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An anonymous reader writes "Doc Searls, editor at Linux Journal, has a very insightful editorial that brings it all together - the FCC media consolidation ruling, SCO vs. Linux, why broadband is under attack by telcos and cable systems, why we lost Eldred vs. Ashcroft, what's really interesting about Howard Dean's presidential campaign, and a very astute observation about the vast gulf between Liberals and Conservatives."

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  1. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about we all agree to disband and join bbs's ?

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    1. Re:Hrmm by Winterblink · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I wish. I miss the old BBS days. Sure we didn't have the full-on multimedia experience that the net is now. But we weren't constantly under fire from organizations trying to control our computers and the stuff we store on it. We weren't assaulted by spam and advertisements on any page view or mouse click. Most of all, what I miss was the greater sense of community the local BBS fostered. Sure you didn't necessarily KNOW the people there, but you lived in the same city or region they did. You could go to a BBS meet at a local bar or something, organize it a couple weeks in advance. Running a BBS was a blast too. One could actually distinguish themselves easily when there was only a couple dozen major boards in the area, and it was fun fostering the growth of your own little section of the community.

      I kind of feel sorry for people who didn't come from the old BBS days. They truly missed out on something special.

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    2. Re:Hrmm by caluml · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why don't we just establish an overlay internetwork between like minded people, and use our own addresses schema within it. It would suffer slowness, but currently, the only thing that stops you being anonymous on the internet today is the fact that your IP address is tied to you by your ISP. If we could work out some kind of dynamic routing and allocation protocol whereby I wish to join this new network, so I send a query out with my chosen IP, and if no-one replies that it is taken, then I use the address, and advertise the route to it, then you would be free to choose whatever address you like. (Of course, routing table sizes would need to be worked on to make sure they stay small). GNoIN? (Geeknet over Internet)

    3. Re:Hrmm by GammaTau · · Score: 4, Informative

      It sounds like GNUnet might be something you would be interested of.

    4. Re:Hrmm by caluml · · Score: 5, Informative
      GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking

      Nope, I would want a whole nother IP network to run whatever stuff I liked on. With its own DNS servers, etc. Just like the current IP network runs over a physical network, this IP network would run over the current IP network. Literally an Internet over the current Internet. Probably using IPSec to link the nodes of the new network up to each other.

    5. Re:Hrmm by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 2, Funny
      Running a BBS was a blast too. One could actually distinguish themselves easily when there was only a couple dozen major boards in the area, and it was fun fostering the growth of your own little section of the community.

      Don't forget the Warez boards! Woohoo. Do I have enough credits to download Space Quest II or do I need to upload something? Gotta think quick, only 45 minutes left on my allotted time today. I wish there was still warez groups around today. Getting free software was kind of nice. Now I have to go out and buy it. That sucks. Whatever happened to warez?

    6. Re:Hrmm by arkane1234 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll have to agree with you, I really miss it. I used to run a BBS in maryland called Starpost Sentinel (later named Apocalypse)... short lived but very fun. Most of my time was being a user. I met more interesting people that way, and learned so much more within a timeframe of 4 years than I could have in 20, honestly. Not to mention programming WWIV :P

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    7. Re:Hrmm by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No kidding. I used to run a BBS up here in Massachusetts.. hell, I forget the name of it, must have been nearly 10 years ago I pulled the plug. I used VirtualBBS which got me started programming hardcore again, QuickBasic, but hey, we gotta start somewhere. And then I found the WWIV package on a warez board somewhere, and that got me into learning C. That year and a half jumpstarted my career. What a blast. Being the first BBS in my area to bring Internet email to my users, digging up my driveway to install 24 phone lines... My parents were very kewl about the whole thing...

      Things have come a long way since then, but at the same time, I don't think anything can really replace the BBS. Hell, I met nearly every one of the friends I hang out with today online...

      <sigh>

    8. Re:Hrmm by Winterblink · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I ran an anime board here in my area. Even got reviewed in Computer Shopper, back in the days when they had BBS reviews and it was a thicker magazine than the phone book. :) What was cool was I noticed this one guy logging in at weird hours with a crazy phone number and address. The guy was from BRAZIL, and called long distance to my system for the full two hours time limit every day to play Tradewars, VGA Planets, download some anime pics and chat on the message base. Crazy! He had a bunch of his friends doing the same thing, I suggested he just start a Brazilian anime board to save him and his buddies some cash. :) Not that he was unwelcome or anything. Met lots of really interesting people, not the least of which were other sysops through Fido's sysop-only netmail. WWIV was a neat board. I ran Renegade towards the end of my BBS's lifespan, that worked out very well. The cool thing was I rigged up Waffle BBS as a door so people could jump into it and tap into usenet feeds and email, for free. This was years before the big internet explosion, and I think I was the only place in town that offered that in the way I did it. The users frickin loved it. It wasn't instant email since I still had to dial out every night to hook into the usenet feed, but it worked extremely well.

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  2. Dean for President by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: But they avoid visiting a fact that should be deeply troubling to every candidate running (and then governing) for money rather than for voters: Dean's lead is owed to a huge number of small donations, not to a small number of large special interests. If he's being bought, it's by his voters. This is a New Thing. It's also been made possible by the Net.

    This was part of what the internet was all about: democratizing the ability of an individual outside the established powers to enter into competition or publication or public recognition. Dean has been smart about this and so far, he certainly has my vote.

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    1. Re:Dean for President by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "This was part of what the internet was all about: democratizing the ability of an individual outside the established powers to enter into competition or publication or public recognition. "

      No, actually it was to facilitate the sharing of physics papers.

    2. Re:Dean for President by ih8apple · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One thing you're neglecting is that President Bush's money also comes from a huge number of small donations. A lot of them are "bundled" into a lump sum by lobby groups and corporations, but they are comprised of individual donations. Republicans tend to have an advantage during most election cycles in terms of the sheer number of individual donors. The influence still lies with the groups, not the individuals. Does this equal democratization? Or does this equal a small number of groups forcing employees or members to pony up so as to not violate campaign finance laws? (and Democrat groups do the same thing, btw, especially unions. The most ironic thing about campaign finance reform being pushed by the Democrats is that they were hurt the most by it.)

    3. Re:Dean for President by analog_line · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This was nothing about what the Internet "was all about". This is a bit of what it could have been, and may just be. The Internet "was all about" military communications. DARPA. Get it through your thick skulls you mush brained flower power idiots. The Internet wasn't created to bring world peace and harmony through greater communication. At best, it allows people to find people they like who they wouldn't even have met, while at the same time allowing them to find and harrass people they didn't even know they hated. At worst it's as much a tool of opression as any other you care to mention.

      It's a tool. A thing. It can and will be used by your enemies as effectively as your allies.

      You, and people like you, sound like the blithering idiots that would claim that nuclear energy would save the world and usher in a world of peace and prosperity with flying cars.

    4. Re:Dean for President by Saint+Mitchell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. I hope he gets the dem nomination. When do they decide who gets the nomination? Is it at the national convention? Or is it similar to the electiorial college, you weigh each states votes?

      Anyway, I think it great what's going on. He's getting a lot of cash from those who actually vote for him. It's not to hard to get 40,000 people who like you to give $20. Granted it's only $800,000 and not the 100+ mil or whatever obscene about the retard currently in office spent. Get 1 million people to send you $20 and now you stand a chance. I remember seeing Dean on cspan and thinking "man, this guys great. Too bad he won't get the nomination, he makes a lot of sense. And it's be nice to have a doctor in office for once."

      You guys should check out Dean's weblog It's got the current happenings and Meetups

    5. Re:Dean for President by BWJones · · Score: 2, Flamebait

      Dear God you're stupid.

      My Ph.D. says otherwise.

      The Internet was about building a very large network that could withstand physical attack.

      No, that was Arpanet. It can be argued that the "Internet" is a much different beast.

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    6. Re:Dean for President by phantomlord · · Score: 5, Interesting
      In the 2000 election, GWB collected $81,260,483 from contributors of more than $200 and another $20,260,290 from people contributing less than $200. That means at least 182563 (81261+101302) contributors. Seems like a pretty significant amount of people.

      Looking at this year's race, GWB has 6996 contributors under the $2000 limit, compared to Dean at 8662. A difference of less than 1700 contributors isn't really that ground breaking, especially seeing as the campaign cycle hasn't gone into full swing yet.

      The dirty little secret is GWB, and republicans in general, actually do better at collecting numbers of small donations than the democrats do. The vast majority of democratic hard money come from large donations by people in the entertainment and legal fields whereas republicans do better in the flyover country that the democrats often like to ignore. Yes... Dean has more non-limit contributors than GWB right now, but remember that 101302 figure at the end of the 2000 cycle as the election season begins to brew.

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    7. Re:Dean for President by aborchers · · Score: 3, Informative
      Dear God you're stupid. The Internet was about building a very large network that could withstand physical attack.


      Watch the name calling. You're apparently not such a scholar yourself.

      The poster said "democratizing..." was "part of what the internet was all about", not that it was created for that purpose. It is not revisionist to point out that in the nascent days of the Net, the cited motivation was a strong component of the network's culture. It is this network that Doc Searle's argues needs "saving" from becoming a crass and commercialized content vector for media giants.

      OTOH, If you'd called him out for failing to capitalize Internet, I would have applauded you. ;-)

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    8. Re:Dean for President by gomiam · · Score: 3, Informative
      Moderators are quite trigger happy today :-)

      Perhaps you should check here or here and learn, once and for all, that Internet was not designed to withstand physical attacks. It just was a by-product.

      Oh, lest I forget, ad hominem attacks take weight of your assertions (even more when they are not quite correct).

      'til next post...

      Marcos (any likeness to chance is pure reality)

    9. Re:Dean for President by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're absolutely right - the broader Internet was developed by ISP's trying to get $10, $20, or even $50 a month from avid consumers.

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    10. Re:Dean for President by micromoog · · Score: 3, Informative
      One thing you're neglecting is that President Bush's money also comes from a huge number of small donations. A lot of them are "bundled" into a lump sum by lobby groups and corporations, but they are comprised of individual donations.

      This is simply not true. The Republican Party leans heavily on large donations from individuals. These individuals generally are in the financial "upper crust", and generally benefit financially from a Republican administration (massive tax cuts, etc.).

      The Republican Party is geared towards saving people money. This is the key issue for Republican politics, regardless of all the morality bullshit they spew. If you're greedy, you vote Republican, whether it's for an end to the estate tax or a $300 tax refund loan.

    11. Re:Dean for President by ceejayoz · · Score: 4, Informative

      When do they decide who gets the nomination? Is it at the national convention? Or is it similar to the electiorial college, you weigh each states votes?

      The candidates win delegates in each state primary, and the results are tallied at the national convention. Delegates can vote contrary to how their state voted, but it's unusual.

      It's not to hard to get 40,000 people who like you to give $20. Granted it's only $800,000 and not the 100+ mil or whatever obscene about the retard currently in office spent.

      Try 60,000+ people giving an average of over $60... the Dean campaign collected something like 7 million in the last quarter. Bush, of course, has about 200 million... but once the Democratic lineup thins out, it'll be easier to raise funds.

    12. Re:Dean for President by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dear God you're stupid.

      Insightful? I think not. Shesh. The comment speaks loudly about the author and his inability to process facts.

