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SCO Execs Dumping Stock

luigi6699 writes "According to the Salt Lake Tribune, 'SCO Group executives have sold about 119,000 shares of their company since it filed a lawsuit against IBM in March...' Their CFO started the $1.2 million sell-off just after the lawsuit."

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  1. Fark: Obvious by frieked · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in other news...
    SCO Group to Shoot Babies
    By Jeff Heard
    Lindon, UT - The SCO Group announced the launch of a campaign to shoot 1% of all babies born in the US.

    "Statistically, 1% of all people are Linux users. Rather than have these young hoodlums grow up without any respect for our intellectual property, we have chosen to nip it in the bud, as it were," said SCO's CEO, Darl McBride.

    In addition, during the campaign announcement, SCO said that individuals could pay $2,499 per child for immunity from execution. "The price goes up to $5,200 dollars after that family's firstborn reaches 18 months, so it is in their advantage to pony up now," McBride continued.

    The announcement brought cheers from SCO's chief investors and supporters, including the Gartner Group, and the BSA (Blind and Shortsighted Alliance). The organizations hailed it as "A brave, innovative step in the fight against intellectual piracy."

    An RIAA spokesperson that was also present said that they were taking serious looks at SCO's proposal for fighting piracy in the music industry. "I think this will be a great deterrent. It will force parents to talk to their kids about the evils of intellectual piracy. In a free economy, this kind of thing is a must."

    SCO, which stands for "Satanic Cultists' Operation," changed its name from Caldera in 2002, when it was acquired by an obscure organization which exclusively employs 1200-year-old undead trial lawyers. They are now embroiled in an ongoing legal battle with IBM, Red Hat, and the Open Source community over alleged copyright infringements embedded inside Linux.

    Speculation has been abound about what will happen if SCO wins the lawsuit. Some have suggested that Linux will disappear entirely from the market. Others have speculated that if SCO loses the lawsuit, it will use its connections with the Underworld to assemble a massive Army of the Dead, march on IBM headquarters, and crush it into a smoldering oblivion. When asked about the possibility of an undead Armageddon scenario, a senior IBM spokesperson said, speaking in stereophonic bass-tones, "This will not happen."

    When booed during the announcement by a large rotten tomato-wielding crowd, McBride exhorted, "I am disappointed with your reaction to our announcement. I must say that your decision to throw tomatoes does not seem conducive to the long-term survivability of your firstborn children."

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    1. Re:Fark: Obvious by wo1verin3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      >>Hey loser- you may think it is funny to joke
      >>about shooting babies, but outside of your
      >>close-knit circle of pasty white, pear shaped,
      >>stinky nerd friends, that is not funny and
      >>it's rather offensive.

      Hi. Welcome to SlashDot. Are you enjoying your first day here?

    2. Re:Fark: Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Get a life, asshole. Shooting babies is funny.

    3. Re:Fark: Obvious by FurryFeet · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heh... the noob even mispelled "luser"...

    4. Re:Fark: Obvious by tds67 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hey loser- you may think it is funny to joke about shooting babies, but outside of your close-knit circle of pasty white, pear shaped, stinky nerd friends, that is not funny and it's rather offensive.

      Hey now, we're not that close-knit.

    5. Re:Fark: Obvious by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 4, Funny
      Ah, yes. The PC Credo: Thou Shalt Not Offend Me.

      You are the type who actively seek out situations where you can be offended, and then enjoy the satisfaction of whining about it, sometimes enough to ruin everyone else's fun.

      My only wish is to cause you politically correct hyper-sensitives some offense which is so vile, so immediately repulsive to your delicate constitutions, that you shrivel up and die like a salted snail.

      Bite me, moron.

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    6. Re:Fark: Obvious by Psyx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow! You did an amazing job. Google News is now reporting this on their front page:

      SCO Execs Dumping Stock
      Slashdot - 10 minutes ago
      Lindon, UT - The SCO Group announced the launch of a campaign to shoot 1% of all babies born in the US.

