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Will Munich's Linux Desktops Be Running Windows?

An anonymous reader writes "Remember that story about the city of Munich choosing Linux to power 14,000 desktop computers? One aspect of this story that most people don't know about is that up to 80 percent of those Linux desktops will be equipped with VMWare, a virtual machine emulator, under which they will run Windows and Windows applications. That's right, folks: The majority of those 'Linux desktops' will be used to run ... Windows." This Gartner report from early June seems to be the one mentioned in the article, though I'm not sure exactly where Thurrott gets the 80% figure.

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  1. What we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...is to buy out vmware like we did with blender. Then, we can hopefully get OEMs to start including windows UNDER Linux for increased features and stability. In addition, when Windows crashes, more options can be granted. If we can get Linux as the base for Windows, then people may start developing programs directly for Linux that bypass Windows altogether.

  2. Double Betrayal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe inside VMWare'd Windows they can run a Mac emulator, too.

  3. article makes my head hurt by bersl2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Must... not... give in... to... M$ propaganda...

    ...owwww...

    [gurgle]

    /me is dead.

  4. Re:Not smart. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    There's always OpenOffice.org, instead of MS Office....


    Just like you can always stick a wooden box with the word "OPEN MAZDA" written on it inside your car in case you don't want to pay money for a real engine.
  5. Not a bit by flyneye · · Score: 4, Funny

    think of it as having a terrarium.
    like in your own environment you have a model of a smaller environment for amusement and to archive
    lesser lifeforms for sentimental reasons.
    I'll keep mine alongside my giant carboy with an actual example of a wild billgates.I may actually replace him with it tho cause he kinda smells and sits around touching himself like a gibbon.

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  6. Re:The usuual crap from Gartner.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Look at the name of Thurrott's site. Look at the rest of the pro-MS crap he writes

    Look at the slashboi banging his head against the keyboard and screaming "it can't be!!! it's not true!!!1! it's all FUD from M$!!!"

  7. Re:Not at all by mschoolbus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I don't think you want your kazaa shared directory moved onto public rdesktop servers...

  8. 12 Step program.... by MrCreosote · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is just the equivalent to 'checking into Betty Ford' for those users still addicted to MS Cocai^H^H^H^H^HOffice etc. No need to force them to go cold turkey.

    Once they are straight, they can go off the VMWare medication.

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  9. Advantage of using VMWare by Escalus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you guys missed the obvious advantage of using VMWare to run Windows - you can reboot Windows faster in the case of the a BSOD :)

  10. Re:Betrayal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear Delphix:

    My firm represents Microsoft Corporation. In your recent Slash Dot post #6487900 you made the following comment:

    In reality [computers are] just tools to help us accomplish an end. Whether it be saving the world, or getting that file off my digital camera and sending it to Aunt Sally.

    I would like to draw your attention to the following phrase(s): "saving the world". Please note that this activity is a "Restricted Activity" and therefore is NOT permitted under your Microsoft End-User License Agreement. Additionally, I would like to make sure you are aware of the following section:

    ...making written, oral, or other references to a Restricted Activity, or encouraging any other individual to do the same, whether or not they are Licensed to use the Product, will result in immediate termination of this License. Legal action may be taken unless Licensee upgrades to a Microsoft Software Assurance Dangerous Activities License Class S with thirty (30) days.

    Because of the Survivability clause in section 19, and the Predictability clause of Section 3, you agree to these terms even if you no longer own or use Microsoft products, or if you never have used Microsoft products.

    Yours,

    LawyerDrone

  11. Re:Betrayal by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 5, Funny

    If running Windows on Linux lets them do whatever they need to do, then who are we to criticize them?

    We are Slashdot. You must be new here. :)

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  12. Re:Wininformant? by rsheridan6 · · Score: 4, Funny
    A quote from the article linked by the parent:
    Furthermore, the Aberdeen Group reports that more than 50 percent of all security advisories that CERT issued in the first 10 months of 2002 were for Linux and other open-source software solutions. The report muddles the argument that proprietary software such as Windows is inherently less secure than open solutions. And here's another blow to the status quo: Proprietary UNIX solutions were responsible for just as many security advisories as Linux in the same time period. Could Windows be the most secure mainstream OS available today?
    So Linux was responsible for more than half of security advisories, and propriety UNIX for just as many? That adds up to more than 100%. Therefore Windows must have less than 0% of advisories, in keeping with the Law of Conservation of Security Holes. It follows logically that Windows security features must be so great that they somehow fix Unix and Linux security problems, in keeping with that same law.

    Wow, I'm going out to buy Windows XP now!!!

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  13. Re:stability by privaria · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Crash"? What do you mean when you say an operating system "crashes"? Oh wait...I've been using Linux for some months now, and almost forgot about that...

  14. Re:Migration... this is the definition of Migratio by io333 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Munich has over 100 Windows-only custom apps! They can't be expected just to switch to Linux and loose those overnight.

    That's the first time I've ever seen the word lose mispelled and it still worked in the sentence. Kinda cool.

  15. user guide to these comments by UnixRevolution · · Score: 2, Funny

    Comments on this article will fall into 4 categories: 1. "They have some legacy apps that they will migrate from Windows to UNIX slowly, maintain stability and control" 2. "They betrayed us and are a bunch of publicity-hungry Redmondites!!" 3. "Well, obviously, Linux sucks so of course they're using Windows on top of it" 4. "All your base are belong to us"

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  16. Re:Not a bad thing. by babyrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    and the only way to run Office is to use VMWare.

    I use Microsoft Office both on my home PC and my work laptop (when necessary, which is, unfortunately, often). They both run Linux. I use CrossoverOffice, which is a commercial version of Wine.

    So, there are ways other than vmWare, FYI.


    I run MS Office on my laptop using Windows 2000! I've heard of people using Windows NT, XP, 95 and 98 too! There's lots of ways to run it!

  17. Re:Not at all by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows 3.1.1 runs fine on my Pentium 4, the problem is that i can't find any software to run on it....

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  18. Re:Migration... this is the definition of Migratio by SN74S181 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Okay. So we know that the guys who put *stars* around words for emphasis instead of, say, using a few html tags for a similar effect are dual booting.

    That much has been established.....

  19. Re:Licensing AOK. Paul Thurrott is smoking crack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hell, I've seen more profesional things on Burbon Street.

    Hey now, don't knock Bourbon Street's professionalism. I was very expertly pick-pocketed there.

  20. Re:Thurott? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's Paul Thurrott, not Thurott.

    In either case it has embedded rot.

  21. Re:Understand the following: by Anime_Fan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I doubt the government is going to be playing Q3 deathmatch on their systems, or watching a huge amount of pr0n) that the average 'Doze or 'Nuxers need for their computing "experience".

    Actually, the reason they chose Linux in the end was the fact that Quake3 performance increased by 5% when switching OS. (Note: Actual statistics isn't the ones I made up on the spot, but from my own experience, they are merely 40% lies).

    As for porn, they'll probably use the DVD Player next to them, or load Xine.

    According to reliable sources, VMWare would only be used for the advanced Microsoft AI known as Clippy.

  22. Re:They did not take the microsoft deal because by lewp · · Score: 2, Funny

    oss rox nubz.

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  23. stats by JaJ_D · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I'm not sure exactly where Thurrott gets the 80% figure"

    As Vic Reeves would say "86.5% of statistics are made up on the spot".

    Jaj

  24. paul thurrott by flacco · · Score: 2, Funny
    though I'm not sure exactly where Thurrott gets the 80% figure.

    Where he gets most of his information - straight out of his ass.

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