      Simple fact is, there are two major stepping stones of the Internet. The first was its inception and creation. Many years later, there was the mass realization and acceptance of it, where comments, such as, "democratizing the ability of an individual outside the established powers to enter into competition or publication or public recognition.", make a lot sense.

      Are you that blind that you're unable to see the social emphasis and impact of government, both on and off the Internet?

      You revisionist

      Seems like you're the only once attempting to revise history.

    13. Re:Dean for President by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >My Ph.D. says otherwise.

      Mail me your diploma. In the meantime, you should fear my superpowers.

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    14. Re:Dean for President by gfxguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I call bullshit.

      If you're greedy, you vote democrat - that's how you get entitlements that you're not entitled to, and tax refunds where you never paid any taxes, and government subsidies for things that don't deserve to be subsidized.

      All the people who want money for nothing - that's greed.

      My apologies to the non-extemists out there reading this, but if someone's going to paint a broad, false picture of what it means to vote republican, I'll respond in kind. And NO, I'm NOT a republican.

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    15. Re:Dean for President by BWJones · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If your Ph.D. isn't in this field, your mentioning the Ph.D. is basically an attempt to get one up on me by artificially inflating your knowledge in this particular subject.

      Actually, I rely quite heavily on the Internet to perform my research and collaborate with folks all over the world. My playing that card was in response to your rather knee jerk obnoxious statement, assessing the intellectual abilities of someone you know nothing about.

      It can be argued. But it's a stupid argument. Because the Internet is a technological advancement of Arpanet, not an ideological one.

      Sigh, what's the point?...........O.K., for education purposes.....Why do you discount any ideological arguments for the creation of the internet? Why do we do what we do? Why try to find a cure for cancer? Why did we go to the moon? Why try to find a cure for blindness? These are are achievements that are highly technical in nature, but they have ideological foundations. Just.....like....the....Internet.

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    16. Re:Dean for President by (trb001) · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've gotta side with Adrian on this one, both in his interpretation of the asinine internet ideology and his comments about PhD holders.

      IMun-PhDO, the internet was and always has been about establishing the easiest means of connectivity between two points. Since a nuclear bomb could render NYC a void, being able to route around that problem is essential, so the internet is a redundant network. Free speech was a benefit, only because...

      1) Suddenly you could talk to groups of people easily, in open forums or on your personal webpage

      2) in the early days, nobody cared what the people on the internet were saying, because the people on the internet weren't a large enough body to sway opinion, nor were they the people in power. had certain people had foresight, would it have grown the same way? doubtful.

      Arguing that the internet is any sort of ideological being is pointless, it's the content that makes it ideological. The internet itself is just a network, built to ensure communication between point A and point B.

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    17. Re:Dean for President by ih8apple · · Score: 5, Informative

      from this site:

      $220 million directly donated to presidential campaigns by individuals under the law (hard money, not soft money large donations from individuals)...
      $157 million to Republican candidates......
      $63 million to Democratic candidates......
      conclusion: your source is faulty.

    18. Re:Dean for President by aborchers · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I said, carefully differentiating the intent behind the network's creation from the culture that evolved on it, was that early Internet culture (i.e. that which emerged after the basic protocols were in place, and people actually started to use the thing) was rife with thinking of it as a revolutionary communications tool that would "level the playing field" for all of its users. As I recall, that was a much more common theme than its use as a global shopping mall. If you need proof of that claim, I will leave it to you to search the archives as far back into history as you desire...

      Doubtlessly you will dismiss me for failing to provide you with the requested citation. Since the early network was used almost exclusively by fuzzy-thinking academics, I am not going out on that wild goose chase.

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    19. Re:Dean for President by gilroy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Blockquoth the poster:


      This was part of what the internet was all about: democratizing the ability of an individual outside the established powers to enter into competition or publication or public recognition.

      Dear God you're stupid. The Internet was about building a very large network that could withstand physical attack.


      There are few amusements as reliably entertaining as reading slashdot and seeing someone call someone else "stupid", then immediately following that with a statement now known to be false. Let's go over it again:

      The Internet was not designed to "withstand physical attack" (nuclear or otherwise).

      The Internet (well, ARPAnet) was designed to -- hold onto your hats -- connect computers. The main "anti-nuke" technology quoted by everyone is usually packet-switching. But that was invented to avoid the issue (from dedicated phone lines) of one circuit, one call. For voice transmission, it makes sense that you hold a line open for the duration of a conversation. For data transmission, less so.


      The whole nuclear war thing is just an urban legend. Read Where Wizards Stay Up Late for more.

    20. Re:Dean for President by sckeener · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a friend that says 'he's too rich to be a Democrat.'

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    21. Re:Dean for President by TamMan2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you're greedy, you vote democrat - that's how you get entitlements that you're not entitled to, and tax refunds where you never paid any taxes, and government subsidies for things that don't deserve to be subsidized.

      Nope, the vast majority of the people you descirbed don't vote.

      The democratic voters are those who care more about others than the republicans do...

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    22. Re:Dean for President by b-baggins · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, your PhD simply says you're an EDUCATED idiot.

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    23. Re:Dean for President by ceejayoz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bush trounced Gore pretty badly in the 2000 election, too. It seems counter intutive that Republicans would have more popular support, but most hyper wealthy people lean toward the left (Gates, Ellison, actors, lawyers)

      Oh? Gore won the popular vote, and it took a month to decide who won the electoral vote. I wouldn't call that getting "trounced pretty badly." If you're going to include hyper wealthy leftists, makes sure you include the hyper wealthy rightists too - most of big business goes Republican.

    24. Re:Dean for President by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And I for one welcome our new flying car overlords!

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    25. Re:Dean for President by Arker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The most ironic thing about campaign finance reform being pushed by the Democrats is that they were hurt the most by it.

      That's not actually true.

      The class hurt most by it is non-incumbents. Incumbents get free postage and lots of opportunities to effectively campaign from their official position and get plenty of free media coverage. Incumbents have little difficulty raising enough money to wage an effective campaign, both because they have the advantages mentioned above and so need less money, and also because donors know incumbents are likely to win and thus are better bets.

      It's challengers of any party, particularly from third parties of course, that this 'reform' hurts. It forces them to spend even more time and effort raising money, instead of campaigning, and it makes it even harder for them to raise enough money to make a viable campaign effort, particularly in the face of the advantages incumbents hold by default.

      The 'reform' is a fraud, whose primary effect is to make both Democratic and Republican incumbents even more safe from challengers, particularly from smaller parties like the Libertarians and the Greens.

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    26. Re:Dean for President by Wah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I dunno what report you read. This one you linked included this tidbit.
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      REPUBLICANS
      1980 2000
      Winner (Reagan) (G.W. Bush)
      Percent donations over $750 19% 74%

      DEMOCRATS
      1980 2000
      Winner (Carter) (Gore)
      Percent donations over $750 35% 48%

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      Which, along with the other numbers, would seem to confirm, without a doubt, that much of the Republican campaign money from individuals, comes from rather rich ones. No surprise there.

      So this assertion (<i>The Republican Party leans heavily on large donations from individuals. These individuals generally are in the financial "upper crust", and generally benefit financially from a Republican administration (massive tax cuts, etc.</i>) would seem to be correct. And in fact, investing a bit of the windfall from the tax cuts in the form of campaign donations would probably be prudent for many of them, as no doubt, many Republicans fundraisers are reminding them.

      There's a reason Bush will raise more money than any candidate in history, he's a tried, tested, and successful investment.

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  3. Who needs the Internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm happy with AOL and MSN. They provide all I need. I find more useful content on there anyway then I do on the "internet"

  4. liberal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When will Americans learn what "liberal" really means? Many Americans use it as if it is an insult, and they seem ignorant to the fact that the United States was founded on the basis of liberalism.

    1. Re:liberal by BWJones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many Americans use it as if it is an insult,

      Only if you are right wing Republican. :-) Most Democrats I know are more than happy to call themselves liberal.

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    2. Re:liberal by FatRatBastard · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most Democrats I know are more than happy to call themselves liberal. ..which has nothing to do with the word "liberalism" that the parent was talking about. I'm glad those on the left are abandoning the word "liberal" for the word "progressive." Hopefully popular usage of the word will revert back to its original meaning. I associate liberal with Isaiah Berlin, not Ralph Nader.

    3. Re:liberal by syrinx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      americans mostly use a different definition for "liberal" then the "principles that the United States was founded on". hence the phrase "classical liberal".

      frankly, being a "liberal", in the sense that most americans use it, should be an insult. :P

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    4. Re:liberal by Caoch93 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Um those who live in glass houses should not throw bongs. Libertarian is not a bastardization of Liberal It is a statement of one being for Liberty.

      Maybe, but at the same time, the words "Liberal" and "Libertarian" both come from a root of "Liber". Furthermore, if you go to WordNet, you'll see the first two definitions of liberal are...(1) a person who believes in progress, reform, and the protection of civil liberties (2) a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets.

      There has been a strong drift in the meaning of the word "liberal". At the time of the founding of the US, the words "liberal" and "libertarian" would have been mostly redundant. Also, while I'm setting the record straight, the strict definition of "libertarian" is simply someone who holds to a philosophical concept of free will. The Libertarian Party and libertarianism are two completely different things.

      As far as I'm aware, earlier in this century, the "progress" concept of liberalism led to people who called themselves "social liberals", and the term has since just become "liberal". Their ideology is radically different from classical liberal theory, but the moniker has stuck. It's important to note that saying the US was founded on liberal ideas is correct within many academic circles as "liberal" to them still refers to the philosophies of Smith et al. In fact, in 1997, I spent several weeks in a college-level European history class discussing the "collapse of liberalism" as a central ideology in the Western world. The professor was, of course, referring to classical liberalism, not modern liberalism.

      Liberals today are for restricting free speech, under the idea of political correctness Liberalisms ugly offspring people; have to watch what they say or do at a university for fear of getting kicked out. Don't believe me? try to hang a confederate flag in you Dorm window.

      Depends on whether or not that dorm is in South Carolina, really. Also depends on the university. I mean, it *IS* the university's dorm. They can do what they want with it.

      The term "Libertarianism" did not exist when the USA was founded but the spirit did..

      ..and that spirit had a name, and it was called, and is still called (by many) "liberalism".

    5. Re:liberal by amcguinn · · Score: 3, Insightful
      (I already posted this as AC, but I just remembered my slashdot username, which I haven't used in a while)

      This is a confusion based on some odd history. The word "liberal" in the world outside the USA has the meaning that "libertarian" has inside the USA.

      For many years Americans had no word for "liberal" because they didn't need one. As an earlier poster said, the USA was founded on the principle of liberalism, and nobody involved in US politics wasn't a liberal. The US constitution is one of the best and clearest statements of liberal principles in history.

      Some time later, some Americans started to dislike the liberal principles of the constitution. They therefore tried to say that it meant something other than what it said. This needed a lot of interpretation. Because they interpreted the constitution "liberally", and because the word Liberal wasn't in use in US politics at that point, they called themselves "liberals".

      That is why "liberal" means the opposite in the USA of what it means in the rest of the (English and French speaking) world.

      Of course, now that liberalism is a matter of political dispute in America, liberals need to call themselves something. They can't call themselves "liberals", as they would elsewhere, because the word has been stolen by their opponents. That is the origin of the term "libertarian".

