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Microsoft Deploys Linux, Open Software in Test Lab

securitas writes "Microsoft has deployed Linux and other open-source software in test labs used by business customers to experiment with Microsoft's products. The products include Linux, Apache, MySQL and Open LDAP directory-access software on Intel-based computers, according to Martin Taylor, who is in charge of Microsoft's Linux competitive strategy. He said the goal was to learn 'what can you do and how can you do it' using open-source software in a competitive analysis. This step comes after Microsoft's recent admission that Linux is Microsoft's biggest threat after economic conditions. Mirrors at CMPnetAsia and InternetWeek." It'd be cool to see some patches come from Redmond, but that's probably wishful thinking.

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  1. MIcrosoft Linux by RhoryCalhoon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is a Microsoft flavor of Linux coming? It could be this week's sign of the Apocalypse.

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    1. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by RhoryCalhoon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, that is definitely true. Microsoft would probably toss a couple billion dollars into an attempt at demolishing the GPL. If they actually did try that though, some people from around here would probably blow up Redmond.

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    2. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is a Microsoft flavor of Linux coming?

      It sure is. It's scheduled to be out in November:

      Microsoft Linux - the premier linux distro

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    3. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by doi · · Score: 4, Funny
      Is a Microsoft flavor of Linux coming? It could be this week's sign of the Apocalypse.

      Only if it includes GNotepad for X written in GNU.Net, and an MS-Ogg version of the Free Software Song sung by Bill Gates.

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    4. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Microsoft linux: It's not just a Distribution, it's an entire Distribution Channel.

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    5. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, the new Microsoft Linux is called Windux!

      It wipes your windows clean!

    6. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by TheOldFart · · Score: 5, Funny

      >> Control

      >> It'd be cool to see some patches come from Redmond...

      Yeah. I can see that. The patches coming out of Microsoft would come in stages. Patch number 1 should be worn for two weeks, and then patch number 2 for another 3 weeks, and finally, if the symptoms of addictions were still present, wear patch number 3 for another 2 weeks. Once we've all gone through the patch process, we would finally be free of this awful habit of smok... I mean, using non Microsoft nicot... I mean, software.

    7. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny
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    8. Re:MIcrosoft Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That is because microsoft had no server OS robust enough to serve dumb clients at the time.

      That is history. Now they serve only dumb clients.

  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  3. Coming soon... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

    He said the goal was to learn 'what can you do and how can you do it' using open-source software in a competitive analysis.

    You can find the new revised feature set for Longhorn here.

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  4. Here's the MS distro by Snoopy77 · · Score: 4, Funny
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    1. Re:Here's the MS distro by rmohr02 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not surprising it uses rpms instead of debs.

  5. Re:What is it running on? by Jack+Comics · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're being optimistic. 386 is my guess. Or even more dastardly, running it on a 286 and claim that Linux and its apps break on Intel hardware.

    Jack

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  6. Re:Patches from Redmond by Catnapster · · Score: 2, Funny

    The little editorial comment suggests that while it is unlikely that Microsoft will be releasing patches, it would be pretty cool.

    The article is about Microsoft setting up Linux and open-source software on computers in test labs.

    Hope that clears it up for you.

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  7. "Microsoft Deploys Linux" by TrollBridge · · Score: 3, Funny

    Once I read that, I felt a sudden compulsion to bathe...

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  8. Re:What is it running on? by Sophrosyne · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's actually being emulated within Windows XP... that way engineers are exposed to a "regular" rate of crashing and don't get too suspicious.
    The last thing Microsoft wants is for its engineers to switch over themselves.

  9. MS Patch to Linux Kernel by rjamestaylor · · Score: 5, Funny

    diff -urN ms-linux/CREDITS linux/CREDITS
    --- ms-linux/CREDITS Wed Jul 31 17:39:29 2001
    +++ linux/CREDITS Wed Jul 31 17:41:45 2001
    @@ -973,8 +973,8 @@
    /*
    -ALL YOUR BASE
    +BELONGS TO US
    */

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  10. Re:Yay microsoft officially uses nix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Haven't they been, much their chagrin, running *nix for a while now (with their own software not being up to snuff to run Hotmail, they had to outsource hosting to someone who, of course, runs Unix?).

    I do worry that, like they've done with other competitors and in the past, they'll just hobble Linux to make it run "like shareware stuff that's not very good" (actual Ballmer quote, BTW). "See, takes 30 mintues just to boot on this here top of the line computer! Now, if your time's worth money, lemme show you MS Server 2005: with new MS innovations like a display system that's network transparent, improved web browsing with our new "tabbed browsing" technology, and something that we're very proud of, MS Virtual desktops -- straight from research! -- that effectively multiply your visible work area without upgrading to a wall display. Only $500 bucks installation, and 35cents per computing minute for use. Whadda say?"

    You know, history repeating itself?

  11. Oh my... by matth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bill Gates claimed Microsoft is better at fixing software problems quickly than the open-source community.

