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Ximian Evolution's New Clothes
Lispy writes "Looks like everyone's favorite graphical email client, Ximian Evolution, will get a new interface with the upcoming release. I found a posting on the Evolution hackers bulletin board which leads to some mocked-up screenshots (here: calendar, tasks, mail, contacts and one of the shrunken navbar). Although this is mostly eyecandy, this could be the right time to make yourself heard. What do you think about a maturing Evolution that goes its own way and leaves the Outlook-like interface behind?"
Those new clothes might get burned pretty fast if their server keeps on getting hit by the slashdot effect; please try google's cache instead.
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seems to me that the ximian screenshots you point to are not for the mentioned beta 2, but rather current v1.x
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Looks like Entourage (The MS Apple outlook program).
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Just an FYI, If you look closely at the snapshots they are identical (almost) to the way Entourage looks (the Apple version of Outlook).
So in reality, they are not moving away from Outlook. They are just updating to keep up with it.
Mozilla.org hosts a Calendar project. It can be found here. Although still in development and a bit buggy, it includes the basic functionality. I have been using it for a couple of months now.
Currently, I think the Calendar only supports Mozilla. I am not sure what will be done (if any?) to support Firebird/Thunderbird. I hope that it will be a standalone project like the new browser and mail client.
Mozilla Mail was overall faster, easier to configure, far less bulky, and part of the browser (lighter). It's spam filtering capability is also a must - as is it's security and presentation options.
The only thing I liked about Evolution was the little configurable main page, where you could put in your favorate news-feeds or weather forecasts and what not. It also crashed harder then Outlook on a p133 with 16MB of RAM and Windows 98 First Edition.
Beyond that, I've always found that other people's code is almost always an enormous hairball that takes longer to understand than writing things myself. And just because I want to write my own email client doesn't mean I plan to actually release it to anyone....
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autocompletion works for me in evolution, has ever since 1.2 IIRC. I just had to set it up to point to the LDAP server (MS Exchange) and voila, I get auto completion of email addresses in the composer window. Actually it drops down a list of relevant choices ... and it also searches addresses I have stored locally ... this is one of the things I did not like about Kmail, if I was in the composer I had to bring up another window to lookup addresses.
When evolution supports multibyte characters - that's when it will surpass outlook. Seriously - I use Japanese and English email and as soon as I tried migrating to Evolution all my email just &#"%"#%\'"&#%\%"'&%!>('$
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I thought that was the point of package management - that you could go back and reinstall older versions and their libraries if you had to, and have it all taken care of for you. If you're running Slackware or LFS, with no .rpms or .debs, you can pretty much make up the directory structure as you go along {it's only the package managers that insist on strict hierarchies, and to be fair how else are they to have a cat in hell's chance of knowing where your files are at?}, and compile the latest versions into their own directories.
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Tools -> Filters.. -> Add
Software should be free as in speech, but if we also get some free beer, all the better.
Damn, you almost sounded intelligent until you spouted off about "DEBIAN" 9.0 - if you're going to be picky about version numbers, you should really check you're not 6 releases ahead of yourself (and that's only if you count a RC release as a full release).
Most ISPs do spam filtering. Earthlink has spam filtering services that need to be turned on, but they also do host-blocking whether you like it or not.
Try sending mail from a dynamic IP to an @earthlink.net address.
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the strongest word is still the word "free"
I think any frequent user of Outlook learned to despise the side navbar.
Any "frequent" user would know to:
1. Right Click Navbar
2. Select Hide Outlook Bar
Sometimes even Linux users need to RTFM, the one from Microsoft.
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There's also a nifty Outlook to Evolution conversion utility. It does a good job on contacts, tasks, etc, and gives pointers on how to convert email folders.
I used it to convert from Outlook to Evolution and it worked pretty well.
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One of the things holding back open source groupware is the absence of stuff that does true client/server group calendaring and scheduling. This shouldn't be the case -- the Netscape/iPlanet/SunONE calendar server has been talking WCAP for ages, and the calendar client in Netscape 4.7 spoke WCAP fluently. The protocol is well-documented. So why hasn't Ximian stepped up to the plate and implemented it?
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You can have Emacs-style keybindings in all of your GTK2 apps. Set the GConf key /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_key_theme to Emacs.
Well, since we're being nit-picky, there's no such beast as a "Pentium 866". The fastest Pentium available is 200 (yes, there's the 266 MHz, but that's a Pentium MMX).
:)
If you are going to correct people, at least be correct yourself.
Calendar
Tasks
Mail
Contacts
Shrunken Navbar
I have a friend who is having problems converting his workstation over to a *NIX machine because every browser in existance for *NIX is missing MAPI support, which he requires. I know that Ximian sells a package that emulates mapi stuff, but that doesn't cut it.
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I have a mirror / cache of the mockup screenshots. Not all of them are up there yet but I'll put them up as soon as I get them
evo2_contacts.png
evo2_calendar.png
evo2_mail.png
evo2_tasks.png
evo2_navbar_shrunk.png
I changed my sent and drafts (OS X 10.2) by highlighting the mailbox I wanted to use, going to the "Mailbox" menu, and selecting "Use Selected Mailbox for" -> the option I wanted. Interestingly enough, mail.app appears to update all its message counts during its message cycles for me too, but I don't recall doing anything to cause that. (I have new messages distributed into approx. 15 folders.) It only shows the ones in the inbox(es) in its dock biff, however.
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"Even Microsoft has come to understand this: the upcoming Outlook will be quite different."
Ya, but acording to this screenshot... It may be a even WORSE user interface.
Doesn't look any different to me. All they did was put the preview pane to the right of the folder list.
All that really looks that different is the UI theme, and that's because it's from Longhorn.
Compare these screenshots:
Office 2k3 Beta 2 with a more usable layout
Outlook 2002/XP
Not much difference, except for the theme and the handling of the left-bar, with better docking of the folder view.
Simon
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The beauty of POPfile is not that it is a spam filter. In fact, it's not a spam filter. POPfile is an email sorter/classifier. Subtle difference, but very important. You can train POPfile to sort email into "buckets" or categories of your own creation. Of course, one of those categories will be spam - it's just that catching spam isn't the *only* thing that POPfile does and that is why it's far superior than other spam filters. At work, I have about 8 different buckets set up that my email sorts into based on content. AWESOME for keeping your incoming email organized and keeping the spam all to itself.
Someday, y'all will see the light and use a text-based MUA like Mutt. Evolution is nice eye-candy, but it's possible to be so much more productive when you have a streamlined, text-based UI.
You may want to consider Sylpheed. It uses the GTK+ toolkit which is fairly cross-platform. It's meant to be fast and lightweight. It has a Windows port.
It may not be what you're looking for, but it can't hurt to take a look. And if it's just missing a few features, contributing to this project may be more feasible than starting your own.