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iTunes: Don't Leave Home With Them

BadDoggie writes "Politech is reporting that your 'ownership' of music purchased from Apple's iTunes isn't what everyone considers ownership. According to the license, 'Apple may use technologies to verify' that you have not 'use[d] or attempt[d] to use the service from outside of the [United States]'. This includes Canada. Apple's 'technologies' delete the bought-and-paid-for files with no refund and no replacement when & if you leave the U.S." Update: 07/25 16:23 GMT by P : The post to Politech says the songs would "disappear," not be deleted; from the context, it seems they were merely unplayable, not deleted. Update: 07/25 21:34 GMT by M : Apple has contacted the guy, and is apparently making him happy. However, the question remains: Apple definitely doesn't want people buying new songs from outside the U.S., but do they intend to generally permit foreign users to reauthorize (in effect, retain access to) the songs they have already purchased? Apple's policy is very unclear on that point.

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  1. Let's not mangle the license... by Yosho · · Score: 5, Informative
    How about quoting what it really says?

    Purchases from the iTunes Music Store are available only in the United States and are not available in any other location. You agree not to use or attempt to use the service from outside of the available territory. Apple may use technologies to verify such compliance.

    All this is saying is that you may not use the iTunes service outside the US. This is likely not of their own choice, but because of agreements with the record labels that restrict them to distribution in the US.

    Furthermore, it says nothing like, "Apple's 'technologies' delete the bought-and-paid-for files with no refund and no replacement when & if you leave the U.S." You're welcome to listen to your music anywhere you please. Read in the proper context, "Apple may use technologies to verify such compliance," obviously means that if Apple detects you using the iTunes service from outside the US, they'll stop you. Is that so harsh?
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  2. Canada ... by s20451 · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to this article: "Canada will be added to the Apple system when the CRIA completes its negotiations in the fall"

    CRIA = Canadian Recording Industry Association.

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  3. not quite what the title says by raptor21 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The author of the article claims he reinstalled his powerbook. And tried to redownload his purchased songs after changing his address permantly on both his credit card and iTunes to an outside US address.

    Well that doesn't say apple will suddenly disable all your music files if you step out of US soil for say a week or a month.

    Apple'sn policies clearly state that you may only purchase songs in the US.

  4. Shawn Yeager worked for Microsoft and MusicDirect by davids-world.com · · Score: 5, Informative
    The critique may be acceptable (music label's haven't arrived in the global economy/international culture yet), but Shawn Yeager's motivation is possibly not.

    The guy that complains about Apple's restrictice licenses not only USED TO WORK FOR MICROSOFT, he also developed MusicDirect.com, a direct competitor to the iTunes Store. (Read it yourself on his Home page.

    As the french say: honi soit qui mal y pense. ("shamed be he who thinks evil of it")

  5. Re:No GPS please by paradesign · · Score: 5, Informative

    um... iTunes allows you to burn your files to CD, all, even 'officially' downloaded ones. so jsut buy, burn and delete. if you want it back DRM free, rip it to MP3, you can do that through iTunes quite easily.

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  6. This makes sense by holt · · Score: 5, Informative

    He tried to reauthorize the songs after his billing address has changed to outside the US. If you have a US address, you're fine, no matter where your computer sits. How do I know? I studied in Ireland during the last school year, and I downloaded a number of songs from iTMS, using my US-based credit card with my US-based address.

    The moral? The license agreement says you aren't to export the songs. This has nothing to do with DRM - it would still be a breach of contract (thus revoking your license to use the songs) to export the songs even if iTMS was giving you straight MP3s.

  7. Re:Heres a question. by Malcolm+MacArthur · · Score: 5, Informative
    And now the real-kicker (at least for me), where's the compensation for the artist? Nope, I'll stick with buying cd's at concerts, it's not a good option, but it's the smallest evil option
    Not really, because a lot of bands have to actually buy their CDs from the record company to sell at concerts. And they don't get them wholesale price either...

    Dang, there goes my chance to moderate :(