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Dutch Experimental IPv6 MP3 Stream Relay

Remco den Besten writes "In order to promote the IPv6 protocol, some Dutch enthousiasts deploy an IPv6 MP3 stream relay server. So, do something different with your IPv6 connectivity and listen to the streams offered! See & listen (both IPv4 and IPv6)."

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  1. Let's promote IPv6... by Mopatop · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...by supplying an IPv4 stream as well, because we acknowledge it's a lot of hassle for people to use IPv6! Genius!

  2. Re:Why do we need IPv6 ? by Mopatop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because we're gonna run out of IPv4 address, and port forwarding is very annoying. IPv6 is the future, but it's just not gonna work if we leave it up to the users to do something about it.

  3. Lol ... by SuperDuG · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm sure this will be the main selling point.

    IT_GUY to Boss: "Sir I believe its time we began supporting IPv6"

    Boss: "And what are the benifits?"

    IT_GUY: "More IP's better system etc."

    Boss: "What about MP3 Streaming, does it have that?"

    IT_GUY: "Why yes it does sir."

    Boss: "Well then load it up!"

    Ahh if only pretty music and pictures were the key components of Open Source software, would make convincing implementation so much easier.

    "Look at all these benchmarks"..."ohhh pretty colors, we'll buy it!!"

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    1. Re:Lol ... by Dog+and+Pony · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "ohhh pretty colors, we'll buy it!!"

      In my experience, that is how bosses make buying descisions...

      As well as the average Joe, just today, after recommening an acquintance several Linux distros (he is looking to try it, out of interest), he asked: "What about Lindows? Look how good this looks!" and gave this link to a *really* silly flash commercial: http://images.lindows.com/closed/LindowsRock.html.

      Look and learn folks! This is apparently how you get users... sigh.

  4. Uh, but? by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will this be the first IPv6 service to be shut down by the RIAA?

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    1. Re:Uh, but? by Surak · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, the RIAA will now believe that IPv6 is a tool for pirates and file sharers and will lobby congress to have it remove, resulting in the ultimate and untimely death of the Internet due to running out of IP addresses. ;)

    2. Re:Uh, but? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wouldn't think so, since this is a Dutch effort, and not hosted in America. If I'm not mistaken, the Dutch can tell the RIAA to suck on the big one, seeing as the RIAA is an American based fascist organization. Maybe I'm mistaken though.

  5. Re:Lol ...[off topic] by Matey-O · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you hear that HDTV is an area where Pr0n _isn't_ leading the field?

    Evidently you can see too much detail. :O

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  6. First time! by AmoebafromSweden · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the furst guy to do something like this with IPv6.

    I guess he is also the first IPv6 user that will be sued by the RIAA.

  7. Thank you by omar.sahal · · Score: 4, Funny

    All the site admins need to encourage IPv6 use! a good slashdoting


    Not a troll

  8. The difference you can HEAR by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, IPv6 really made those mp3s sound better. It was almost as if I were there!

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  9. IPv666 by eskimoboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    This just in: RIAA uses the DMCA to shut down all IPv6 services, claiming they have the potential to distribute illegal MP3s.

  10. Re:I don't want to be a killjoy by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point is you can listen to it without wasting disk space. Also turns you on to new music you otherwise wouldnt know about. I dont listen to traditional radio, nor do I watch mtv -- The only way I can learn about new music is streams and word of mouth.

    Listening to a good stream has a much better flow to -- Random mp3s jump from song to song, but a good stream is setup more like a good radiostation, where songs flow together rather than jumping from an aggressive song to some slow ballad

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  11. Darn article descriptions by TrekkieGod · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although the description makes it sound otherwise, the streams are available only in IPv6. What is both in IPv4 and IPv6 is the page with the information about the stream.

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  12. Re:flac by Mopatop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah I know what FLAC is, but streamed? I mean, first you have the issue of encoding flac in realtime, but the bitrate on flac is far too high for most connections. Also the entire point of icecast and shoutcast is they scale to slow and fast connections pretty much transparently.

  13. no excuses not to use IPv6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a working M$ v6 kit now

    now.. no one has any excuse not to use it..

    Windows 2000 IPv6 Kit

    Win XP IPv6 HOW-TO

    1. Re:no excuses not to use IPv6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Q. How can I force IPv6 connections using my Web browser?

      A.The new Internet extensions DLL, Wininet.dll, enables Web browsers to access IPv6-enabled Web servers. For example, Wininet.dll is used by Microsoft Internet Explorer to make connections with a Web server to view Web pages. Internet Explorer uses IPv6 to download Web pages when the Domain Name System (DNS) query (or hosts file) for the name of the Web server in the URL returns an IPv6 address. You can then connect to names that resolve only to IPv6. To verify that the DNS query returns IPv6 addresses, try to ping the Web server domain name using the Ping6.exe tool.

      For applications other than Internet Explorer: Connect using a literal IPv6 address. URLs that use the format for literal IPv6 addresses described in RFC 2732, "Format for Literal IPv6 Addresses in URLs," are not supported by the version of Internet Explorer provided with Windows XP.

      Note: Internet Explorer cannot browse IPv6 Web sites if it is configured to use a proxy server. When Internet Explorer is configured to use a proxy server, all name resolution requests for Web sites are forwarded to the proxy server. Until the proxy server is IPv6-enabled, proxy-based requests for local or remote IPv6 Web pages are unsuccessful. For information about how to configure Internet Explorer to operate without the use of a proxy server, see Internet Explorer Help.

      when all else fails.. RTFM!!!!

