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Tomb Raider Game Blamed for Movie's Poor Ticket Sales

ff_cid writes "Reuters reports on the poor box office results of Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life and how Paramount executives are pointing the finger at the mediocre reception of Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness: "The Cradle of Life," the second film based on games heroine Lara Croft, opened in fourth place at the U.S. box office last weekend with sales of $21.7 million, well below the opening weekend of 2001's "Tomb Raider." "The only thing we can attribute that to is that the gamers were not happy with the latest version of the 'Tomb Raider' video game, which is our core audience," Paramount distribution president Wayne Lewellen said." It couldn't possibly be that because the first movie was such a stellar work of cinematography, no one raced out to see the sequel.

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  1. It's cause by u-238 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the first movie sucked. Period.

    i paid to see the first, and would never make the mistake of doing so again

  2. Read my same post about LOTR by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mass media and over-saturization has pretty much killed this series. The First game was great, so was the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, s....

    Perhaps this'll teach the media that Over-publicising a show/game will effectively kill it.

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    1. Re:Read my same post about LOTR by merdark · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your same post about LOTR??

      Don't step on holy ground man. ;)

      LOTR is in no way over publicized. LOTR movies are the *only* movies me and my freinds care and can't wait too see. LOTR is not based off some lame video game who's major feature is it's main character's breasts.

    2. Re:Read my same post about LOTR by iainl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The flaw with your argument with LOTR was that there has been a mass of Tolkein-geeks lapping up any old rubbish tied into the books for decades already, and it hasn't killed it yet (the text adventures on the 8-bit machines were stunningly horrible, for instance, and I didn't think much of Bakshi's animated version either).

      The flaw here, similiarly, is that Eidos had already released four terrible sequels to Tomb Raider before the first film came out. I find it really difficult to believe its the fault of a fifth bad game sequel, rather than the dire first film that is at fault here.

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  3. PA rules by ff_cid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Haha nice PA link. I think these execs need to realise there only so many bad summer sequels people will watch.

  4. here's another idea: by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    crappy sales of the game are because of the crappy last film.

    seriously though, i didn't even know there was another tomb raider coming.

    could they have chosen worse summer for release anyways? with hulk, t3, reloaded and all.
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  5. Pot meet Kettle - Kettle meet Pot by DrSkwid · · Score: 3, Funny

    ha! jeesh, they should have watched the first movie again.

    Worst Lara ever!

    My 13 yo says TR stopped being fun when they dropped the training level and now you can't kill Lara in her own home. /me waits for Tomb Raider Racer

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  6. And this is a shock? by DesScorp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The game had nothing to do with the stinking ticket sales. Ticket sales sucked because the first movie was abominally BAD. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Looks like the public wasn't in a mood to be a fool.

    The first Tomb Raider was the only movie I've ever gotten up and walked out of. I got my money back. It was THAT bad.

    The only real surprise here is that the studios actually thought people would pay to see another one.

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  7. The sequel was indeed good. by mnmn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We went to see some movies in a local Cinema, and since they dont check customers leaving one cinema and entering another, we watched 4 movies in one day on the same ticket. To fill up the time till we saw T3, we had to watch Tomb Raider 2, but it was indeed a good movie. Enjoyed it more than T3.

    Now the whole idea about Tomb Raider brings it down, a busty rich chick with a whole mansion and the MI6 at her disposal. Indiana Jones as an Archaeologist was a bit rediculous, but Lara Croft is pushing it with an ego. That itself discourages the action based audience (all adolescent guys or ones in their 20s). They need to improve the story lines and make it more believable both in the game and the movies in order to sell it. They should keep Angelina Jolie though.

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    1. Re:The sequel was indeed good. by DrWho520 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That itself discourages the action based audience (all adolescent guys or ones in their 20s).

      How would a busty, sexy woman swinging around like Indiana Jones be unappealing to the action/adventure crowd? We are not that chauvinistic. We wanna see an empowered, intelligent woman.
      With a sexy British accent.
      And nice knockers.
      And legs that would snap you in two.

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  8. Be careful out there... by fleafan · · Score: 5, Funny
    Boys, becareful with dissing the first movie.

    My girlfriend is a big Lara Croft fan. She talked me into going to see the first movie. And hey, why not? She was happy that I wanted to do something she liked for her sake, and I could (secretly) dribble over Angelina Jolie.
    The movie was so awful that, when the credits rolled, I rose from my seat and proclaimed - forgetting who I was with - as loud as I could: "Jesus, that movie SUCKED!".

    I didn't get any for three days.

    1. Re:Be careful out there... by leifm · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have the opposite, my girlfriend hates Angelina Jolie and thus virtually everything she's in.

      And if you think three days is bad....you must not live together.

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  9. Wasn't me! by Acts+of+Attrition · · Score: 5, Funny
    Behold the latest trend in licensing! if your licensed product does poorly, blame the people who created the license, not yourself who made the inferior product. First Activision sues Viacom cause Star Trek sucks and now this. Here's an idea, next time don't pick up a license to something you think sucks! The major factor however was that the first film wasn't any good. That's what turned away the mainstream audience from the picture, not the handful of gamers turned away by game reviews.

    I'm still waiting for the Wachowski Brothers to sue themselves over Enter the Matrix, claiming it tarnished the franchise :)

    1. Re:Wasn't me! by Ondo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here's an idea, next time don't pick up a license to something you think sucks!

      In both cases they're claiming the license started sucking after they picked it up.