    7. Re:Fark: Obvious by Dalcius · · Score: 4, Funny

      As of Tuesday, August 12th at 7:18 PM CST, this is still the case, though it's not on the front page:

      Google News search

      That is flippin hilarious, thanks for the laugh!

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  2. Mainstream media? by Bob+McCown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe the mainstream media is finally going to get a peek at what we've been talking about for months!

    1. Re:Mainstream media? by dnoyeb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doubt it. SCOX stock is not really discussed by any professionals at this point. it has little to no institutional ownership. The players are ignoring SCOX...

      " Their CFO started the $1.2 million sell-off just after the lawsuit."

      I kind of think they started this dump AFTER their stock when through the roof. WHy did their stock go through the roof? First profitable quarter ever. Why was it the first profitable quarter ever? Microsoft. RTFQ(Q=Quarterly report) [Sun also bought a license]

      This was for UNIX licensing, little different that the law suit related stuff sort of.

      BTW, you should see all the sub $1.00 stock options flying about.

      Im into these fools for about 100 shares. On the short side.

    2. Re:Mainstream media? by RealAlaskan · · Score: 4, Funny
      This is great! If you Google on ``SCO execs dumping stock'' this is what Google news turns up:
      SCO Execs Dumping Stock
      Slashdot - 2 hours ago
      By Jeff Heard. Lindon, UT - The SCO Group announced the launch of a campaign to shoot 1% of all babies born in the US. "Statistically ...
      Try it yourself, but it probably won't last long.

      This guy caught it when it was on Google's Top News page.

      This is funny, but it shows that we need to take things like Google with a grain of salt. There's no human in the loop, and sometimes it shows.

  3. well... by cruppel · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's a new, but not suprising meaning to "take a wicked dump."

  4. What a coincidence! by webslacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I took a dump yesterday too!

    And the contents of my toilet had many similarities to SCO stock!

    1. Re:What a coincidence! by JonnyElvis42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the contents of my toilet had many similarities to SCO stock!

      Take some pride in your excrement! What did it ever do to you? Poor little s***s being thrown into the same category as SCO.

    2. Re:What a coincidence! by tds67 · · Score: 4, Funny
      I took a dump yesterday too! And the contents of my toilet had many similarities to SCO stock!

      Yes, but was it a pump-and-dump or just a dump? If the former, you can go blind from doing that.

  5. Where the HELL is the SEC? by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One really has to wonder - this is SO blatent, why is the SEC not in this up to their necks?

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    1. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by Tom7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why, what are they doing that's illegal?
      It's not exactly "insider info" that their lawsuit is shit and their stock as high as it'll ever go...

    2. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by madcow_ucsb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, it is illegal if they're making bogus claims to get themselves in the news with the sole purpose of making their stock take off. Then they dump it all before it crashes...

    3. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by guanxi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's class action attorneys, and not the SEC, that 'regulate' this behavior. The SEC can't have the resources to regulate every company in the U.S. but class action attorneys, because of the contingency fee structure, do have the resources to sue them.

      Why do you think the corporations complain so much about class action lawyers? You don't hear them whining about the SEC.

      I only say this because I always hear complaints about class action attorneys (which seems strange to me on Slashdot). They perform an essential, and very valuable public service. And yes, they make good money from it -- but only when they win.

    4. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by El · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I go into a chat room and make false claims about some company in order to make it's stock go up or down, I can be charged with securities fraud. (As at least one person has been.) Why then is it ok to make equally inacurate claims in a press release? These guys are deliberately trying to sabotage the share values of many large companies that have built products around Linux -- including IBM, Oracle, HP, Sharp and many others. Try lying about these companies in a public forum in a transparent attempt to try to drive their stock down, and see if the SEC doesn't come after you!