      It's all rather like why private schools in Britain are called "public schools".

      Since I'm no longer anonymous, and to justify reposting this with the benefit of my immense karma, I'll put myself in context by saying I'm a generally pro-American Brit with political views which in Britain qualify me as lunatic-fringe liberal and in the US would count as moderate Libertarian.

    6. Re:liberal by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny
      Here's how it works: how do you feel about worshipping Satan?
      • You worship Satan: You should vote Republican.
      • You don't worship Satan, but you will defend with your life everyone else's right to worship Satan: You should vote Democrat.
      • You don't care what folks do, as long as they do it outside of your fortified backwoods compound: You should vote Libertarian.
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  5. Liberal/Convervative mumbo jumbo by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The author spends too much time polarizing this into a liberal vs. conservative issue. That's a meaningless division, much like republican vs. democrat. Obviously he has a lot of issues with what he deems as conservatives, so he's stereotyping them and lashing out.

    (As a side note, the raw meaning of the term "conservative" is pretty interesting in regard to his issues. You could say that people who want music and software to be free are "liberal." You could also say that people who think that a UNIX-alike is the pinnacle of operating system design are "conservative.")

  6. Conspiracy? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To paraphrase a common saying, do not attribute to consipracy that which can be adequately explained by greed.

    There's little doubt that there's movements working against what much of the Linux communities believe in, but there's no Big Bad hidden agenda here -- just simple, petty and local greed.

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  7. Terminator is trying to by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Terminator is trying to ..excuse me RIAA/MPAA is trying to get Arnold to run for President under their banner..

    Not a joke people..

    Its time for Revolution...

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    1. Re:Terminator is trying to by Servo5678 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But wait a minute - I thought that one of the requirements to be president is that the candidate must be an American-born citizen. Arnold, being Austrian-born and all, doesn't meet that requirement.

    2. Re:Terminator is trying to by bmongar · · Score: 2, Informative
      trying to get Arnold to run for President


      Of course he can't be president without a constitutional ammendment allowing naturalized citizens to be president.

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    3. Re:Terminator is trying to by kenthorvath · · Score: 2, Informative
      Terminator is trying to ..excuse me RIAA/MPAA is trying to get Arnold to run for President under their banner..

      I'm sorry but this is wrong. Actually Arnold is looking to run for the governership of the great state of California, which he declared that he would do if they recalled whatever-his-name-is.

    4. Re:Terminator is trying to by Mark+Clements · · Score: 2, Informative
      Terminator is trying to ..excuse me RIAA/MPAA is trying to get Arnold to run for President under their banner..

      Ummmm, quick refresher course in civics:

      From Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constitution:
      No person except a natural born citizen...shall be eligible to the office of President
      Not a joke people..

      <Dr. Evil>Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiight.</Dr. Evil>
    5. Re:Terminator is trying to by deacent · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's already one in Congress, co-authored and introduced by Rep. Barney Frank. It only applies those who have citizenship and have lived in the U.S. for at least twenty years. Of couse, it means nothing until it's ratified, but since Mr. Schwarznegger is a citizen and has lived in this country for more than twenty years, he would be eligible.

      -Jennifer

    6. Re:Terminator is trying to by steelrecluse · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Time to start paying attention to news sites other than Slashdot. Orrin Hatch (Senator from Utah) is pushing an ammendment to allow US Citizens that were not born in the US but have been citizens for a decent amount of time (I believe 20 years) to be eligible to be president. It's actually a good idea in my opinion, the requirement that you were born in the US is outdated.

      The ironic thing is wasn't there a Movie (was it Demolition Man?) about a future where they changed the laws to allow Arnold to become president? Life imitates movies it appears.

  8. Free Air Optical by femto · · Score: 5, Interesting
    What about geeks connecting to each other, in a mesh, using through-the-air optical links, thus forming a 'private' internet?
    • Raw components (LEDs and LASERs) are cheap .
    • Bandwidth is high >100MHz with cheap laser + PIN diode
    • Visible spectrum is unlicensed (it's just light)
    • Spectrum reuse is very high.
    • Consequently it has a very high data density (bits per second per unit volume)
    • In many juridiction it falls outside telecommunications regulation, as such regulation only covers wires, fibres and radio (frequency less than light) signals

    The only 'major' piece missing is a simple and cheap form of active aiming to keep the transmitter and receiver reliably pointing at each other. There's a project for someone.

  9. Oh yeah? by Exatron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, I'll just go build my own internet... with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the internet.

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  10. How to Save the Net by s20451 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Move the whole thing to Canada.

    Seriously now. You want Howard Dean? We've got a party full of them. We just keep electing them, and we can't stop ourselves.

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  11. Just a random thought by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Interesting article. If PCs (and presumably Macs) are going to end up crippled by DRM, what's to stop someone - such as the Chinese, who have demonstrated they can design and build a home-grown CPU, or possibly VIA - throwing away the x86/PowerPC architecture and building an alternative "personal computer"? Given a reasonable C compiler, I bet someone would have Linux running on it by the time it was ready for market, and then the owner of the new "PC" would be in the pocket of no-one - not MS, not Intel, not AOL-TW and not whoever is paying the US Government at that point in time.

    OK, AOL would never let you play streamed Harry Potter movies on it, but you could use the web and run office applications, which would keep most of us happy. Wouldn't it?

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  12. Did I miss something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That article just seemed to be a collection of random quotes thrown together without one original thought from the author or even an underlying explanation of how they fit together.

    A great example is the quote from the National Review. It is a great quote and specifically attacks the changes that have happened in copyright law. At the end of the quote the article "author" says "National Review is a conservative magazine. John Bloom is a conservative columnist. This is significant." But he doesn't go on to explain WHY this is significant. Is it because the author is surprised that a conservative can have an intelligent thought?

    In other things he is just plain wrong. He states that "Liberals often are flummoxed by the way conservatives seem to love big business (including, of course, big media)." Yet it is the democrats who are most in the pocket of big business. Here is a clue - Hollywood is 99.9% liberals. The other 0.1% is Drew Carey. Senator Hollings is a Democrat. DMCA was signed by a Democrat into law. Mary Bono may be a Republican but only in name.

    If you think that the internet is failing than this article is a great sign it isn't. The fact that any unintelligent schlub could post an article like this and receive praise for it proves it.

    1. Re:Did I miss something? by Pave+Low · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Couldn't have said it better myself. This tripe sounds like classic Jon Katz garbage.

      Wild generalizations, wrong conclusions, overreaching and simplifications sum up what this "editorial" is.

      In the end, it's Armageddon unless we "Save the Net", and btw elect Howard Dean (he's not really endorsing him, but here's a hint).

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  13. Consumer by Force by rhadamanthus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Arguments supported by Hollywood promoting copyright as "property" has a more grevious undertone, in my opinion. It seeks to divide everyone into two categories: The content creators and the content consumers. To many people inside the corporate media sphere see themselves as the only suppliers of creative ingenuity, innovation, and art. It appears that for the sake of protecting their egomania and "intellectual property" anyone who owns a computer is going to be forced to have it turned into nothing more than a fancy TV.


    The word consumer, as a whole, is also a source of aggravation. It implies a notion of being fed, of being given content that you don't necessarily desire. And this is precisely what this notion of "distributors of intellectual property" is demanding of you. Sit down in front of your computer/TV, pay an exorbitant fee, and watch the same old boring content and advertisement barrage over and over again. The great thing about the current computer is its ability to allow for the construction of content, not its ability to supply it. This is further amplified by the Internet, and the accompanying ease of distribution and immense audience. For instance, a musician could record a song onto his computer and sell it via the Internet, or a graphic artist could market his art. In the future, perhaps even an independent film company could market it's wares online. A future dictated by DRM and "property" restrictions allows only a few select companies to digitally "watermark" their media in a manner which the now-crippled computer can read. Does anyone honestly believe that these same companies that desire such immense control will relinquish it in the future to independents desiring to sell to the same market?


    Suddenly a person is no longer an individual, but a forced consumer of multiple mega-corporations. The prospect is as disturbing as it is possible. The myth of "intellectual property" is curbing and inhibiting the free expression of ideas and content, precisely what copyright law was intended to promote.

    ---rhad


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    1. Re:Consumer by Force by Maul · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The question, really, is "what do I see my choices as being?"

      The problem is that the RIAA, MPAA, etc. wish to limit your choice in entertainment to what _they_ provide.

      The internet has the potential to give people a choice beyond what the typical outlets have to offer. Ultimately, it has the potential to eliminate the need for entertainers to require a "middle man." There is a potential huge explosion of choice out there.

      I'm not saying that all RIAA and MPAA products are bad. Nor am I saying all independent entertainment is good. The -choice- to choose between the two is important, however.

      Of course, this threatens the business of the middle men. For once they might have a distribution model that competes with theirs!

      That is why they want to use DRM or control the ISPs. They want to regain control of the content distribution mediums so that only they can provide the entertainment.

      Sadly, people have grown up in a world of entertainment controlled by the RIAA and MPAA. Many younger people are not true lovers of music, for example, they simply buy the CDs that MTV says to. Years of being barraged with ads have given us an "impulse" to consume. The "impulse" to consume is what drives us to quickly buy up popular music without taking the time exploring alternatives or create music ourselves.

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  14. Save the internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Quick! Call Al Gore!

  15. What it boils down to is... by BFKrew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... money. Plain and simple.

    When a lot of big companies start seeing a potential to see their profits tumble they will react agressively to protect their interests. Is it any wonder that the media companies are worried that millions of people around the world are sharing millions of music tracks and films? Are the software companies worried about people downloading software? The answer is yes.

    Do such companies want to control the internet? Undoutedly. Can you imagine the potential for a company like Disney to broadcast Disney.tv to every household on the planet with an internet enabled tv? Wow... you are talking serious money there, but people can already do it - for free at the moment.

    I think a lot of these people identify the internet as this 'Holy Grail' to make billions, if only they had the final, killer ingredient. Whilst this potential exists, where there's money there's immense power and this power will try to bend, distort and manouever the internet as best it can towards its vested interests.

  16. Interview with Howard Dean by ornil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Howard Dean seems to be a very unusual candidate with regard to the use of technology and the tech crowd in general. How about we try to get an interview with him? We can ask him about DMCA, Patriot act and stuff like that. Wouldn't it be nice to have a president who actually heard of Slashdot?:)
    He appeared on Lessig's blog which has (I would guess) a lot fewer readers than Slashdot, so it seems likely he would agree, if we approached it right. Does anyone know his campaign people, so we can find out?

    1. Re:Interview with Howard Dean by Rudeboy777 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is such a good idea that I just went and contacted him about it (well, I contacted his mail-reading interns anyway...) I welcome other to do the same.

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    2. Re:Interview with Howard Dean by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 2, Informative

      Re:The Patriot act, Dean has serious concerns about it, and thinks that parts of it go way too far and violate civil rights.

      They do not have an official policy on the DMCA as of yet (I asked them) but they are formulating one, and I would suspect that it would be on the side of fair use and the right to tinker with what one owns.

      As well, they are against the consolidation of the medis, for whatever that's worth.

      Actually when it comes to tech, Dean is very close to Gingrich..which is not entirely a bad thing. Very strong on future tech and R&D.