  14. RIAA in IPv6? by kyoko21 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's great that they are now streaming in IPv6. I wonder when RIAA will track them down and force them to pay the royalties on the audio streams they are providing. Perhaps people will start migrating p2p applications to IPv6 so at least for the time being, RIAA will be behind the times. When RIAA catches up, just move the application to the new experimental IP stack. Welcome to the new cat-and-mouse game.

    1. Re:RIAA in IPv6? by EpsCylonB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Q. How do I install the IPv6 Protocol for Windows XP or Windows XP with Service Pack 1 (SP1)?

      A.

      To install the IPv6 Protocol for Windows XP:

      1. Log on to the computer running Windows XP with a user account that has privileges to change network configuration.
      2. Open a command prompt. From the Windows XP desktop, click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Command Prompt.
      3. At the command prompt, type:

      ipv6 install


      Wow, it was literally that easy, now what did it actually do ?

  15. Re:Why do we need IPv6 ? by khuber · · Score: 5, Funny

    v4 has a bug. Upgrade to v6. v5 was out last week but they had to take it down when they found a security problem.

  16. cure some ignorance by tomstdenis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even if I load the ipv6 module in linux and use ipv6 applications. Doesn't my ISP have to route ipv6 packets before I can even use it?

    Tom

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    1. Re:cure some ignorance by Styx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, you can do IPv6 tunneling over IPv4. See http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2001/06/01/ipv6 _tutorial.html for instance.

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    2. Re:cure some ignorance by caouchouc · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doesn't sending an IPv6 packet over a IPv4 tunnel still have the exact same flaws IPv4 has anyways?

      Not really. People tunnel IP over ethernet all the time (got broadband? You're doing it right now), and it doesn't have all of ethernet's limitations.
      IPv6 likewise retains its advantages over IPv4. It just uses v4 links as a transport mechansim much like v4 uses PPP/Ethernet/ATM/etc... Those IPv4 tunnels are just like any other link. You can route through them transparently and reach your IPv6 peers.

      I mean ultimately you are either proxying off someone who has a IPv6 gateway or you are just wasting bandwidth over IPv4.

      No need for a dedicated proxy; you just need to know who your peers are so you can fire packets down tunnels to them. Routing, not proxying.
      That said, getting rid of the tunnels and using IPv6 directly would be much cleaner and reduce overhead.

    3. Re:cure some ignorance by duckstab · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hurricane Electric offers IPv6 tunnels, and will allocate you a /64 block of addresses. The application forms and some excellent tutorial materials can be found at http://ipv6.he.net/

  17. Re:flac by Fweeky · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Yeah I know what FLAC is, but streamed? I mean, first you have the issue of encoding flac in realtime,

    Erm, FLAC is rather fast at encoding, provided you stick to the more sane settings and avoid --super-secret-totally-impractical-compression-lev el (yes, that is a real setting).
    but the bitrate on flac is far too high for most connections.

    It's fine for LAN situations; fileserver under stairs, player under TV, stream over network. The sort of people who would do something like this are precisely the sort of user who would appreciate lossless compression.
  18. Sigh... by sweet+'n+sour · · Score: 4, Informative

    Good... Maybe someone else will have better luck convincing Nullsoft that ipv6 actually IS desired:

    http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=3b5228a9 5119a267d91817195a9ad715&threadid=125475&highlight =ipv6

    Btw, same goes for ipv6 support in Mozilla for windows... the *nix versions have had ipv6 support for a while now, right?
    Are there any other ipv6 alternatives for windows? IE and Windows Media Player both have ipv6 support for win2k sp3 and up as well as XP, but I'd rather not use those if possible.

  19. Re:Heh by CoolVibe · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Yep, and to top it off, I hacked the xmms port to compile with ipv6 support. I just diffed the contents of the xmms tarball there with the original, made a patch, and submitted it to FreeBSD gnats here.

    Oh, you just want the ipv6 patch I made from it? Go ahead, take it. Just go to your xmms 1.2.7 source root and do a patch -p0, oh well, y'all know the drill.

    Have fun listening :)

  20. How about multicast? by -tji · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you're going to push for a major networking change with streaming media, go for multicast instead. It has a huge direct benefit for streaming media.. The stream source would only need bandwidth for one stream, not one stream multiplied by the number of listeners.

  21. heh, promotion, yeah. Good one. by fuali · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It really cracks me up that this is a site to promote stuff. With its lack of design, poor English (yes I know they are Dutch), and tech talk, it is only preaching to the choir.

    The problem with IPv6, and for that matter just about any open-source project, is not that it lacks the marketing budget, it's that it's promoted by pale faced geeks that don't know or care about the rest of the world thinks.

    Well without the "outside world's" approval nothing will happen. IPv6 is dead in the water unless one of the following to things happens.

    1) The transition from IPv4 to IPv6 is completely transparent. If a user has any compatibility problems or has to type anything into a command line forget it. If you have to rely on the public to actually learn something and do it, game over.

    2) Every manufacturer of software and hardware will have to plan the obsolescence of IPv4. Like they are trying to do with HDTV, What they did with Vinyl LP's and Eight Tracks. This will take years, and when they finally have it, it too will be obsolete.

  22. IPv6 streaming - simple by riflemann · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've also hacked my own copy of icecast2 to accept connections over IPv6, and now listen to TripleJ and various other Sydney-based radio stations regularly online.

    Just playing my part to support the adoption of IPv6..

    My IPv6 Ogg Vorbis stream keeps me sane!

    Or for those without AAAA DNS working:

    http://[2001:618:400::cb12:26db]:8000/live.ogg

    Slashcode doesnt support IPv6 html links it seems :(