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    5. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, they don't only make good money when they win. They generally make good money when they settle, which they seem to do at least 99% of the time. Much of the time they settle for less than what it would cost the sued company to adequately defend the lawsuit. That seems like a shakedown. You don't read about it in the paper, but this happens all the time.

      The other problem with class action litigators is that they keep a huge chunk of whatever damages are collected, rather than giving it to the people damaged. This makes their winnings a de facto penalty, rather than a repayment of damages. Penalties should be imposed by and paid to the government, in my opinion, not by and to individuals. If the class action attorneys can make so much money (and some of them have made a *lot* of money) from penalties, why shouldn't the SEC be allowed to enforce laws and extract penalties? In effect you've outsourced justice to a bunch of unprincipled vigilantes. Not good.

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    6. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So if a company diliberately brings a lawsuit they know is fake purposly to jack up the stock price so they can cash out before the company collapses i't totally ok?

    7. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by stephenry · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This was an interesting post over on Yahoo (concerning the dramatic rise in SCO share price in the closing minutes of trading):

      "100 share lots, and the whole last 1o minutes (half the gain on the day) were done on less than 5000 shares. Thats less than 1/250th ( 0.4% - 4/10 of a percent) of the daily volume accounting for over HALF the closing price.

      If you look at the whole runup at the end, less than 1% of the volume accounted for 80% of the closing price gain.

      Someone is playing real monkey business with this stock.

      I wish there was full disclosure with buying and selling like there is on political donations. It would be very interesting to see who it is that keeps manipulating the closing price."

      That's Illegal.

    8. Re:Where the HELL is the SEC? by xsbellx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since when is there a direct connection between lawsuits and stock prices? A bogus lawsuit, of this magnitude, and the executives dumping stock should be seen by the investors (stock owners) for what it is; a really good indication that it's time to run, run far and run fast.

      As much as I don't like what SCO is doing and would love to see them all die a horrible flaming death, what, other than possibly baritry (SP?) have they done that is illegal? Before the flames are unleased, please read the question again, it say ILLEGAL not immoral or stupid.

      If the SCO execs all got together in, oh let's say November, and started buying large (insert abritrary SEC defined number) quantities of stock prior to announcing the suit, that could and to my untrained eyes would, be insider trading and/or fraud.

      Now just to let you in on another little secret, somebody has to be willing to buy what you are selling. So the real question now becomes who are the morons buying good money for a portion of a company that may or may not have a revenue stream? At the present time, anyone who considers SCO stock any better than an other-the-counter, very junior mining stock should start learning a little about investment. The old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" applies quite well to this situation.

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  6. It's a Good Thing(tm)! by Geekenstein · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a benevolent decision, folks. They want to share the wealth with the rest of the world who buys those shares when their stock price skyrockets. You know, after they prove their claims.

    What? It could happen!

  7. HA by Loosewire · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want to see all their new shareholders (due to them thinking the lawsuit was real and buying more) shit themselves when the price plummets :-)

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  8. no kidding they are dumping stock by joeldg · · Score: 4, Funny

    they found out that the monopoly money we were all sending to them is not worth anything :)

    Well, this should go down as one of the most obivous scams that has happened on wall street since enron and martha..

    *sigh*

    1. Re: no kidding they are dumping stock by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny


      > Well, this should go down as one of the most obivous scams that has happened on wall street since enron and martha..

      Yeah, but at least Martha did it with style.

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  9. Re:Kinda says it all, doesn't it. by pshuman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I were a SCO shareholder and I saw the SCOX Chart, I would be dumping my stock too!

  10. SCOX price chart by killthiskid · · Score: 4, Interesting
    1. Re:SCOX price chart by hobit · · Score: 5, Informative
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  11. SEC complaint by IgD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The SEC should really look into this. The lawsuit is totally bogus. SCO is definetely not acting in the best interests of its shareholders. SCO seems to be acting in the best interests of Microsoft. It is very curious how Microsoft and SCO reached some kind of licensing agreement in the context of this lawsuit. It is also curious how SCO claims that a single company purchased one of their bogus licenses without disclosing the name. There needs to be full disclosure about the relationship between SCO and Microsoft.