  17. Re:The internet the big corporation way by Trigun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am not sure why this was marked as offtopic. A little doomsday-ish maybe, but not offtopic. Face it, everyone is vying for control over the net. The Chinese government wants to control it, The U.S. Government wants to control it, the corporations want to control it.

    They have concluded what Marshall McLuhan had years ago, that the medium is the message. The natrual extension of this is that whoever controls the medium, controls the message.

    Without the anarchy which fostered the internet, we will end up with another passive form of entertainment that is inaccessable to the masses from a broadcast standpoint, television.

    The internet is the voice of the people (scary,innit?). Sure some people speak louder than others, and some are leaders while others are followers. But everyone has a voice, and that is what is being taken away from us, slowly at first, and then with great vigor as we become more complacent.

    I have a website, and nobody in their right mind would give me a television show. I don't know if that's considered progress, but I like where this whole internet thing could go, if only we're allowed to take it there ourselves.

  18. Being bought by cryonic*angel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a frequent criticism of Modern Democracy. For the moment we'll hold aside the fact that Ancient Democracy was available only to property-holding males (something the republicans I'm sure would love to bring back). Ancient Democracy was not about getting paid, in salary or in kind; in was civic duty.

    Modern Democracy, at least as practiced in the USA, is all about money. And as has been said about corruption, "...follow the money." Why don't american politicians finally prove that they're not the lords of a corrupt system, but the leaders of a just system and ban soft money.

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    1. Re:Being bought by phantomlord · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ancient Democracy was available only to property-holding males (something the republicans I'm sure would love to bring back

      I bought my house in 1985 and my property taxes totalled about $600 per year. Today, my property taxes are $3800 per year and we've seen double digit increases in our school taxes the last 2 years alone (13% and 11%). Now, the town supervisor decided to approve a new massive low income housing project. These people are generally under educated, obviously don't have much money to contribute to the local economy, are prone to commit property crimes and will bring endless amounts of new kids to our school system while not having to pay a dime in school taxes.

      Yes, I'd like to restrict voting to the people who actually pay taxes (regardless of race, sex or any other factor you want to accuse me of being evil for), otherwise, you have vast amounts of uneducated people voting with the wallets of other people. It's very easy to spend someone else's money, especially when you're taking their money to benefit yourself.

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    2. Re:Being bought by Orne · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What? How does Flamebait like this get marked positive?

      It's funny that the Democratic party is historically more pro-Slavery compared to the Republican party... but I guess that if you don't like history, you get the schools and mass media to revise it until "history" is in your party's favor...

      And I agree, I'd love to ban soft money. Let's all bitch about the party of "big business"... So what if Democrats are more dependant on (unregulated) Soft Money contributions than Republicans (Democrats: 61% of their overall funds in soft money, up from 47 percent two years ago. Republicans: 43% of their funds in soft money, increase of 8%).

      Since the start of our american congress in 1789, congress has always been paid for participating. You will also find that even the Ancient Democracies had salaries ... the example you are thinking of is the Carthaginian model, which was an oligarchy... the rich became senators, because only they could afford to serve for no pay, which shut out the poor from serving in government. Even Aristotle recognized the flaw in this method of governing. I would say then that paying our congressment is definitely the correct method in equalizing who can participate in government.

      I would argue that it is not the money that is the problem in our governments, instead the problem is with (1) the philosophies and (2) the beaurocracies of those involved. I have a problem with people who have no regard for other people's money, and do not have the personal restraint when it comes to spending it. This philosophy of socialism has morphed our government into asset reallocation, something the creators of the system never approved of. On top of that, there is so much redundancy, waste, and unaccountability... but we know that already.

  19. These are the people to watch by Featureless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Very smart.

    The author does an excellent job of synthesizing a number of disparate, troubling issues going on in our society at the moment into a very coherent whole.

    If you can understand that democracies are only as good as their voters' information systems, or that markets are only as healthy as the exchange of goods, services, and ideas in them is free, then you should be able to appreciate where the author is going.

    The reason esoteric issues like telecom and media regulation, and intellectual "property" law end up commanding such a large amount of attention in the community is because both of these, people are realizing, are not just important, but absolutely essential, to maintaining those very important American principles.

    A cheap, ubiquitous communications medium. The free flow of information which respects, but it is not outrageously hobbled by, the rights of authors... It's only our economy, and our democracy, at stake.

    I think we need a galvanizing issue. I suggest Saving the Net. To do that, we need to treat the Net as two things:

    1. a public domain, and therefore
    2. a natural habitat for markets

    In other words, we need to see the Net as a marketplace that has done enormous good, is under extreme threat and needs to be saved.

  20. Conspiracy vs Greed by dpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I once told a friend, "There is far more Stupidity than Evil in the world."

    I have since unfortunately found the corollary, "Sufficient Stupidity combined with enough Power is effectively indistinguishable from Evil."

    Something like that applies here, "Sufficient Greed combined with enough Power/Wealth can effect the appearance of a Conspiracy."

    Think "Greedy Lemmings," and it can look like a Conspiracy.

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  21. In defense of "conservatives"... by Ethelred+Unraed · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...while I'm more or less a liberal (in the old-style Jeffersonian or European sense) and nearly always vote for Democrats, this particular comment struck me as unfair to conservatives and their ilk:

    The other [factor] is the high regard political conservatives hold for successful enterprises. Combine the two, and you get conservatives eagerly rewarding companies whose primary achievements consist of successful long-term adaptation to highly regulated environments. That's what's happened with broadcasting and telecom.

    Lest we forget, it is actually the Democratic Party that is more in the pocket of Hollywood and the media companies, while the Republican Party tends to favor "big business" in general. Both parties have their share of guilt in all this mess. The DMCA was passed with bipartisan (i.e. substantial Democratic) support and was signed into law by a Democrat (Clinton). Trial and IP lawyers also tend to support the Democrats (cf. John Edwards). (Over-)deregulation of the media and telecoms industries took place largely during the Clinton Administration (though it started in the first Bush Administration).

    I seriously doubt that Howard Dean is any angel on this, either. He's just as much a politician as any other. His rhetoric about being from the "Democractic wing of the Democratic Party" is a little ironic, given that he's against gun control, is hardly a pacifist (he supported Gulf War I and interventions in Bosnia and Kosovo), etc. etc. etc. I don't see him as being a liberal at all (neither in the modern "leftist" sense nor in the older Jeffersonian sense), but an opportunist like any other.

    FWIW given my own political positions I'll probably be voting for "anything but Dubya", but I dislike the idolizing that Dean has been benefitting from of late. And I also dislike disingenuous attacks on one party or the other...

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

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    1. Re:In defense of "conservatives"... by RatBastard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem here is that you are equating "liberal" with "Democrat" and "conservative" with "Republican". While this may be true for the moment, it's not 100% accurate. There is a fairly large difference between liberals and conservatives. There is almost no difference between Democrats and Republicans, save whom exactly they are beholding to.

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  22. Proprietary Linux? by thoolihan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the article: And I'm hearing from people who insist that Linux is not exactly ownerless, either. "Linux is a registered Trademark of Linus Torvalds" appears on 268,000 Web documents, Google tells me. In at least one sense, these folks say, Linus owns Linux. That means it is, in a limited sense, proprietary.

    This should really be corrected. The trademark is simply on the name. You can't go write your own software and call it Linux. But the software and code is as far from proprietary as you can get. If Linus started wrecking Linux with patches, you could take the code, rename it, and have your own kernel. This guy should RTFL (license) before he writes an article.

    -t

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  23. Nobody cares by raw-sewage · · Score: 3, Informative
    The article quotes John Bloom as saying the following. The big media companies, holding the copyrights of dead authors, have said, in effect, that Jefferson, Madison, and Hamilton were wrong and that we should go back to the aristocratic system of hereditary ownership, granting copyrights in perpetuity.

    As another poster pointed out, it's plain and simple greed. The big media companies want perpetual copyright so they can continue to milk those works as long as possible. Copyright to a media company is the same as a manufacturing company's raw materials or even inventory. Manufacturing organizations are taxed on their inventory; if the big media companies want to own all that copyright, they should be taxed on it.

    The real issue here is that the overwhelming majority of people at large are not aware of these issues. Anyone attempting to educate the masses on such things are immediately shut out as hippie radicals. The only people really working at these issues are the ones who stand to make a profit on them (i.e. the big media companies). Those same people working relentlessly for profit via copyright are the ones who are so quick to equate Linux, open source, anything public domain, etc to communism.

    The cruel irony here is that the very people who label public domain as communism are the same people who are robbing our freedoms.

    Sigh. Linux and the Internet were great while they lasted.

  24. Conservative? by Drachemorder · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Liberals often are flummoxed by the way conservatives seem to love big business (including, of course, big media). Yet the reason is simple: they love winners, literally. They like to reward strength and achievement. They hate rewarding weakness for the same reason a parent hates rewarding kids' poor grades. This, more than anything else, is what makes conservatives so radically different from liberals. It's why favorite liberal buzzwords like "fairness" and "opportunity" are fingernails on the chalkboards of conservative minds. To conservatives, those words are code-talk for punishing the strong and rewarding the weak."

    I'm a hardcore conservative, and I'm not sure how much I agree with this definition. To my way of thinking, it's not a matter of "rewarding the strong". It's a matter of incentive --- if people are going to be taken care of no matter whether or not they do any useful work, they simply aren't likely to do any useful work. It's more a matter of rewarding effort than of rewarding strength. Granted, there are some serious problems with the way capitalism works too, and it does often turn out that the "stronger" ones do better. But I think that's the nature of freedom. You can't truly have freedom without the possibility of great success or great failure.

    On a side note, as a conservative, I'm very strongly against the modern notion of "intellectual property". I'm all for property rights, capitalism, and the free market. But as the article mentions, copyright isn't a property right and shouldn't be treated as one. I believe in the Constitution above everything else, as far as politics go. And in the thinking of the founders, copyright cannot be a property right. Property is a right that the founders envisionsed as being inherent to mankind --- right up there with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Rights like that cannot be infringed by the state. They are not granted by the state. They are inherent to the people. But, the Constitution allows Congress to GRANT and LIMIT copyright. If copyright were an inherent right, they would have protected it as such --- they certainly wouldn't have given Congress the authority to "grant" it. Therefore I must conclude that the notion of "intellectual property" is thoroughly unconstitutional, and thus I cannot support it.

    1. Re:Conservative? by veddermatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The difference is that the phone systems "content" is generated at both ends in real time, then goes away, except in rare cases like movie-phone and stuff like that.

      Internet content is generated and stored "somewhere" by "someone" and then is accessed by anyone at any time after that, which then makes the "something" akin to property.. who owns the content? Who is allowed to access the "somewhere" that it is stored? Who decides what "someones" are allowed to store content?

      These are the issues at stake / conention I think.

      Then again, I did smoke a lot of crack for breakfast.

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  25. But isn't the phone system also end to end? by desslok · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the article:

    Worse, [the Internet] was designed as an end-to-end system, where all the power to create, distribute and consume are located at the ends of the system and not in the middle.

    The Net's end-to-end nature is so severely anathema to cable and telco companies that they have done everything they can to make the Net as controlled and asymmetrical as possible.


