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Photoshop in Linux Thanks to Disney

miladus writes "eWeek reports that Walt Disney's feature animation unit (along with 2 other unnamed studios) are using Adobe's Photoshop in Linux. They use the Wine emulator to run the software and the 3 studios 'not known as team players, all three agreed that a project that would benefit the entire open-source community while delivering a technology they needed--was worth their cooperation'."

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  1. Also ... by Arthaed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just remembered reading this article in Linux Journal about Dreamworks running Photoshop via VMWare.

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  2. speed by Tirel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What about speed issues? Isn't photoshop+wine a lot slower than running it in native win32? I can hardly run mirc with wine on a 1ghz computer (only a test, I don't really use mirc ;)

  3. performance by poison_reverse · · Score: 5, Interesting

    has anyone actually tried to run ps on linux? How does the performance measure up to say a mac or windose box? I would also like to see Adobe golive run nicely on linux too. Maybe adobe will notice the need for its apps on linux and start porting them.

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  4. numbers by Lxy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't get where their numbers are coming from.

    Apparently Photoshop on Windows costs $50K+$40K support == $90K

    Photoshop on linux costs $15K.

    Last I checked, Photoshop was around $600 per workstation. XP Pro is $200/station, and I think licenses for NT/2K/2K3 server are around $100/seat. So really, Windows ended up being the cheaper part of of the equation, at $300 per station.

    Support? How is it that Windows support is $40K/yr but linux support is free? There's just as much free Windows support out there as linux.

    I applaud the effort to move off Windows, and I'm glad to see that WINE is of this caliber quality, but don't justify your switch with a bunch of nonsense numbers.

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  5. Cool article by EZmagz · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I thought this was an interesting article, and it's nice to see that Disney was able to save a pretty decent chunk of change by running Linux and wine instead of Windows on their desktops. I'd still give my left testicle to be able to play in the Disney/Pixar/etc. animation studios and computing centers...talk about horsepower!

    On a related note, I'm still kind of surprised that Adobe wouldn't port Photoshop over to Linux even for a company with as much clout as Disney. Seriously, I realize it's a LOT of work to port an app that massive, but if basically every animator who runs linux wants it, why not? Catering to your customers is definitely part of a good business model. Since Adobe's management switched over not too far back though, I think some of the crazy innovations might be slower-coming these days. Guess that's what happens when you replace someone with vision (Adobe founder) with a Marketing drone (current CEO, IIRC).

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  6. Re:Disney supporting open-source? by Laxitive · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh yeah.

    I dislike the company, but there are some really cool, nifty, interesting things, technologically, that disney does.

    One of my favourite examples - The core development team of Squeak smalltalk is resident at Disney. Smalltalk hackers are a cool bunch. And yes, Squeak is open source.

    Anyway, I'm sure there are many cool nerds at Disney.

    -Laxitive

  7. What about color calibration/colorspace mgmt? by isaac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can anyone whose done real work with Photoshop-on-WINE comment on how they deal with display calibration and colorspace issues? How do you make sure what you see on your linux box is what you get from your film printer?

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  8. Re:Stil Not Free by Xpilot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are you kidding? I'd pay for Photoshop in Linux. It's a quality tool regardless of how we feel towards Adobe. I'm sure many graphics professionals would pay for it too (Disney is proof). Adobe should really consider porting Photoshop to Linux (no need for it to be open source, closed source works fine).

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  9. So? Its a windwos binary.. by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What would be really great news is that there was a native *nix version again. ( there was one for SGI long ago.. so they cant claim it cant be done ).

    While using it in wine may be nice, and shows wine is improving, ( hats off to their team ) it really doesn't mean THAT much in the grand scheme of things.... we don't want to be relegated to just be an 'emulator' ( yes i know its not 100% accurate to say emulation, but you get the point so its close enough )

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  10. Re:Disney supporting open-source? by vidarh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to sort of like the Gimp, because I thought it had great promise. That was back in '98 or so. It's still mostly stuck with a UI that blows big time. Something as basic as drawing lines is still ridiculously unintuitive. Do you seriously think that the amount of money they spent on getting Photoshop running on Linux would make much difference to the quality of the Gimp?

  11. I thought the joke was... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, that exploding sound you hear is thousands of wine fanatics reading the article and going, "Wine is NOT AN EMULATOR!!

    I thought the joke embedded in the acronym was that it stood for BOTH of:

    - WINdows Emulator.
    - Wine Is Not an Emulator.

    Because it DOES provide a Windows API (which is one of the definitions of "emulator") but DOESN'T software emulate the machine itself (which is part of the USUAL definition of "emulator"), instead running the application's executable code "directly on the metal" - avoiding the massive speed penalty - and doing as much as practical of the API emulation by leveraging Linux native services rather than replacing them.

    But I don't actually KNOW how much of that is true. If one of the WINE core group can confirm or correct this post I'd appreciate it.

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  12. Now, what about this? by mkro · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From the end of the article:
    However, Disney's legal department has developed a policy that enables Disney to protect its intellectual property while keeping within the statutes of the GNU General Public License.
    ...and there is no mention of what that policy is. Would be interesting to know, since we are - as we all know - dealing with a good, old-fashioned Evil Corporation here. Could be nothing, but I'm rather suspicious by default when it comes to Disney.
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  13. Contact Adobe by Grip3n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're interested in contacting Adobe, here's a direct link to their Feature Request form. I suggest as many of us as possible to visit this page and let Adobe know there certainly is a demand for their product. We're talking 3 studios here, including Disney. Lets make some (positive) noise!

    http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html

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