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Growth Job Sector: Freelance Technical Support

An anonymous reader wrotes: "Over at World New York, they've posted excellent advice to the geek masses: If you're out of work and know how to use a computer, you can make a killing doing freelance technical support." Update: 07/25 20:00 GMT by M : The author has asked that we link to the article on homepage.mac.com due to server overload. :)

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  1. Liability by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's too much of a liability. Trust me, I know. I almost got sued because some ladies drive physically crashed after I worked on her Windowz problems (spyware locking up PC). So even if you have them sign a before and after contract, just the rigamaroll of having to go through all that is a pain in the ass. No thank you, I would have to be incorporated with a few other people. This is NOT something you want to do by yourself.

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  2. Free Lance Technical Support? by ambisinistral · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Isn't that what boobs that are a few credits short of a Community College degree and badly printed business cards have been trying to do for years?

    That market is saturated pretty bad if you ask me.

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    1. Re:Free Lance Technical Support? by zulux · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Isn't that what boobs that are a few credits short of a Community College degree and badly printed business cards have been trying to do for years?

      That's me.

      Except that some of my clients have grown, and my business has grown with it. In 7 years we went from

      Me - fixing windows 95 CD-ROM drivers.

      to

      Me and four other people - making accounting packages with PostgreSQL and XUL, installing OpenBSD firewalls/WAN, FreeBSD file-servers, making KDE apps that are served with Linux, and all sorts of other fun stuff.

      All the while making a shit-load of money.

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  3. Yup by grub · · Score: 4, Interesting


    That's how I got my current job ~2 years ago. Configuring 2 Cisco PIX firewalls on a contract basis. Now I'm full time and love it.

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  4. Mmm, freelance! by Emperor+Tiberius · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I used to do this for almost two years, before I started working for an ISP. I charged a nice $20 dollars an hour deal, with extra charges for hardware replacement, software installation. My little business was able to "boom" simply because I was cheaper. All the freelance techs out there now think, "Hey, I'm so 'elite' I can charge $75 an hour!" Wrong.

    I would see signs/ads, everywhere (literally), begging to have people hire them at prices that reached into the hundreds per hour. I'm a simple guy, without too many expenses, I buy a ton of games, and for me, $20 dollars an hour was great. I got to choose my own hours, and make myself profitable.

    As for the "idiots to techs" ratio question, some people obviously haven't worked in the tech field [long enough]. Until the day they make a computer completely crash/idiot-proof, there will always be a need for a technician.

    My two cents...

    1. Re:Mmm, freelance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      For Unix System Admin work I charge a rate of $200 per day. Sometimes those "days" are a 3 hour visit, but sometimes they are a 16 hour marathon.

      But I would never work for the big companies. My largest customer is a 4 person LLC, my second largest a dentist partnership.

  5. Re:I'd rather by ishpeck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Technical support is a draining experience. I worked in techsupport for a while. The company I worked for had a 110% turn-over rate for employees. If they needed 20 people to keep the call-floor running, they would hire 22 people every quarter to keep up with the amount of quitting that happened: It's that miserable listening/talking-to people who are predisposed to hate everything related to computers (including you).

    You can make a killing in tech support -- assuming you don't kill yourself before your first paycheck.

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  6. Re:slashdotted already by banky · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's "subscriber-dotted" now.

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  7. Everybody is already doing this by poffenvis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With so many thousands of fellow geeks out of work already for the last couple of years, this market is already saturated.
    Besides, people aren't willing to pay the amount of money it takes to take care of stoopid Windoze problems- a reload on an average system can take 4-6 hours (with backups, new drivers, etc.)
    Hard to get more than a couple systems a day through, then you've got to figure on all the time and energy spent on trying to get clients.

    I'm making more money (sadly enough) as a convenience store manager than as a geek nowadays.

    And now, as well, with even programming jobs being shopped overseas, the market for geek skills is even tougher.

    Changing careers may be a better option than chasing after elusive (and non-existant) tech money.

    peace,
    r.