    But the phone system is also end-to-end in nature. Cable and telco companies know they are just selling access, same as they sell access to the phone system or the cable system (most cable providers produce little by way of content; that's left to people like USA Networks and HBO.)

    I think the situation at the telcos and cablecoms is far more complicated than how the author protrays. Witness the trouble Verizon took recently to block the subpoena of a customer whom the RIAA wanted. And one of the megacorps is Sony who both sells music and produces devices to copy that music.

  26. Bringing it all together by sam_handelman · · Score: 3, Funny

    News from the future:
    July 23rd, 2008

    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    In a landmark decision, the Supreme Court today upheld the Pre-emptive Piracy Prevention Act (PPPA), which gave the private armies employed by the sole remaining media corporation the power to declare and pursue war against individuals on US soil - who can then be designated as "enemy combatants" and tried by military tribunals created by our glorious leader, Grand Marshall Rupert Murdoch.

    Omnimedia spokesmen hailed the ruling, calling it a victory for intellectual property rights, and saying that it vindicated their use of nuclear weapons against the city of Palo Alto, where their intelligence indicated that the source of all the world's pirated content, the so-called "Universal Inserter," was hiding.

    Mere minutes after the blast, the Universal Inserter uploaded an illegal copy of Charlice's new video (purchase a license to view title) [goatse.cx], to his partner in crime, the Universal Downloader. Experts believe the upload is genuine.

    The attorney representing the Universal Inserter, Stanford Professor Lawrence Lessig, who has drawn considerable controversy for refusing to acknowledge that his client even exists, was unavailable for comment as he is being held on charges of aiding and abetting the enemy at the Omnimedia detention center in Gautonomo Bay.

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  27. Geeks only think about one thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A hurricane came unexpectedly. The ship went down and was lost. A man found himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other people, no supplies, nothing. Only bananas and coconuts.
    Used to 5-star hotels, this guy had no idea what to do, so for the next four months he ate bananas, drank coconut juice and longed for his old life and fixed his gaze on the sea, hoping to spot a rescue ship.
    One day, as he was lying on the beach, he spotted movement out of the corner of his eye. It was a rowboat, and in it was the most gorgeous woman he had ever seen. She rowed up to him and in disbelief, he asked her:

    "Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

    "I rowed from the other side of the island," she said. "I landed here when my cruise ship sank."

    "Amazing," he said. "I didn't know anyone else had survived. How many are there? You were lucky to have a rowboat wash up with you."

    "It's only me, "she said, "and the rowboat didn't wash up; nothing did."

    He was confused. "Then how did you get the rowboat?"

    "Oh, simple, " replied the woman. "I made the rowboat out of materials that I found on the island. The oars were whittled from Gum tree branches. I wove the bottom from palm branches and the sides and stern came from a Eucalyptus tree."

    "B-B-But that's impossible," stuttered the man. "You had no tools or hardware. How did you manage?"

    "Oh, that was no problem," replied the woman. "On the other side of the island there is a very unusual stratum of alluvial rock exposed. I found that if I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into forgettable ductile iron. I used that for tools, and used the tools to make the hardware. But enough of that," she said. "Where do you live?"

    Sheepishly, he confessed that he had been sleeping on the beach the whole time.

    "Well, let's row over to my place, then," she said. After a few minutes of rowing she docked the boat at a small wharf. As the man looked to the shore he nearly fell out of the boat. Before him was a stone walk leading to an exquisite bungalow painted in blue and white. While the woman tied up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, the man could only stare ahead, dumb struck. As they walked into the house, she said casually:

    "It's not much, but I call it home. Sit down, please; would you like a drink?"

    "No, no thank you," he said, still dazed. "I can't take any more coconut juice."

    "It's not coconut juice," the woman replied. "I have a still. How about a Pina Colada?"

    Trying to hide his amazement, the man accepted, and they sat down on her couch to talk.

    After they had exchanged their stories, the woman announced, "I'm going to slip into something comfortable. Would you like to take a shower and shave? There is a razor upstairs in the cabinet in the bathroom."

    No longer questioning anything, the man went into the bathroom. There in the cabinet was a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to a hollow ground edge were fastened onto it's end inside a swivel mechanism. "This woman is amazing," mused. "What next?"

    When he returned, she greeted him wearing nothing but vines - strategically positioned - and smelling faintly of gardenias. She beckoned for him to sit down next to her.

    "Tell me, " she began, suggestively, slithering closer to him, "we've been out here for a very long time. You've been lonely. There's something I'm sure you really feel like doing right now, something you've been longing for all these months. You know..." She stared into his eyes.

    He couldn't believe what he was hearing. "You mean--?" he replied...... "You mean.....I can check my e-mail from here?"

  28. Re:Visible spectrum links through the air? by femto · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Typically beams will be too high for people to reach.

    The rate of variation in amplitude of sunlight is very low and PIN diodes are very linear over wide dynamic ranges. The frequency of amplitude variation for the data signal is very high (say > 1MHz) compared to sunlight. Combining all of the above, it is usually possible to highpass filter to remove the effects of sunlight.

    In addition, the power spectral density of a laser compares welll with the sun.

  29. sorry mr. jones by koekepeer · · Score: 2, Funny

    but my experience with PhD's tells me that intelligence and possesing a PhD does not neccesarily correlate.

    with me it does of course ;)

  30. Re:Howard Dean by Toasty981 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about the innocents killed by execution? Is that not a problem? How about the fact that it merely sets up the state as a band of murderous thugs? How about the fact that, at the end of the day, it just kills another person and therefore doesn't genuinely solve anything?


    Innocent people killed by execution is a huge problem, but there are countless cases where there is no question that the convict is the perpetrator. In those cases, I support the death penalty.

    I respect people that are opposed to execution on moral grounds, but IMO tolerating murder by letting killers live is just as bad as "being a band of murderous thugs". It's just too bad the system is so wasteful on resources that a killer can appeal appeal appeal for years and drain money .

    At the end of the day, it kills another person who has no value to humanity. Good riddance to them. (And hey, it clears prison space, which I'm sure the RIAA would love to put to use.)

    However, I agree with you about hard labor. But it will never happen...the ACLU or some other bleeding-heart organization and assert prisoners' rights to watching TV and living rather comfortably on taxpayer dollars.

  31. Re:The internet the big corporation way by fishbowl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >The internet is the voice of the people

    But it's only the voice of the people who have access to things like electricity, telecommunications infrastructure, etc.

    It falls short of being of much value to all the people who don't have those thing (refrigeration, plumbing, surplus food, literacy... much less home computers and cable modems...)

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  32. Who is Allowed to Own the Property? by jimsum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the situation is even worse than the author describes. The media companies are turning copyright into a property right, which is bad enough, but they are also ensuring that they don't actually transfer any property rights when you buy from them.

    They are setting up a sort of feudal system, where they own all the property, and we are merely serfs who get to pay rent to access the property.

    It is important to restore some balance in the copyright law between the public and the media companies; but I think it is equally important to define what property rights (i.e. fair use rights) consumers have when they buy a CD or a DVD.

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  33. Not every citizen is fit to vote by ShatteredDream · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Much of our society is not fit to vote. They don't pay attention to the issues, they don't critically think about what they see and hear and they sure as hell don't have enough passion to keep a fire lit under our leaders' asses. Giving every tom, dick, harry, jane and sally the right to vote is the perfect way to guarantee that you will have a government that does represent us. "Swing voters" are only at best about 20% of the electorate, the rest are pretty much 50/50 both major parties. If we could get rid of the other 80%'s right to vote then we'd have an electorate filled mostly with at a minimum semi-critical thinkers.

    It's taboo to say that just because you're a citizen doesn't mean you are fit to wield any form of political power. Of course it all goes back to the inability of most Americans to pass a moral judgement against someone's behavior and beliefs. How often do we hear "well that's their culture and it's just different from ours?" I'm in college and I hear that all the time. I get a look of utter disgust like I'm a member of the KKK when I suggest that not everyone is biochemically equal and that certain cultural practices are barbaric and worthy of our deepest contempt. When I criticized many African and Middle Eastern countries for tolerating female circumcision I got a little bit of "how dare you criticize Africa you honkey" from some of the blacks there.

    You want to get rid of corruption? It won't end with banning soft money. You have many reforms needed on top of that.

    1) Make it a class 4-6 felony to give soft money. You know what that felony class range is? Around 10 years to life as possible sentences.
    2) Pass a constitutional amendment waiving 8th amendment protection for those attempting to corrupt the government so that if you catch a lobbyist trying to bribe someone you can execute them if they are a repeat offender. Waive the same protection for elected and appointed government officials
    3) Allow each state to pass its own ethics rules. Allow each state to issue a warrant for the arrest of a member of Congress from their delegation who has violated their rules. Also give the state police the power to place their member of Congress under arrest anywhere in the US and extradite them to their state for criminal prosecution.
    4) Give each state legislature the power to pass a vote of no confidence in their congressional delegation.
    5) Create a new form of impeachement for the executive branch where if a simple majority of state legislatures pass a vote of no confidence in a member of the cabinet they're out and if 2/3 or more vote on the President he's removed.
    6) Since we're also talking about democratic reforms how about we pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting judges from ordering appropriations of taxpayer money and creating public policy. They can rule it unconstitutional, but not create it.

  34. Linux propietary? by Xabraxas · · Score: 2, Informative
    And I'm hearing from people who insist that Linux is not exactly ownerless, either. "Linux is a registered Trademark of Linus Torvalds" appears on 268,000 Web documents, Google tells me. In at least one sense, these folks say, Linus owns Linux. That means it is, in a limited sense, proprietary.

    This statement is ludicrous. Linus owns the name Linux, not the operating system. There is a very big difference. He owns none of the code. He only has control over what can be called Linux. So far he seems to have been pretty lenient with that trademark as there are over a hundred distros and most, if not all of them, use the word Linux in some part of their name.

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  35. Try RONJA by tonywestonuk · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://ronja.twibright.com/

    (Exactly what you were talking about!)

    Tony.

  36. Ludicrous? by pretty_penguin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This may sound a bit like communism to conservative sensibilities, unless it is made clear that the Net belongs to that class of things (gravity, the core of the Earth, the stars, atmosphere, ideas) that cannot be owned and even thinking about owning it is ludicrous.

    Ludicrous? Tell that to those guys who'll sell you plots on the moon and the planets in our solar system.

    Apparently they just said 'all of that is ours' and it now actually is because no one complained (check the FAQ).

    Finally, a note from the company's self-proclaimed Head Cheese: At the time if the writing of this news letter I need to let all of you know I have been presented a wonderful acknowledgment from the Congress of the United States. I have been named co-chairman of the Republican Congressional Business Advisory Council. I have also been given the National Republican Leadership Award and most recently I have been issued the highest honor the National Republican Congressional Committee has, the prestigious Republican Gold Medal.

  37. Disagree Strongly by thePancreas · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If you're greedy, you vote democrat - that's how you get entitlements that you're not entitled to, and tax refunds where you never paid any taxes

    Now Now! No reason to get all neo-con counterintuitive on us. Yes the Dems gave out some cash to some welfare cases, Yes those welfare cases probably are still welfare cases. Did those cases get rch of this money? No.

