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Apple Updates Panther Via Software Update
arobase writes "Apple releases update to Panther thru Software Update. The build number changes from 7A179 to 7A202. Updates Mail, Exposé and iChat."
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So they've updated a closed developer beta that only a few thousand people have legally, and this is news?
/. a few days ago. It isn't all that important either, but at least it serves as a good followup.
If you want to talk about closed betas of Apple's upcoming updates, at least talk about the recent one that fixes the screensaver character buffer bug that got plastered all over
"The worst tyrannies were the ones where a governance required its own logic on every embedded node." - Vernor Vinge
Are you implying that files off bittorrent aren't legal?
You know I miss the good old days of having to get under the hood when you install a new distro. I installed a recent version a month ago, and everything just worked!?!? I was like WTF is this? Clicked on the little "test sound" installer diologue and sat there in shock listening to the thing. After a few minutes of poking around checking all of my devices and successfully launching major apps I walked away in disgust. That was no fun at all! How can I feel intellectually superior about knowing how to configure packages from a dos partition after booting off a linux floppy? Mabey in a few years I'll bring out an old copy of Slackware and start evangelising it.
-- http://thegirlorthecar.com funny dating game for guys
- apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
- up2date
- emerge -u world
easier/better than clicking "Install" when the notification window comes up?> (BTW, I resent your usage of "you", since I'm merely playing devil's advocate)
If you are given to resenting being called stupid, you should learn not to play devil's advocate.
This is not a slur... I play devil's advocate all the time, and I get called stupid all the time. But then, I have a thick skin.
-fred
Sign #11 of Slashdot overdose: You see the phrase 'moderate Republican' and you wonder if that would be a +1 or a -1.
I don't have Panther you insensitive-clod.
I have the new Panther and the new update was very welcome. The changes made that I have noticed are a bit more stable (hasn't unexpectedly quit anything since, versus a couple of times before). Also, one cool feature is that in mail when you type in an email that matches someone in your Addr. Book or someone in your email list then it creates a button like image (like the new icon text with bgcolors). It makes it really simple and clean!
Panther rocks. If you don't have it, please don't be bitter. Be patient, it will come.
According to macfixit.com, the screen saver bug re. long passwords is fixed, but the other bug remains: the one which allows programs to be quit while the screen saver is on, as long as 'keyboard access' to the dock is turned on.
"He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once." - Steve Jobs on Bill Gates
Personally, I could download it, but I'll just wait until August when they release it. One of the big reasons I like Macs so much is that they just work, and installing a prerelease version of an OS while they're still tweaking it and fixing bugs means goodbye to that.
"Inflammable means flammable? What a strange country!" -Dr. Nick, The Simpsons
Yeah, that's what a lot of people just don't understand. It may be easy to type a short command in a shell window, but most end-user/average consumer types are deathly afraid of the command-line. (I'd like to blame DOS's shitty CLI for this, as bash and the C shells are nice.)
Geeks will use a CLI; Mom and Dad won't.
Mikey-San
Karma: +Eleventy billion (mostly affected by watching Celebrity Jeopardy)
It's not just that they're scared, there's a lot more to know in those three short lines.
In both instances, you must know what you're doing, every step of the way. Those three lines can be arranged in 9 distinct ways. If you type them out of order you won't get the same result. If you typo, it doesn't work. Yes, you can probably do it by rote, but you still have to be more aware of what's going on at any moment than you do when you click 'Install'.
I LIKE the command line, but I KNOW that it's not the same amount of work. Us geeks would do well to remember that.
I have never had a problem with expose or any other Apple program on my 600mhz iBook. However, the Cisco VPN software is really buggy in 10.3b and I have had 2 system crashes pre update (1 crash toasted a few files on the harddrive). I talked to the local Apple rep about 10.3, he said they are still very much in the development process and that Apple know how buggy this release is. He also said they expect it to ship by the end of the year, so being about 5 months away from ship date, you can't really expect much in the way of stability.
Has anyone found a way to manually set when the update will check? If you check manually, it sets itself forward by day/week/month according to your setting but at the current time. The problem is occasionaly I'll be surfing at an odd hour (read: 3AM Saturday), see that an update has been released, and kick off the updater. It then resets itself to check the following Saturday, 3AM. I've looked through various preference files and a couple of sites I thought might have something.
For the record, it is possible to change the time to the current time by changing the Daily/Weekly/Monthly option and changing it back. Unfortunately this resets the counter - I tried it know and even though it last checked 4 days ago it now won't check until next Sunday morning.
So if anyone has found this, or is better at looking, I'm betting I'm not the only one that would like to know. (I tried looking for files that changed today with the time I changed it, but either a) I did my search poorly or b) it's saved in a system file with other preferences that doesn't get updated immediately.) I suppose it's possible it's only saved in PRAM, but I'm not sure how to find that how - maybe someone with more Developer access could ask around.
And yes, changing the current date/time, moving the D/W/M setting, and then resetting the time would work. But that's crazy talk. I can appreciate the logic that Joe User will most likely check the first time at a time they'd normally be on, but not all of our usage schedules are that orderly. It wouldn't have hurt them to give the option of specifying it exactly, so you can check manually occasionally but not reset the automatic scheduling.
R: That voice. Where have I heard that voice before? B: In about 365 other episodes. But I don't know who it is either.
I'm part of the seeding program and I can guarantee you 1000% that neither Apple's Xcode nor Panther are available on the ADC or via the developer DVD - last one I just got was for July '03.
As I understand it, the *only* people that got copies of Panther, possibly besides corporate partners, were people that attended the WWDC. After watching the keynote at the Apple store in SOHO, I was bouncing off the walls for weeks trying to get a copy. But now, even tho it's avail as a torrent, it's like, meh, I'll wait. The need has worn off and I got work to do.