch/flight/landing that underlined the elegance of the methods used for each stage of the trip to mars. It's really nice watching the various parts fall away and new goodies deploy for each part of the trip.

    After a quick search on the web once we got home, I found lesser quality versions of the film.

    A couple are here:

    http://athena.cornell.edu/the_mission/rov_video. ht ml

    http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/video/anima ti on.html

    I think the animator's site had the best quality one, in MPEG. I think his name is Maas.

    If you like eye candy, this is sort of a factually based minds-eye type video. I think it's really good CGI, but I'm no expert.

    I'd read about the mission, and spinning the probe up for the big burn, and reeling out weights to spin down, etc, but it's not until I saw it on the screen, that the grace and elegance of all the solutions to the various problems of sending this probe to mars really hit me.

    Seeing this film makes me feel good about paying my taxes.

  26. Costs Baby... by Nazmun · · Score: 2, Informative

    It costs more to send a shuttle up in orbit then to send a probe 300 million miles away and land on an alien planet.

    The two rovers are sent for 800 million, each costing 400 million that way. Shuttles still cost 500 million per launch. This doesn't count any of that extra stuff, like repairs and maintenance that need to happen. Also the cost of building these shuttles are not in that 500 million number, often shuttle trips will cost more.

    Besides will men really be that much better at examining red rocks then a probe. Also those rovers are hardly autonomous, we control them from here.

    With that said, i'd really wish nasa was given the budget it needs, at least $30 billion. I mean although they're budget has really decreased over the years inflation has caused that $15 billion to be worth less and less every year. They really need to build some better probes, and work on IMPROVING space travel with new ships/planes/vehicles rather then using old expensive tech over and over again.

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  27. Heard on the radio this morning... by TheAmazingRando · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since it's a Delta rocket, they're going to have to stopover at the hub in Atlanta before continuing on to Mars...

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