    Do all people benefit when neo-cons give out tax breaks that benefit the super rich most of all, welllll that's tough to say, but essentially the answer is: no

    the rich are getting rich, the middle class are now the working poor. And the dirt poor? They reap the HUGE benefit of a cheque for a hundred bucks from the Dems by accident.

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    1. Re:Disagree Strongly by HiThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, but though he overstates the case (a tiny bit), he's essentially correct. Jobs that used to be held by skilled labor are increasingly either de-skilled (an then offered for effectively less than minimum wage) or exported.

      Effectively less than: If you hire a person for only a short time, you don't need to pay any benefits. There are many approaches to doing this, and they are currently an area of fertile research. Many companies, however, have decided that the best approach is to make the job so unpleasant that nobody can stand to work there for more than three months.

      Exporting jobs: what's to say. Read yesterday's news from IBM.

      This doesn't need to happen to all jobs. Even having it happen to a significant number drives down the wages for ALL jobs. I consider myself quite lucky, but this doesn't blind me to the lot of others.

      Do some calculations on a spreadsheet to see how bad it is in your area. You need some numbers:
      1) the monthly cost of a cheap apartment
      2) the hourly rate at the minimum wage
      3) an estimated REALLY CHEAP clothing budget
      4) a really cheap budget for food
      5) forget about health care. Let them hope there's a free clinic.
      6) forget about dentists. Let them hope they don't have any trouble.
      (etc.)

      Now calculate the minimal monthly expenses for one single person.
      Divide by the hourly rate.
      How many hours do you need to work to earn the minimal budget?
      Now figure in taxes, and repeat the calculation.

      Now try to estimate how to make it work with a dependant child.

      Did you notice that I still haven't included transportation?

      Perhaps housing is cheaper in your area. In my area even housing used over 70 hours/week just by itself.

      Now it's also true that many jobs pay more than minimum wage, but no rate that's even close to that could be considered adequate by a civilized society.

      Do you know the meaning of "employed at will"? Imagine that you are in this kind of an economic bind, and you have a dependant child. Now imagine that your boss asks you for something that you consider repugnant or immoral...

      This situation is nearly guaranteed to lead to abuses. And it does.

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  38. I really liked that article.. by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not about politics. At least not as how we normally think about it.

    The idea that "property" is the one all-consuming right that we have, quite frankly is self-destructive. Sure, property is important...but copyright is exactly that. IP is bullshit.

    To go a step further, the reason for this is the belief that we can all "do it ourselves". That somehow, we can pull ourselves up from the bootstraps and make ourselves successful is frankly...bullshit.

    There are more important things than business, and money and profit.

    Culture and society.

    Those are the most important things we have. Without those things, everything else is meaningless. We need to start to realize that.

    I agree with a limited copyright. My idea? Copyright should last for 20 years, or until the commercial aspect is gone. If you take something off the market, put it in the public domain. Allow those that care about the culture to nurture it.

    They are conservative ideas however. One of the problem is that nobody can refute them in the current political enviroment. Make a sneeze toward it and you called a commie.

    How can you fix it?

    I don't know..

  39. Re:Egads by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    You fool! He's a Libertarian, not a liberal. Get it right: Conservatives worship Satan; Liberals defend their right to do it; Libertarians don't care if they do it, as long as they do it over there.

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  40. Not for long... by griblik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently Orrin Hatch is trying to change that.

    About time too. Who needs to send troops to 'liberate' a foreign country when you can just send the Pres to kick some ass?

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  41. Re:A rebirth by Trigun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rebirth must come via legislation. Any attempts at a rebirth via technology will end up the same way.

    We can run an internet underground, connecting sites via wireless gear, and that would be legislated, not to mention that it does not scale well. We can purchase expensive gear, but we cannot connect it via private lines. We cannot lay fiber or copper. We could buy fibre and copper, but we don't have enough money.
    If I understand what you're talking about, QC runs over the existing infrastructure, and therefore can be regulated. Run wirelessly, all communications are self-regulating. Without substantial infrastructure, planning and money, it will never be more than a pet project.

  42. Most people seem to want it by autechre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's very frustrating for me, and hard for me to understand. To me, the best way to live is to learn as much as you can, and try to find the best choices for yourself by gathering as much information as is possible (or feasible; you don't want to spend 2 hours researching where you will eat lunch today). Art and creation are, I believe, some of the most fun you can have without being naked (not that that's excluded...)

    But a lot of people seem really, truly content with being told what to eat, wear, listen to, drive, vote for, support, etc. There are people who always vote Democrat/Republican without any consideration for the actual candidate. There are people that prefer McDonald's to real food. Most people just do what their friends do, and how did their friends start doing it? What's the source? I guess there's no way to be sure, but I'm betting it was an advertisement.

    Maybe it's because it makes life easy. You listen to music to relax, and thinking about it is too hard. It's easier to watch TV than to read a book. It's easy to enjoy fast food, because it's a collection of chemicals designed to be pleasing to the largest number of people. No dangerous sharp edges for you to beware.

    Similarly, most people don't want to create. Artistic effort is difficult, requiring many hours to produce something. TV can be enjoyed now. Learning how to really cook would be hard, and my family needs dinner today. Hamburger Helper is good enough. It was a hard day at work and I have a lot on my mind. I don't have time to be creative.

    Now, there's great joy to be had in take-out pizza, beer, and Brotherhood of the Wolf. Some days, it's nice to let someone else take the helm. But Einstein understood that we have to keep our brains moving in new directions in order to keep them alive (he played the violin). If all you do is work and consume, you are a unit. I couldn't stand it.

    (Some people take great joy in their work, which is wonderful, and ideal even. But being one-dimensional is still bad. You'll get further if you stretch your mind in new directions as often as possible; you may be surprised at how related two seemingly dissimilar things really are.)

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  43. The Heart of the Matter, right here... by David+Wong · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the key point from the article, the heart of what's wrong with the anti-IP movement and the Slashdot crowd:

    On such a simple scale, it was clear how the majority of the Court would vote. Not because they are conservative, but because they are Americans. We have a (generally sensible) pro-property bias in this culture that makes it extremely hard for people to think critically about the most complicated form of property out there--what most call "intellectual property." To question property of any form makes you a communist. Yet this is precisely our problem: To make it clear that we are pro-copyright without being extremists either way.

    So deep is this confusion that even a smart, and traditionally leftist, social commentator like Edward Rothstein makes the same fundamental mistake in a piece published Saturday. He describes the movement, of which I am part, as "countercultural," "radical," and anti-corporate. Now no doubt there are some for whom those terms are true descriptors. But I for one would be ecstatic if we could just have the same copyright law that existed under Richard Nixon..."


    Through history the "there should be no such thing as private property!" movement has been driven by those who simply don't have much private property of their own and thus would like some of yours. This is the perception most of the mainstream has of the "it's our right to download movies and software!" crowd; that they simply want something for free because they lack the resources to pay.

    You ask why we middle-Americans side with the big-media companies, but the answer is we don't. We side with the very basic American idea of you not being able to move into my houses with twenty of your hippy friends in the name of "property belongs to everybody!!! Who cares that we didn't build or maintain or earn or buy it!!!"

    Someone will shout back that this isn't the argument of the anti-IP side, and I understand; but that's how it sounds to us. You didn't write or film or fund the movie. So why do you claim a "right" to see it free?

    The author of the article is absolutely right; if you want to win the debate you must make it more about reforming copyright laws to make them more reasonable (the mainstream can get down with that), and less about "YOU EVIL CAPITALISTS DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP ANYTHING TO YOURSELVES WITHOUT SHARING WITH US!!!" The average American will NEVER come over to that side.

    The ability to own property is as fundamental a freedom to this country as free speech or the right to privacy. If you want to change the minds of the masses (and you must if you want the politicians and CEO's to change theirs; bribes or no bribes they will go with the flow of public opinion in order to stay in office) you must re-frame the argument in that way... or watch your movement slowly die as the open-trading technology window closes. And it WILL close.

  44. Re: Piled Higher and Deeper? by Alioth · · Score: 3, Funny

    You do realise that just like BS stands for 'Bullshit', Ph.D. just stands for Piled higher and Deeper?

  45. Re:Howard Dean by Caoch93 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Innocent people killed by execution is a huge problem, but there are countless cases where there is no question that the convict is the perpetrator. In those cases, I support the death penalty.

    And you believe that the State is skilled enough to actually separate the wheat from the chaff? Hah! I, for one, will not take any odds of being a casualty of this system when other alternatives exist.

    I'm curious as to what value you think it serves. I cannot see any real value in the death penalty, and therefore cannot support it in good faith.

    I respect people that are opposed to execution on moral grounds, but IMO tolerating murder by letting killers live is just as bad as "being a band of murderous thugs". It's just too bad the system is so wasteful on resources that a killer can appeal appeal appeal for years and drain money .

    Uhm...how is choosing to not execute a person "tolerating murder"? States without a death penalty generally give those who would be executed a sentence of life without parole. This is hardly tolerance. Consider the alternative of life imprisonment, especially lifelong imprisonment with hard labor as I suggest. This is still, technically, a death sentence. The difference, however, is that the convict's life hasn't been taken, merely his/her liberty. The State doesn't give you life; it does give you liberty. In a case of life imprisonment, especially a harsh one as I believe in, most of the allegedly beneficial aspects of state-sponsored murder are preserved.

    At the end of the day, it kills another person who has no value to humanity. Good riddance to them.

    I really hope you can see what a vacant argument that is, especially when you mix it with your agreement about hard labor. Obviously, you have to recognize that, at a minimum, a living person is a unit of labor. Labor has a value. Regardless of that, though, you seem bound to the assumption that someone who murders is without value to humanity, I guess on the grounds that murder is morally reprehensible and immediately strips you of your value. Surely, then, we should start our condemnation with those who murder and extend it to those who support murder. That's fine. The executioners have their backs to the wall first, followed by their supporters.

    However, I agree with you about hard labor. But it will never happen...the ACLU or some other bleeding-heart organization and assert prisoners' rights to watching TV and living rather comfortably on taxpayer dollars.

    Nobody batted an eye when McVeigh was essentially put in solitary confinement for several years. Clearly, people are able to distinguish between different levels of reprehensibility. I don't care if someone who's in prison for bouncing checks or selling marijuana watches TV and gets protection from violent prisoners. I *want* many of society's criminals rehabilitated so their lives can be of benefit to others (unfortunately, prison rarely rehabilitates). On the other hand, I want those who've violently taken things from others to be forced to serve them. In the case of murder, I believe no amount of labor can truly repay for the damage done, so the only option is to take back as much labor as possible, which is life, without parole, at hard labor.

    I'd also like to add that, as the friend of someone who was thrown in jail merely for wearing the t-shirt of a heavy metal band, I am thankful that the ACLU exists.

  46. ADSL and Eldred Misconceptions by PhoenixRising · · Score: 2, Informative

    The author of the article makes some interesting speculations, but would have been better served by doing some research before waxing philosophical.

    First, at least with DSL, the main reason that it's usually asymmetric in favor of download speed is a technical one -- issues arise with crosstalk. Check out http://www.commweb.com/article/COM20011010S0005 for a more thorough discussion.