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  8. Re:Only in theory... by MidKnight · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Here's a relevant quote for you, then:
    • "No one in this world ... has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. "
    - H.L. Mencken

    Remember, this is the general public that doesn't understand why a monopoly in general-use operating systems is a Bad Thing (tm). Yeah, that's right... I had to throw some anti-Microsoft sentiment into this, so sue me.

    --Mid

  9. Ive been doing this for quite some time. by 222 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Im sure the majority of /. readers have done something like this, but the difference is that my spare wanderings supply the *majority* of my income. Simply by bringing up computers, or speaking to people at bars of cool technologies, ive found myself doing work for a reasonably large crowd. Once you've done work for someone, they almost ALWAYS have a friend that needs something, and that friend has a friend, and so forth. While its not the most stable work in the world, i always seem to do alright. (I would put it on par with waiting tables, the numbers always seem to end up partially in your favor). The best part? You can charge $50/hour showing some nitwit how to install kazaa, and hes all the happier. And they love you :)

  10. Freelance MS Support? Who's License? by superid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Suppose I want to be a freelance tech support / Windows Superman who can swoop into peoples homes and repair their neglected boxes. By the letter of the MS law...errr...license....what can I actually do?

    Will the typical user be able to produce any OS media whatsoever? Full version (ha!) Upgrade? (possibly)... recovery cd?

    If not what am I left with? Windows Update? perhaps. The admins in my office carry a pack labeled "CDs to Fix Most Anything" and these include our corporate ver of various MS products.

    If I went to Staples and purchased a full ver of XP Pro, could I use it to repair existing broken installations. I do not mean a complete reinstallation, rather, I suppose it would be the /i386 stuff, cabs and infs.

  11. Re:I'd rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's not bad if you keep it in perspective. A lot of those guys on the other end of the phone line are frustrated because they've been talked down to for so long. If you treat them with respect, it works fine. At least that has been my experience. --vicki

  12. Re:Only in theory... by ichimunki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I'm not sure suing you is a viable business plan, I have been wondering what the geek world thought of starting a home computer leasing program where regular users would lease a computer (running GNU/Linux, of course) from my (as yet hypothetical) business for a regular monthly fee. In addition to low initial costs for the users, minimal configuration computer is free with a 12 month contract kinda thing, I would think knowing that someone out there was obligated to help with tech support would be very comforting. Basically take how the typical cell phone plan works and apply that to GNU/Linux system leasing and service support. Would it work?

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  13. Re:Only in theory... by kmak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really though, can you make enough money to make it a full-time job? Can you actively seek users to pay you 20$ an hour doing trivially tedious work?

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  14. Re:Only in theory... by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The answer is yes. Right now you have two levels of idiots -- those who need tech support and those who provide tech support. It's a case right now of the blind leading the blind. An actual geek who knows what they're doing could put the current tech support shops out of business.

    From an actual call from my wife and later me (both engineers):
    Wife: Our channels went out during a storm and we're only getting about half of them now.
    Tech: Turn off your receiver, pull out the SmartCard, wait 10 seconds, reinsert it and turn it on.
    Wife: I already did that, it didn't work.
    Tech: It's probably the cabling.
    Wife: How? We're getting half the channels perfectly clear. In fact, it's only the even transponder channels that aren't working.
    Tech: According to my database, it's probably the cables. Do you know if you have RG6 cables?
    Wife: I don't know, my husband installed it.
    Tech: Have your husband call us back when he gets home.

    When I got home, I called. While on hold for about 15 minutes, I surfed through the onscreen setup and came to a page that listed satellite and transponders. Everything was X'ed out except one satellite was listed "Transponders: Odd". I ran the "Check Switch" option and it updated with two satellites and both odd and even transponders. Everything worked fine.

    What kind of moron, or database, thinks the cables are the problem when half the channels are perfect? Dumbasses! They don't even know their own system setup or even basic electronics debugging.

