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Fossil/Palm PDA Watch Reviewed

SLiK812 writes "Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal has a pretty good review of Palm's and Fossil's new wrist PDA. We all knew some time ago that this was coming out, and was initially covered last November and briefly last month. This is the first review I've seen, and Mossberg does bring up some interesting points, both good and bad. Definitely worth the read before buying it."

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  1. I can't imagine by leifm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that this thing is going to sell very well. It doesn't even look like it would be easy to use. And as I recall the battery only lasts like 48 hours. I wonder how they ever got this idea to market...

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  2. the importance of good editing by mblase · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...even in major newspapers. There are many interesting things about this watch/PDA I always wanted to know, but the fact that "The watches...come with a tiny stylus" is a little more personal than what I wanted to know.

  3. I LOVE MINE by sulli · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Fossil
    wrist pda
    is very co
    nvenient i
    f you dont

    mind a ver
    y small di
    splay area
    and a tiny
    stylus.

    But it is
    so very st
    ylish and
    gets me la
    id daily.

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
  4. Just a little too small by rice_web · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a great idea, but it's just too small. I hate the cell phones that attempt to cram so much into such a small space, or the laptops that cram a 1600x1200 resolution into a 15" monitor. With only 2MB of memory and an extremely small screen in a relatively bulky enclosure, I just don't see this as a great product.

    It definitely has its uses, but many would be well suited with a larger Palm Pilot or PocketPC.

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  5. Don't RTFA, this sums it up by goldspider · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Fossil Watch Has Awkward PDA, But Comes With Cool Style Feature"

    Summary: Functionally clumsy, but it looks cool!!

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    1. Re:Don't RTFA, this sums it up by xrayspx · · Score: 4, Funny

      Summary: Functionally clumsy, but it looks cool!!

      That watch is my polar opposite, it seems. (probably true of most geeks).

  6. Best suited... by gUmbi · · Score: 4, Funny


    For those people who think that a calculator watch just isn't quite geeky enough.

  7. Perfect for haiku by mblase · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fossil PDA:
    Looks very
    high-tech,
    but it's
    Super hard
    to use.

    1. Re:Perfect for haiku by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fossil PDA
      An ocean of circuitry
      But what time is it?

  8. Meh. by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Y'know, some combinations make sense, but aren't really meant to be.

    Traditional PDA screens are about as small as you can go while still retaining a reasonable degree of usability. Get a watch that's too large, and it's no longer anything that you want to wear on your wrist.

    While the entire concept of being able to wear your gadgets on your wrist is cool, it takes more than simply saying "I'll meet you halfway" to design such a device. Simply put, the PDA is too small, and the watch is too big for most people to be interested in this device.

    Unless you're dealing with a very limited input style--think at most four or five buttons and maybe some form of roller switch--it's going to be nearly impossible to develop a viable wrist-worn device that relies on tactile input. Data storage, sure. Even limited data output is doable--an iPod-esque control system could be adapted to a wristwatch, and one can create relatively unobtrusive displays for a watch (without too great of expectations for resolution, readability, or volume.) But trying to drop a PDA into a watch--that's just too much fine motor control and tactile interaction in too small a space to be practical.

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    1. Re:Meh. by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The way I interpreted the article was this:

      Rather than be put off by the "lack of Palmness" and expectations that it will be a substitute PDA, consider it a watch that happens to run Palm OS.

      Now, if you don't expect to perform input on a watch, then don't. Instead, you can write a Palm OS program and download it to the watch to have as your watch "face." You want a Matrix-like falling digit clock? Write it. You want a port of the Dali clock, with constantly morphing digits? Port it. You want to write a Tetris clock-game, where the falling blocks are shaped like numbers? Cool. You can even push the buttons on the side to play a little game. Thne, when you want to run OmniRemote to change the channels on the TV in the bar, fine. It runs, it's Palm OS.

      Just don't expect it to be your be-all/end-all PDA and it won't disappoint you.

      DISCLAIMER: I work for a company who has a retail division that sells Fossil watches. However, I am not trying to shill these watches in order to get you to buy one; I'm just pointing out that they are not as useless as they look as long as you lower your expectations. I personally won't buy one for the same reason I won't buy a PalmOS / cellphone combo: they are two different devices serving two different functions using two different human interfaces that only share a common need for internet connectivity. Viva la Bluetooth!