    Also, the reason the Supreme Court ruled the way it did in Eldred v. Ashcroft wasn't because of confusion about what kind of right copyright is or anything so abstract. The court said that since the term of copyright enacted by the Sonny Bono CTEA was still limited, it was constitutional. It's not the court's job to decide what length of term is appropriate to protect innovation; that's why Congress was given that charge by the Constitution. If you, like most thinking human beings, don't agree with the copyright term lengths, your representatives are where you should look for relief.

    In short, it seems that much of what the author is attributing to Big Media changing the notion of copyrights and the nature of the 'Net is due to technical concerns of one kind or another. Does that mean the threat isn't there? No, but we're not going to get anywhere by misunderstanding its origins.

  47. greedy? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Republican Party is geared towards saving people money.

    Sounds good so far ... most people consider saving money to be a good thing.

    This is the key issue for Republican politics, regardless of all the morality bullshit they spew.

    Well, if you are immoral, then you don't understand morality. You can't image actually having it, so you impute weird motives instead of just listening to what people say.

    If you're greedy, you vote Republican, whether it's for an end to the estate tax or a $300 tax refund loan.

    How is it greedy to want to save money? Your own money?

    I put in the extra hours, I got the deliverable done on time, I did the work, why shouldn't I keep my money? How is that greedy? I think that coveting other people's money is what is greedy.

    1. Re:greedy? by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I put in the extra hours, I got the deliverable done on time, I did the work, why shouldn't I keep my money? How is that greedy? I think that coveting other people's money is what is greedy

      Funny, i doubt the owners of big companies put in that many extra hours. Hell, a lot of them (take Enron for example) don't even get "the deliverable done on time," or whatever applies for their particular industry, yet they still make million. Even if the company as a whole crashes and burns and the workers all get laid off. Those owners then make huge donations to the Republican party so that they can save even more on the tax cuts the Rebuplicans pass once they're in power.

      And then there are companies like Disney where the controllers who make the millions of dollars pay lobyists or bribe politicians directly to get laws passed that benefit them while hurting smaller independent companies. (How many small companies and how many employees of those companies could be making money right now by re-imagining Mickey Mouse and all the other things that are restricted by the Sonny Bonno Act, in the same way that Disney has made tons of money off of re-imagining Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and dozens of other stories they apropriated from the commons?)

      Those are the people who make the majority of the donations to the Republican cause. In the recent past the Democrats have been trying to emulate that method as well since it worked so well for the Republicans. It seemed that going for the rich who could afford to donate $10,000 or more at a time was more effective. The Democrats were never quite as effective at it though because the rich know who will give them the most return for their bribes.

      How is it greedy to want to save money? Your own money?

      Yes, saving their own money which they made by imorally at the least and illegaly at the worst restricting the rights of others in the same field, or saving their own money through tax cuts that either increase the defecit which hurts everyone, but the rich less so since they just got their tax cut, or increases the tax burden on the middle and lower classes, taking away money from them.

      They want to enjoy the benefits of our society without having to pay to maintain it. Seems greedy to me. Yet somehow they manage to convince everyone that they're just being fair, and all those in the upper-middle class will go along, because it doesn't hurt them to much, and maybe they'll be upper class someday, and the middle and lower classes go along either because they've bought into the "morality" sideline, or because they have dreams of someday being rich and getting to enjoy the same benefits.

      I lose about 30% of every paycheck i get to taxes, yet if i had the chance to vote to reduce it i would not, because i make more than enough to live on, and making someone else pay for my tax cut would be greedy. I felt bad when i spent the $300 i got back through the Bush tax cut, because i felt that america would be worse off in the long run because of it. I might have given it back if it weren't for the fact that i didn't know of any easy way to do so and i knew that the small fraction of people who would do so wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket.

      Of course on the other hand i ended up donating about $250 to my favorite Democratic candidate, so maybe i shouldn't feel too guilty :)

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    2. Re:greedy? by Loundry · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How greedy is it to sit and contemplate whether you are going to have steak or lobster tonite, or whether your kids are going to a private boarding school in connecticut or massachusetts, when there are other people down the street who can barely afford to eat ramen and have no hope of going to college based on their socio-economic background?

      You assume that people who can barely afford to eat are in that place due to no fault of their own. Do you really think that all poor people are victims? Do you really think that none of them are suffering the consequences of their poor decision making?

      Fuck you if you're rich and don't want to pay taxes.

      Thank you for being up front about it. You are not motivated by compassion, reason, or any noble virtue. You are motivated by class envy. You just hate rich people because they have stuff and you don't. But instead of figuring out how to become one of them, you would rather have the government take their money and give it to you.

      At least you have money to pay taxes with.

      It is my money that I worked for and I earned.

      Taxing the wealthy is *not* about punishing them for being wealthy. It is about redistribution of wealth, which is a good thing.

      I disagree. The government officials that favor welfare do not want people who are on welfare to get off welfare. They want welfare recipients to stay welfare recipients forever. Why? Becuase those recipients feel like the government is "taking care of them" and will keep voting for those who will continue the income-redistribution scheme. Let me put it bluntly: welfare is NOT about "helping people". It's about buying votes. Social Security is the same thing. All politicians know that old people vote in well-organized droves. It's for this reason that the "small government" Republicans and Democrats are tripping over each other to provide the better prescription drug benefit income-redistribution scheme. You can call the Republicans misguided, but you can't call them stupid. They know where the votes are.

      Wealthy people do not move the economy, middle class and poor people in massive numbers do.

      The middle class and poor people are looking for jobs. Who employs them?

      If wealthy people pay no or little tax, they continue to get wealthy.

      As if there were something wrong with this.

      When wealthy people amass a fortune and do not have anything to do with it, it's called hoarding (see also "middle ages"). It stagnates the economy and stalls progress.

      I think you would hate the wealthy if they didn't hoard. What if all the wealthy people started spending like crazy? You would hate them because they get to buy all that stuff that you don't get to buy. The point is, they have stuff and you don't, and you hate them for that. Class envy, pure and simple.

      How is coveting other people's money greedy?

      I don't believe in greed. I think it's a sign of immorality that you want money that other people worked for and earned.

      I don't think that's what the poor do, sir. I think the poor covet the chance to eat, not your plasma screen TV.

      Contrary to Leftist faith, "the poor" in this country are not starving. They may not get lobster and foie gras, but they are not starving.

      I think sitting at the top of your world watching pay per view on your plasma screen TV while eating steak in your leather lazyboy chair is greedy.

      Thanks for pointing out that the notion of "greed" is purely subjective. Would it be "greedy" to eat chicken on the leather lazyboy while watching the plasma screen TV? What if we downsize the TV to a 27 inch TV -- is that still "greedy"? What if we turn the leather lazyboy into a folding chair? Is that still "greedy"?

      My annual income is $7,000.

      It shows.

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  48. Not a matter of left vs. right by operagost · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Doc Searls makes the mistake of attempting to blame the problem on a conservative mindset in the entertainment and telecom industries. He rehashes the same old misconception: left=open, right=good old boys club; left=fairness, right=tyranny of the powerful. It's easy to find how this is not true, using his own article. He says how the telecoms are used to operating in a regulated environment. So who regulated the environment, but liberal legislators who wanted to promote (ding, ding, ding) FAIRNESS. If you have a natural monopoly, it's not inherently ILLEGAL. However, trying to ARTIFICIALLY extend the monopoly past its possible lifespan or use your position to gouge customers is not allowed by antitrust laws. He also inexplicably uses a sports metaphor (make it, take it) and makes me wonder if the liberal idea of baskeball would require putting weights on Allan Iverson to make it more "fair". Similarly, he jokingly admits that he'd like to have the same copyright law that existed under Nixon. The irony is that the mess that is our current copyright law was introduced under the Carter administration.

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  49. Thomas Jefferson said ... by Red+Rocket · · Score: 2, Informative

    If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property. Society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them, as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility, but this may or may not be done, according to the will and convenience of the society, without claim or complaint from any body. Accordingly, it is a fact, as far as I am informed, that England was, until we copied her, the only country on earth which ever, by a general law, gave a legal right to the exclusive use of an idea. In some other countries it is sometimes done, in a great case, and by a special and personal act, but, generally speaking, other nations have thought that these monopolies produce more embarrassment than advantage to society; and it may be observed that the nations which refuse monopolies of invention, are as fruitful as England in new and useful devices.

    - Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Isaac McPherson, August 13, 1813

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  50. The War of Information by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not a new concept: whoever controls information outlets controls what the readers of that content see. Ever wonder why there is a King James Version of the Bible? or a New International version? They started from arguments between groups that eventually resulted in new bibles being printed. The same thing happens with movies and music. Anyone over 40 can give you the name of a song they like that got remade recently and an incident where some kid thought the remake was the original, giving credit to the new artist. Or old TV movies/series that get remade to the same effect.

    Every time a new distribution media comes along it is usually controlled easily and readily because startup costs and production tended to be centralized. Publishing companies need printing presses, music and TV need studios, etc. People who want to control the distribution can easily do so by cutting it off or regulating it at the source. Distribution was also easily controlled since transportation cartels tended to be monopolies or oligopolies that would make deals with producers or get taken over by them. Localized distrubitors could be bullied with threats of price wars or bribed with treats of guarenteed monopolies in their area (much as states do with wine distribution contracts these days). Yet the internet is an entirely different entity, in that distributor and publisher have been combined into one and that no one corporation can hope to realistically control even the majority of computer-based infrastructure.

    As with any new medium, test cases arise that will set precedent for how to approach this new medium. Companies with the money are bribing Congressional officials to guarentee their copyrights and change the nature of them from honorable, respectable, limited right to an exact piece material into exclusive right to repress any and every idea even remotely based on the original idea for 75-100 years. Innovation has slowed dramatically as a result, and this would decimate engineering and scientific progress if the same ideas ever became law in those fields. Yet now people can readily copy material and distribute (publish) it with the click of a mouse. There's no time to tax it, regulate it, put it through a middleman, or anything else. Copyright laws were changing even before the internet came about, and music oligopolies were exploiting the populace for decades, but now they can be circumvented with ease. This infuriates the companies since fair-market value for their material turns out to be so much lower than their formerly enforcable prices were. Thus, in a backlash, they now want to charge more to "make up for lost profit" and have Draconian copyrights and copyright enforcement laws to protect their material ad infinitum whether it is justifiable or not.

    What really makes this tricky is that the infrastructure is diverse and the battlefield is international. Laws are limited only to the country they are made in. Ultimately it would take the UN to write legislation for anything realistic to apply to the entire planet, so the companies are going for the next-best thing: arresting or bankrupting anyone in the US involved in "copyright violation" and trying to force other countries to do the same. They do this by threatening trade sanctions by bemoaning their loss of revenues due to "pirates", legitimate or otherwise, and getting pity from some of the populace. It also helps that these same companies also tend to own TV and news stations as well as many congressmen who rely on those sources to get re-elected.

    It will be difficult to fight this war from our end since we lack the resources and congresmen of these giant companies. How do we fight back legally? First, get some like-minded friends together and write your congressmen and see if they won their last election by a thin margin. If they are not solidly rooted in their district, they will very likely listen to what you and your voting friends have to say. Second, if you are not already, get regist

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    1. Re:The War of Information by Zirnike · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Very good synopsis.