  15. Reading /. is depressing by Blitzshlag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mod me down as off-topic, but I think this post is relevant to the nature of this thread. These forums are all doom and gloom these days. Is all of /.'s reader base unemployed? I guess this is what I get for reading in the middle of the work day, of course the only posters would be people who are out of work, or in school. ALL IT IS GOING OVERSEAS! NO GEEKS CAN MAKE MONEY! I'm not buying any of it. The numbers of returns for tech job searches on the likes of monster.com in the tech sector have never been higher than they are now. And I'm seeing jr. level programming positions advertising 60-70k/year. I'm in school and my programming internships (with 2 large companies) have paid better than what a lot of people are saying the average full-time salary is these days. Both companies have asked me to return after I graduate for full time positions starting at nice comfortable salaries. I'm no super genius either, I'm a good programmer who works hard. And it's not location, because I've worked in 3 states already. I dunno, maybe I'm young and stupid and not seeing the big picture.

    1. Re:Reading /. is depressing by forgetmenot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Cheer up. You're not the only one noticing this trend. Personally I feel it's only a handful of BIG (seriously.. BIG) high-profile companies that are reducing costs by moving IT services overseas. But it NOT every shop doing so. Granted there's a lot of unemployed people out there but there's also still a lot of jobs. One has to wonder if the real reasons there's so many complaints about lack of work is more because of one or more of the following:
      1) Unwilling to relocate.
      2) Inflated egos spoiled by dot.com era salaries.
      3) Realization that MS Certification and/or 6-month diploma is NOT a meal ticket. (Note to readers: If you're unemployed and one of these, leave the real work to the pros, go run a convenience store or become a plumber instead)
      4) Not informed enough to go looking in the right places.
      5) Anti-social personalities.

      Methinks Slashdot could "help out" its unemployed readers by providing links to
      a) IT/software developer job-wanted sites.
      b) sites to help one improve personality/hygiene and general interview skills.

      There are already plenty of site like that but apparently a LOT of readers can't find them on their own.

      Oh wait... lookee here in the corner under "Services".. Wow.. it's a "Jobs" link.

      Now if only there was link to this page.

  16. Re:Only in theory... by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem I see, is that all the companies may encourage you to do freelance tech support, with your rates a little lower than established firms. Then viciousness ensues, the firms are undercut in price and begin going in death throes so they attempt to function with lower prices. Then unemployed freelancers lower their business. Eventually, you hear "what do you mean you want 7$ an hour for computer support, that's robbery". You need to have a very good reason for going into business for yourself. Unemployment is not a good reason.

  17. Ars Technica: Accidental Self-Help Guru by Mad+Man · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Funny, ArsTechnica has a story today about how computer users are becoming self-sufficient in some respects.

    The NYT is running a short piece on the growing phenomenon of people who, solely out of necessity and not out of any real love of computers, have been forced to become tech-heads.

    As consumer electronics proliferate and consumers grow increasingly disenchanted with technical support operations (which routinely charge for calls), many people are discovering that whether they want to or not, they are developing more than a little technical proficiency. Some, like Mr. Marcuse, become virtual experts. But many of these accidental techies learn only as much as they absolutely must...

    Phyllis LaBaw, 45, associate athletic director at the University of South Florida in Tampa, is seldom away from her computer. As a result, she has grown self-reliant over the years without having attended a single computer-related class, she said. "You start spending time, and you're going to get to the point that eventually you're going to learn how to fix what you've botched up."

    Still, for all the time they invest, most self-taught technicians would rather be doing something else.
  18. Re:Excellent!!! by vudufixit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Redwoodtree: Thanks for the note of understanding and encouragement. I'll also add that in a lot of cases, my more affluent clients will simply give me working hardware they don't need anymore (ie - recently got a 19" monitor and a Brother HL-1440 laser printer) - if the stuff's good enough I'll use it, and therefore save on a purchase - or I'll turn around or sell it to a less well-off client that's willing to buy used hardware. What also helps is living in a area with a fairly aged population - I notice older folks need more help with computers, are less quick to upgrade, and are very loyal to people who give them good service.