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  9. Sheesh... by Psiren · · Score: 4, Funny

    As it it wasn't hard enough to get a date, now they want me to strap a PDA to my wrist. Yeah, that'll reel 'em in...

  10. Already a knockoff version by Cy+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I think a watch is one of the ideal places to keep a data device - since you always have it with you (the other being a keychain), I don't see the point of paying a $100+ premium for a fashionable one over a functional one - no matter what you are going to be considered a geek for wearing one these, that you paid $295 for a Fossil branded PalmOS watch versus $179 for a Abacus branded one, only makes you look like a geek that is careless with his money.

  11. Two handed use... by jared_hanson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I found entering text, and even accurately tapping on items on the screen, to be awkward and frustrating -- especially with the watch on my arm, but even when I removed it to hold it with both hands.

    Yeah, I've always had the same problem with my regularly sized Palm. Whenever I hold it using both hands, it is damn near impossible to use the stylus with any accuracy, much less trying to write letters. However, I don't suspect Palm is going to fix this anytime soon. My inclination is that they will just wait for users to evolve a third hand. Even then, I suppose you will have people trying to hold their Palms with all three of their hands.

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  12. Battery by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Informative

    Assuming I would want to wear an ugly huge watch (that's a personal opinion of couse) that's called "Fossil" and is MSN-enabled (uuh), I have a problem with such small devices that have an internal battery.

    From the specs page :

    POWER REQUIREMENTS : AC power adapter (100V-240V), DC output (4V-9V), Lithium-ion rechargeable battery (internal).

    BATTERY LIFE : 4-5 days (based on average use of 30 minutes per day with no backlight or IR)

    Right, so in real life, if I was to use the thing normally, with backlight at night and syncing with my desktop with IR, I'd say I'd probably have to charge it up every 2 or 3 days. Given that a real-life Li-Ion batteries have a typical life of 300 recharge cycles (yes, you can get more out of them, but you have to be *very* careful when you charge and for how long, which isn't always practical in a consumer device), especially since it's probably a super-small fragile battery, that means the battery will have to be changed after 2.5 years of use at most.

    Do I want to see the face of the watch repairman when I bring him the Fossil for a battery change? Do I want to see the bill when I have to send the watch back to Fossil for a battery replacement? No.

    So, no PDA watch for me. Nosiree ...

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  13. Does this somehow mean by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny

    that Flava-Flav will now hang an iBook around his neck?

  14. What about lefties? by clarencek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm left handed, and I wear my watch on my left wrist... so am I supposed to change which wrist I wear my watch on after 20 years?
    Should I try graffiti with my right hand? I have a hard enough time with my left.

  15. Puhlease by radiumhahn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Palm pilot...$70
    Palm pilot watch w/ almost no features...$300
    Look on wife's face...priceless.

  16. Re:shortcomings by camusflage · · Score: 4, Funny
    Imagine a hot girl at Starbucks asking you the time
    This is slashdot. What makes you think most readers are capable of imagining CONVERSATION with a hot girl?
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  17. Re:World's Smallest Spam Whisked daily to your wri by imnoteddy · · Score: 4, Funny
    STYLUS-EN
    LARGER!!!
    add THREE
    INCHES to
    your styl

    us!!

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  18. Author in awe... of standard Palm feature? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the article:

    But the most interesting feature of the Wrist PDA has nothing to do with the Palm functionality. In watch mode, when the thing is just telling time, you can scroll through and select from a wide variety of different watch-face designs. This is the first watch I know of that lets you pick the way its face looks and change that look as often as you like.

    Well, duh! It's a Palm, so of course you can make the watch have whatever face you want!

    My Palm III (all of $11 on eBay) has multiple clock faces, too -- Analog, Big Digital Clock with world time and weekday-only alarms, another Analog version, and my favorite, the Hell Clock with built-in countdown to Halloween. "Hell Clock" is the one that I like to beam to the cell phones at the Verizon store, to give them more "visual interest".

    I'd have dozens more, but I lost interest after four. And I didn't pay one red cent for any of 'em (all were freeware at the time).

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  19. Yeah, right. by volpe · · Score: 4, Funny


    For those people who think that a calculator watch just isn't quite geeky enough.

    Uh huh. And the rest of us look like James Bond with our tri-corders clipped to our belts, right?