      One thing that might be a wrench in the plans is that there's a way for any single country to execute the IP equivilent of mutually assured destruction. You ever read Distraction by Bruce Sterling? Pretty good book... They give as the reason for the collapse of the US economy as being the result of this kind of attack. China decides that IP isn't worth it, and declares that within China, there's no such thing. So you can download any copyrighted work... including games, applications, video, whatever... from Chinese servers. Any company based on IP (Disney, or anything in Hollywood, really, the RIAA members, etc.) would get wiped out by it.

      Sure, they could try to get China off the 'net, but you know the quote: "The internet views censorship as damage and routes around it"

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  51. Microsatellites Are Actually Viable by Vagary · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As many other posters have pointed out, suggesting optical links for anything larger than a LAN party must be a joke (you're not an idiot, right?). A much more reasonable suggestion is the launch of publicly-controlled communications microsatellites.

    Perhaps the launch vehicle could be built on some of that X-Prize technology that keeps generating press-releases. We might actually have to find some radio spectrum a little more useful than the visual range (since it's in space, I assume we only have to worry about interference and not licensing?). But the cost of launching a few satellites that communicate with off-the-shelf minidishes would almost certainly be lower overall than setting up line-of-sight laser connections. And the open source community already knows enough about routing (and is now starting to do hardware projects) that the design is not a major obstacle.

  52. We need a slashdot political "Report Card" by lindner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) Identify core values near and dear to the slashdot crowd (copyright, civil liberties, all that).

    2) Rank each candidate based on their votes and political statements on these core values

    3) Prof^H^H^H^H Publish!

    Seriously, the NRA does it, NARAL does it, lots of groups do it. I await the day when a candidate goes up to the podium and says "Slashdot gives me an A+ rating, vote for me!"

  53. Then let me ask you this: by DG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a Canadian (who works in the US) and I've noted (given my constant exposure to it) that American politics are very, very strange.

    It seems that a large number of Americans see politics as some sort of sport or game, where "our team" plays against "their team" with control of the Presidency, House, Senate etc as both goal and a means of keeping score.

    As such, it seems that many, many voters look straight past the issues, and instead vote for their "team" regardless of the conduct of the actual players.

    A prime example is what happened to Bill Clinton, and what is now (not) happening to Dubya.

    Clinton is an articulate, intelligent man. He is also a known philanderer who had an affair on the job and lied about it. And despite this character flaw, during his two terms as President, the US did pretty well.

    Yet despite his intelligence and demonstrated competance, he and his wife were the targets of levels of harrassment and abuse, orchestrated by "the other side", to a degree that was downright Orwellian. Once the affair (and the subsequent lie) was exposed, he was hauled in front of an impeachement hearing, ostensibly for lying to the American People.

    Now I cannot condone the lie, although I can understand it - the man was trying to protect his private life. Martial fidelity is a deeply personal subject and nobobody wants his dirty laundry aired publically.

    But at the end of the day, the issue of if Clinton had an affair or not, or if he lied about it or not, had zero impact on the type of job he was doing as President.

    But now....

    We have a President who plays for the other team; the team that went to such extrordinary lengths to try and bring down the former President. this President, too, has been caught in a lie, also presented directly to the American people. But unlike the former President's lie, THIS lie was used to justify taking the country to war against another nation. Unlike Clinton's hummer, Dubya's lie about Iraq buying nuclear material resulted in enormous taxpayer expendature and American deaths.

    The latter lie is more serious than the former by several orders of magnitude, but is is going unchallenged, from what I can see because the journalists who should be going after Dubya for his misconduct play for his team.

    If this isn't corruption, I don't know what is.

    So then, I ask you - are you capable of breaking away from your "team" and voting for someone based on concience and consideration of the issues, or are you forever tied to support the candidate with the (R) behind his name?

    DG

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  54. Re:Living wage by bladernr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Jumping in, against my better judgement...

    As a discloser, I am what you would probably classify upper-class (I never can keep it straight). I support tax cuts across the board for people who pay taxes, as a general rule, to stimulate the economy.

    With that said, frankly, the taxes I pay are fair. My tax bracket is the highest, but, due to the magic of tax brackets, my effective tax rate is 26% (people forget that your tax bracket is what you pay on the last dollar you earn, not every dollar you earn). At first glance, you think, "wow, paying a quarter of all you make in taxes." But for it, I get defense, police, roads, etc, etc. Easily worth 25%. Not worth 60%, worth more than 10%. I think the 25% I pay is about right. (I also lean toward a flat-tax, but thats a different argument).

    I am a major believer in free-market economics. You may think this strange, but I support a living-wage. Yes, economically, it skews the labor market. Yes, it sends some jobs oversees (but not service jobs). Yes, regulation is generally bad. Res, yes yes.

    But I grew up in a single-parent family with a mother working 2 minumum wage jobs. She worked very, very hard. She managed money very, very well. I didn't realize how badly out of style her clothes were; she didn't buy ANY new clothes that I can remember. Her kids came first. In short, she did everything right, everything that conservatives support, yet we were still short on money.

    We survived. One Christmas there were no presents for me and my sister. My Mom severly cut her finger and did not go to the hospital; we couldn't afford it. No one should live that way, least of all a single-mother with small children doing everything right.

    It is said that a society can be judged by its treatment of its old, its young, its poor, its sick, and its criminal. Our criminals get great food and healthcare, yet we let hard-working, honest people struggle to merely survive. While economically a bad idea, for shere humanity, we need a living wage law.

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  55. Equal criticism by dachshund · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Senator Hollings is a Democrat. DMCA was signed by a Democrat into law. Mary Bono may be a Republican but only in name.

    Searls seemed quite honest in his article that Democrats are to blame for creating the sick regulatory environment that brought about this mess.

    His point, however, has to do with the here-and-now of a Republican controlled government. What he's saying is that in trying to "dismantle" media regulation in an inept fashion *, Republicans are only allowing its unhealthy spawn to metastasize.

    * Though I would suggest that big-money campaign contributions have as much to do with the flawed deregulation plan as ineptitude.

  56. Perhaps community wireless networks relays may... by romanval · · Score: 2, Insightful

    return us to the that age of localized community forum..

    If enough people within a populated area run an open wireless hub, a community 'freenet' can be built across a small city or town.

  57. Do the math, buddy by dachshund · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Who is not paying their share? Certainly not any taxpayer in the United States

    I don't know where you've been, but we currently have a $450bn projected deficit for the year 2003, and that number may grow to $500bn by the end of the year. This number, along with the trillions of debt that Reagan and Bush created, are essentially a loan taken out in your name, and in the name of every taxpayer in the USA.

    After the Bush tax cut, the rich still pay a much higher percentage and actual amount than the non-rich.

    Ah yes. Because you're one of the millions of people who don't actually look at your paycheck before you cash it. Maybe I can help you, by pointing out the 7.5% Social Security tax that the government withdraws from your check, along with the additional 7.5% that the government demands from your employer (money that you could be getting paid, otherwise.) And even though this isn't "income tax", it's being used to fund the war in Iraq, Congressional Pork, and who knows what else. If it looks like a tax, smells like a tax... Then it's a tax.

    But the great thing about Social Security tax is that you only pay that 15% on the first $88,000 of your income. So under Bush's new tax cuts someone who declares $70,000 of income pays 35.03% of their income to the Federal Government, while someone who makes $1,000,000 pays only 33.81%. So much for fair.

    And that's without any fancy deductions, which the wealthier earner will almost certainly be better able to take advantage of. Ask George Bush, who only paid 29% in 1999, on $900,000 worth of income. It's without counting the dividend and capital gains tax cuts which are likely to disproportionately benefit the wealthier person (I don't ever make more than a few hundred per year in dividends.)

    Basically, anyone who believes this shit is pulling out their wallet and handing it over to someone who makes more than 10 times what they do. They're doing this, while our budget bleeds, because they think it's "fair"-- though they obviously haven't done the math. They're doing this because they feel that making the wealthy wealthier will somehow help our economy, when the problem currently on the demand side, eg it's people like the middle class and working class that we need to have extra cash to burn.

    And somehow, the Republican Party is able to raise ever larger amounts of money. Hmm. I wonder where it's coming from. Basically, if you believe any of this is right, just or fair, then you're a sucker.

  58. Tonight on Slashdot: more socialist propaganda. by rjh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How greedy is it to sit and contemplate whether you are going to have steak or lobster tonite, or whether your kids are going to a private boarding school in connecticut or massachusetts, when there are other people down the street who can barely afford to eat ramen and have no hope of going to college based on their socio-economic background?

    It's not greedy at all. Take my father as an example--he was born dirt-poor in the sticks of small-town Iowa. He's worked 60-hour weeks ever since he was fifteen years old, save for his law school days, when he was only working 40s so he could "concentrate on school". Once in his life he took a two-week vacation--for his honeymoon--but other than that, he's only taken a maximum of ten days. He joined the Army partially to help cover his college debts; and today he's a respected, esteemed, semi-retired member of the bar... and wealthy.

    So. How greedy is it for Dad, who's worked 60-hour weeks for the last fifty years, to say "you know, I want to eat lobster tonight"? I think the man's entitled to it. Of course, you, who know how to spend Dad's money better than he does, and who obviously know how hard Dad has worked for it, have different ideas of what Dad is entitled to.

    There's that word, "entitlement". Oooh. Bogeyman. The left thinks the right is allergic to it, that the right wants to shut down all entitlements. Nothing is further from the truth. Conservatives believe there are very few entitlements; the rest is just wishful thinking of the way the world should be.

    You're entitled to liberty--entitled to make your own decisions for yourself, not having them imposed upon you by the government. This includes the liberty of making your own economic decisions.

    You're entitled to work as hard as you like, or as little as you like. Nobody's cracking a whip over your shoulders. Don't want to work? Don't have to work. Want to work hard? You can work hard.

    You're entitled to the fruits of your labors. What you build with your own two hands, you're entitled to own. And you can trade this entitlement--remember the "entitled to economic liberty" thing?--in a fair marketplace; if you want to take RIAA's money and give them the fruits of your labor, you can. The government's not forcing you to do it, nor is it forcing you not to do it.

    Those are entitlements, and they all stem from the same basic entitlement: human beings are entitled to political and economic liberty. Everything else that gets swept under the rubric of "entitlement" is just people desperately wishing the world was otherwise than it was.

    You have no entitlement to take my money out of my pocket to engage in your own private "redistribution of wealth" schemes. That's not liberty; that's tyranny. That's you making these decisions for me. You can try it if you like, but expect to get socked in the jaw. I don't give a damn about the money; money is a whore. I give a damn about your attempt at turning me into your slave.

    If you make $500,000/yr and the government wants 30%, you aren't starving.

    In the dot-com boom I was getting paid $100,000 a year. By your logic I was living on easy street, right? The reality is I got evicted from my apartment and was homeless in my car for a few days. Let's look at the math:

    From a starting salary of $100,000, take away $50,000 right off the top between California and Federal income taxes. Wham--presto--gone.

    From the $50,000 left, take away $36,000 for rent. I was living in a one-bedroom garret in San Francisco and property values were so overinflated that I was paying $3,000 a month just in rent.

    From the $14,000 left, take away $3,000 for utilities. California power crisis is a bitch, don't you know.

    From the $11,000 left, take away $6,000 for car payments on a five-year-old used car.

    From the $5,000 left... that's what you have to live on for a year. That has to put gas in the car, that has to put money