  19. This does not work for everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a 20 year old computer geek and I'm great at computer troubleshooting, but this isn't as easy as they make it seem. Its hard to find clients. I handed out numbers of cards,flyers and put ads in the paper. I got about two calls.

  20. Re:Only in theory... by pmz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Remember, this is the general public that doesn't understand why a monopoly in general-use operating systems is a Bad Thing (tm).

    Then, why do they know enough to be suspicious of monopolies in other industries? If they went to buy a car, and they had no choice but to buy, for example, a Ford Pinto, Ford Streaky Clean windsheild wipers, Ford Slippery When Wet tires, and Ford Big Bang gasoline they would throw a fit that would make a 2-year-old envious.

    My theory is that humans are very susceptible to user interfaces. All cars are basically the same, all screwdrivers are basically the same, etc., but there are enough differences between MS Windows and Motif CDE to make people uncomfortable. One thing Microsoft does well is shove a somewhat-consistent UI down everyone's throats.

  21. Re: The tech was actually on the right track by mpaque · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On a small dish satellite receiver (DirectTV or Dish Network) there's a bit in the antenna (the LNB) that's switched between even and odd transponders by feeding a DC (one of tw voltage levels) signal from the reciever back to the antenna. The signal switches the LNB between clockwise and counterclockwise circular polarization. Even transponders use one polarization, and odd transponders use the other.

    When you ran the switch test, you caused control signals to be sent to the relays that switch between two LNBs in your antenna (these are usually low frequency tone controls). The test repeatedly cycled the relays, which tends to clean the contacts. This then allowed the differetn DC signal levels to reach the antenna to switch the LNB to get odd transponders.

    Odds are pretty good that you have one or more connectors in the coax running to the antenna that are not sealed and have a little corrosion in them, weakening the DC control signal. Less likely but possible causes include a marginal switch, or a long run of lower quality cable such as RG/59.

  22. Re:Great Opportunity by witts · · Score: 2, Interesting

    True story from a friend who works for local cable company: he was sitting in the van doing paperwork when a fat, unattractive woman knocks on the window and asks how much cable is per month. $30. She asks if she can *BLOW* him for cable. He politely refuses, she's way gross. She then ups the ante and offers sex, but no way, she's an ogre. He makes his excuses and gets the hell out of her neighborhood (trailer park, too many jokes flooding my head...) Funny thing is my pal told people back at the office about the encounter and now everyone talks about it. So moral of the story: bored & lonely housewives are not hot, they are alone for a reason.

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  23. Ive been doing this for years by Facekhan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have been doing freelance support, teaching old ladies how to email, setting up home networks, and installing drives and adapters into pc's for a couple years now. If you bust your ass and spend a lot of time and a reasonable amount of money advertising (flyers, newspaper ads, a radio commercial etc. then you can make a fair living at this. You can easily charge $60-$120 for an hours work and you charge even more when small businesses call and need emergency service. I charge 80 an hour at this point and for emergencies at night I have charged as much as 200 an hour. It definitely keeps me in the lunch money while I go to college full time.

  24. Think of it as a 'Boutique Service' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've been doing 'spare time' consulting for years - I choose my clients carefully and I've made a reasonable amount of extra money doing it and helped a lot of good people. Do it for a LIVING....? Hm. Let me think about thatNO. Too much fluctuation in demand, even the GOOD clients can make life miserable and, of course, there's just software/hardware weirdness sometimes. If you're VEEWWWY CAREFUL... you MIGHT be able to scrape up enough $$ for rent on a small apt.... but don't expect to live large.

  25. Spyware by blunte · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Considering probably 4 of 5 computers has spyware dribbling out of every orifice, I'd say there's plenty of business.

    In fact, as long as MS is the market leader in OS and desktop "productivity" software, tech support should thrive.

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