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Cable Boxes With DVD, MP3, Networking

Bruha writes "It appears that Charter Communications cable division is in the first phase of rolling out a new home media center-style cable box. The article on CNN describes the box with a 80 Gig hard drive, dual tuners (With HDTV), DVD, and WiFi networking capability to allow music to be transferred to the unit along with pictures from your PC. Copyright protection prevents recordings from being copied to the PC, and Charter has ordered 100,000 of these boxes." We covered a preliminary announcement of this box, which uses the Linux-based Moxi software, last year.

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  1. Re:How long? by ultrapenguin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If its anything like DTCP, it might not even be broken at all. And infact, that's probably what it uses, since the units support HDTV.

  2. Tivo by grennis · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Bad news for Tivo?

    Apparently, investors aren't worried about it.

  3. Re:Finally a balance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Watch this get modded up to 5. How is this copy protection any different from normal copy protection? There's no difference? How have "we" been asking for this?

  4. Re:Finally a balance by Trigun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because they're not trying to eliminate mp3's or give you a hugely restricted POS hardware. The only thing that you can't do with it is move recordings off the box to the PC. You can still use it as a recorder and move them to some other media.

  5. LOL! by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is like exactly what I built for myself.... down to the letter, including the WiFi! It's runnign MythTV. I should have patented it!

  6. If this is anything like their digital cable... by ssstraub · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...then the competition has nothing to worry about.

    My parents have Charter digital cable and the channel guide--IMO the reason to get digital--is the worst implementation I've ever seen.

    About HALF the screen is a constant ad, you can see about an hour of time, and a total of about 8 channels at once, whereas with TimeWarner, you can see about 4 hours at once in a big full-screen guide, and about 15 channels at once. Everytime I visit, I can't help but go off about what a poor quality channel guide they have compared to TimeWarner's digital offering. Why must half the screen be used for ads instead of a nice big channel guide? It's easier to either pick up the paper, read a TV Guide, or go to tvguide.com than it is to use the one they include!

    I've written them about this and they're reply was something like: "There wasn't any more information displayed at once prior to having ads."

    Don't they even TRY what the competitors are offering? I know cable is a localized monopoly, but geez. I would never pay for that after having used TimeWarner's system.

  7. Why I'll get one by Christopher+Bibbs · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Yes, there is a risk that these types of boxes could put TiVo and other 3rd party PVR makers out of business, but there are still a few compelling reasons that will draw people such as myself.

    First, one less box sitting in the entertainment center. There is a finite amount of space for AV equipment and a limit to the number of power outlets. Remove a box without losing functionality (at least today) sign me up!

    Second, seemless integration would be made easier. There was a comic over at Penny Arcade that pretty well described the situation many AV geeks are living in. If I could remove a single device from my cabinet, it would make my wife's life easier and thus my life easier. This would be a Good Thing(tm).

    Third, there is an opportunity for new services. Perhaps my cable company is unique (Wide Open West), but they have continued to add services while maintaining or lowering costs. In my opinion they "get it" and know who and what there competition is. I feel certain that when a new use for these boxes is invented (perhaps an iTunes like player and purchasing system) they will be right there trying to offer the services. Would TiVo? Maybe the hacker community could, but that's not the same thing.

    These are just my thoughts, but I suspect that there are a good number of people who feel the same way and will speak with their wallets.

    1. Re:Why I'll get one by shatfield · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remove a box without losing functionality (at least today) sign me up!

      At least WRT Time Warner Cable's new DVR device, there is not a 1 to 1 match of functionality with a TiVo. The TiVo unit offers recordings to begin x number of minutes before and to continue y number of minutes after, so you don't miss shows that have a tendency to run long and/or early (Friends, for instance).

      There is also "TiVo suggestions", which allows you to thumbs up/down a show, and then the TiVo suggests what other shows you might like as well.

      Then there is the TiVo only content - movie trailers and behind the scenes stuff that even HBO doesn't have. Interviews, for instance.

      This stuff isn't available in the TWC DVR, but since the DVR can still be considered "good enough" (Microsoft does this same thing with their just "good enough" OS and applications suite. Look what wonderful things have happened with the software industry to get an idea of what we may be up against here).

      So in summary, is the added convenience of a single box solution worth losing functionality and content (and possibly giving up your control of the future) worth more than teaching your wife which button to push on the remote?

      --
      "To make a mistake is only human; to persist in a mistake is idiotic." Cicero
  8. HDTV support at last! by YetAnotherName · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's nice to see a consumer product support timeshifting of HDTV material. Along with a plethora of HDTV programming, this might be a nice step towards making widespread availability a reality.

    Myself, I ended up building my own, centered around the MyHD card and a RAID array with about a terabyte of available storage. Music, movies, and HDTV. Technology's wonderful!