  10. This could have been remedied by leifm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some of you may remember Swordfish, a massive pile of shit with John Travolta and a tan/buff/perfect hair 'hacker'. You probably also remember the Halle Barry topless scene in the middle that didn't really seem to serve any purpose, other than 'Damn we need some reason for people to sit through this shit'.

    Repeat this brilliant move in TR3 Paramount. Suddenly 45 min into the film Laura feels an intense need to take a banana from a monkey (jungle scene) strip and creatively use that banana. It'll add a couple mil to the opening...

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  11. Games: the 21st century's scapegoat by Winterblink · · Score: 4, Funny

    First, games are to blame for violence in our schools (see this notable PA), and now they're to blame for crummy movie sales? What's next?

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    1. Re:Games: the 21st century's scapegoat by Telastyn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't forget that MS Flight simulator was to blame for the 9/11 terrorism too!

      What's next is.... well it *won't* be video games blamed for teenage pregnancy... I think.

    2. Re:Games: the 21st century's scapegoat by matzim · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's next is.... well it *won't* be video games blamed for teenage pregnancy... I think.

      Well, there probably *is* a statistical relationship between sexual experience and video game use-- though I suspect the correlation coefficient has a big honkin' minus sign in front of it.

    3. Re:Games: the 21st century's scapegoat by einhverfr · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's next is.... well it *won't* be video games blamed for teenage pregnancy... I think

      Can I blame The Sims for this one? Pretty please???

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  12. Ebert bravely stands alone... by darnvader · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...as about the only critic who actually likes these films... and he drools over pretty much anything Angelina Jolie is in, so he doesn't even count.

    Maybe Paramount should consider that before blaming the video game developers? I suppose it's easier to blame someone else than to admit your movie is crap.

    1. Re:Ebert bravely stands alone... by matzim · · Score: 3, Funny

      I suppose it's easier to blame someone else than to admit your movie is crap.

      Ladies and gentlemen of the press... Thank you for coming. As you may know, LCTR:TCOL (catchy name, don't you know think?) didn't perform as well as expected its first weekend. We producers were confused at first, but then we realized the film is a big steaming pile of monkey shit, and have only ourselves to blame. Questions?

  13. Same old story. by mikedaisey · · Score: 4, Insightful


    This is hardly surprising--when a big film explodes in H'wood, everyone runs for cover and the blame gets thrown around. One of the advantages of using a game franchise is that when things meltdown you can point at that, rather than the truth that everyone, even the studios, knows: that the first movie blew apes, and the public wasn't buying the dog food a second time.

    So don't be shocked--it's just Cover Your Ass time.

  14. blame it on the pirates by kootch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yea, that's right. they should blame the poor movie ticket sales on the people pirating the movie on DVDs in chinatown. then they should blame people trading the movie online using services like Kazaa and Morpheus. then they should blame the economy. then they should blame Angelina Jolie for getting older and not having the same sex appeal.

    all in all, they should blame everyone 'cept themselves and their god-awful movies that just suck.

  15. Tomb Raider Game? by tbmaddux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Haven't the Tomb Raider games sucked for a while now? The first game was really something back in 1996 when it first came out, with its 3rd-person perspective, but there were at least five sequels to the game before the first movie even came out, with little to no changes to the engine. CORE and Eidos sequelled the game into the ground long before the movies even started to suck.

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  16. Bad game? Bah... bad movie! by Zathrus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Went to see it this past weekend since it was a friend's birthday weekend and my wife wanted to see it (Yes, she can appreciate a hot woman as well. Yes, I am a lucky bastard).

    About the only redeeming feature of the movie was Angelina Jolie's nipples. And since they're in the first 15 minutes, you can feel free to save yourself and leave after that.

    I really wasn't expecting much from the movie, but even then I was disappointed. The action scenes were mostly lackluster, no adrenaline, and no tension. There were a couple that weren't bad, but they didn't make up for the rest. The plot, which I expected to be weak and sad, was abysmal and painful. It doesn't hurt much simply because the entire movie is so forgetable.

    Yes, I've seen far, far worse movies. But this is a rental at best. The reason the movie ticket sales are so bad is because the movie is so bad... it had nothing to do with the game. But why are we expecting companies/people to actually admit that they're to blame instead of pointing fingers?

  17. Mr. Cranky by tycage · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mr. Cranky disagrees with why the movie is doing so badly.

  18. The major problem is.. by maunleon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Noone ends up caring about Lara. She comes across as snobby and full of herself. In every good movie, viewers end up liking or identifying with the main character.

    There is a major directorial and script writing issue with TR, but the character definition is the biggest problem. They have to make us CARE about Lara, and not see her as a priviledged, bratty girl.

    Women get burned out because she's portraied in such a perfect light. Men get burned out because they see no vulerabilities. The movies have no climax since there are no low parts.

    Someone needs to take Movie Making 101. If any movie needed a little formula infusion, this is it. The director should read what makes a hero(ine). The current Lara is not it. Throw something challenging at Lara... read the formula book.. fish out of water, reluctant heroine, whatever. Make us care.

    Right now.. it's an MTV glam video.

  19. duh.. by Suppafly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The first movie was hyped for like a year before it came out, back when the tomb raider franchise was worth something. Even though the second movie is a little better than the first, no one plays tomb raider anymore.. when you plan a movie around an aging video game franchise, you can't except it to do so hot.

  20. It's Piracy by angle_slam · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought that the reason the movie did badly is because of rampant Piracy? That's also the reason Pirates of the Caribbean is doing so well: of course pirates are going to see a Pirate movie.