    And that's why some exploits found in IE in Windows XP are ALSO vulnerable in Windows 95.... and why it takes so long to put patches out... faster my foot.

  12. Re:Patches from Redmond by blackwizard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe they could put in a patch that would make Linux display a friendly blue screen when it crashes instead of a kernel panic message. Embrace and extend!

  13. here's the lab testbed by Cheeze · · Score: 3, Funny

    here is the linux computer

    and here is the windows one

    And the winner is......





    the linux computer, since it didn't crash.

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  14. Re:Patches from Redmond by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wouldn't mind Linux patches from Microsoft if they were tastefully embroidered, and matched the color of my jacket.

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  15. From the secret MS strategic OS file! by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, not Darwin...

    In the next few years, prepare for - Microsoft Hurd!!

    And you were wondering why the nextgen OS was codenamed "Longhorn"....

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  16. You are all wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's only one true Longhorn.

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  17. GNU/Hurd 1.0 by gatesh8r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Coming Fall of 2092.

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  18. SCO Connection! (Microsoft paid SCO license fees) by innosent · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, somebody actually did pay SCO to license and use Linux!

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  19. Re:Having worked with Linux at MS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    OMG open source fagz r the onleey wunz who kan program properly!!!!@! If M$$$$$ does something right its becuz they STOLE from US OMG !!@ lol kthxbye

  20. The begining of the end for Microsoft. by rusty0101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    First Linux gets deployed for testing in a test lab at Microsoft.

    In order to get it's performance down to a level that they can compare Microsoft software to it they start storing internal documents on it and tell internal users to use that store to stay current.

    Since the internal servers are now getting fewer hits, they start consolidating some of the services they had spread across several servers onto fewer servers, freeing up those servers.

    A few of the free servers get rouge installs of Linux with Samba, and people discover that they can actually store files on these servers with some reliable expectation of seeing the files again a couple of minutes down the line.

    The Micorsoft Win2k+3 servers start to respond even faster to the test systems and more consolidation goes on.

    Someone in the test lab isn't happy that the Linux boxes are still outperforming the Win2k+3 boxen, so he convinces management to use them as DHCP servers for the campus.

    This frees up even more of the internal Win2k+3 servers from consolidation, and someone says, let's show that SQL Server is better than (insert favorite Open Sourc or proprietary RDB engine that runs on Linux here) and people in the company realize they are actually getting close to real time results off of these servers, and start migrating applications over to them.

    Since Microsoft is trying to move to a dbfs anyway, even more of the internal infrastructure starts getting moved over to Linux as the original Microsoft OS servers are relieved of the duties that they were originally tasked with.

    Marketing comes along and asks how the new Windows 2K+3 is going, and IT is able to say with a straight face:

    "We were able to consolidate the entire campus server farm down to a single system runing Win2k+3. And since no-one in house is actually using it, response time and recovery from failures has become a non-issue. We are saving millions of dollars every year because the quiet migration to an all Linux infrastructure has reduced the actual demand for systems to the point that we have been able to reduce our electrical usage by shutting down systems and reducing the demands on the cooling systems significantly. Our phone support teams are somewhat confused as they are getting calls about server issues that they have never experienced, however our developers have been able to get Win2k+3 running on a VMWare image under Linux and we have been able to simulate the issues that customers have been experiencing, without actually loosing any data or having any significant down time."

    Marketing, "Huh?".

    Ok, it's not likely to happen, but we can fantasize.

    -Rusty

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  21. That scared me for a moment... by Cable_Monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought this meant that MS-Linux had been released. In any case, if it had been, then I would have had to get my hands on a copy somehow and try it out just to see what they had done.

    One thing that I would definitely expect is Apache patched with patched patches to make it MS-crash certified with virus-enabling features. ;-)

  22. Which will inevitably be replaced by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And we all know what comes from hurds... They rhyme with hurd, and they aptly describe MS' products...

    You guessed it! The uber-new OS code named "turd".

  23. Linux. The un-Cola. by Mulletproof · · Score: 1, Funny

    "This step comes after Microsoft's recent admission that Linux is Microsoft's biggest threat after economic conditions."

    Heh, doesn't this make anybody else just chuckle to themselves? It's like the lion saying that between a gopher, a squirrle and a rat, the gopher is it's biggest threat. I know it'll get modded flame or troll, but lets put things into realistic perspective here...

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  24. "Lab"? I bet they mean "lair". by Disti · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to my underground lair. I have gathered here before me the world's deadliest hax0rs, and yet, each of you has failed to hack Linux! That makes me angry and when Dr. Bill gets angry, Mr. Bugglesworth gets upset and when Mr. Bugglesworth gets upset, innocent penguins die!

  25. Re:Why are they announcing this? by Lokist · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why didn't I put that in plain text format! D'oh

  26. I can see it clearly now by mastropiero · · Score: 2, Funny

    >>It'd be cool to see some patches come from Redmond

    They are going to bring GPL'ed and Open Sourced Software down by submitting their patches! Oh the humanity!!

    Call the Stallminator!