  12. Let's Put SCO Behind Bars by Omnifarious · · Score: 4, Informative

    For this kind of investor fraud, and for extortion, SCO executives should be charged as criminals. Here is an excellent Advogato article summarizing how and more of why.

  13. Re:Kinda says it all, doesn't it. by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm not surpised at the move, but *jeesh*, could you be any more blatant?

    What does this say about SCO's belief in the lawsuit? McBribe was blathering on about how IBM's refusal to indemnify its customers showed what IBM thought of its case. How about the chiefs dumping all of their stock? Yeah that's a major confidence builder!

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  14. Putting Your Guilt Where Your Mouth Is by aerojad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this insider selling continues as an IBM vs. SCO trial were to draw closer, that would mean that SCOs own top brass don't think they much of a chance. Of course of SCO winds up going under, those same top brass will probably have questions asked of them for why they sold before IBM destroyed them (if it happens that way).

    Benifit of the doubt though, insider selling does happen in companies to take profit, and if you look at SCO's 1 year preformance going from 95 cents to 16 dollars at it's recent peak (an increase of nearly 1,700%), you would see why it would seem intelligent to sell.

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  15. Source by tbdean · · Score: 5, Informative

    At least point at the source:

    SCO Group to Shoot Babies

    And haven't you heard? On /. we hate BBSpot. It's only on Fark that we love Brian.

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  16. Insider trading info... by cjustus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the link for those that want to see the complete rundown of insiders over the past little while at SCO...

  17. Insider trading is a sham, BUT... by squarooticus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...this isn't just insider trading: it's fraud pure and simple, and thus should be punished.

    The difference between the two in my eyes is that insider trading charges can target people who have no control over the company's action. Case in point: Martha Stewart, who might have known that the stock was going to drop, but had no control over whether it did or not. Punishing someone for selling because of what they thought seems like an egregious violation of privacy and civil rights AND is incredibly hard to prove; but punishing someone for selling because they engage in the systematic dissemination of disinformation related to the enterprise for the express purpose of increasing their payout at the expense of other stockholders is perfectly justifiable. That, my friends, is fraud.

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  18. Re:SEC by Waab · · Score: 4, Funny

    With the selloff starting 4 days after the lawsuit was filed and SCO VP Michael Wilson selling his entire stake in the company? I'd say a few SCO execs are likely to get a call from our friends at the SEC, and they ain't gonna be talking about whether or not Tennessee's going to a bowl game this year.

  19. It pisses me off that they win. by jonhuang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There, I said it. Sure linux marches on and the company will be pounded by big blue--but they, by which I mean the owners, get the cash for the FUD and run off. Legal liability is borne by SCO, which files for bankruptcy protection.

    There's a lot of gloating here today, but I think that the SCO execs got what they wanted, the lawyers got rich, and everyone else would have benifited from this never happening in the first place.

    gg.

  20. Could I... by Waab · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I go and buy a share or two of SCOX from one of the many rats fleeing their sinking ship, could I claim that my Linux installs would then be non-infringing since I would be a part owner of the company which "owns" the IP my 2.4.x kernel is supposedly copied from?

  21. An even better "REAL" news story at the SL Trib by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    SCO not exactly "loveable" ???

    Check out this additional story about SCO at the Salt Lake Tribune website.

  22. had to be said by mikeee · · Score: 4, Funny

    5) profit!

  23. Re:Kinda says it all, doesn't it. by computechnica · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like they may be joining Martha Stewart in jail soon ;^))

  24. Sales by heli0 · · Score: 4, Informative
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  25. Re:SEC by tmhsiao · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's two ways of looking at it. The more jaded among us might point our fingers at insider trading, and the use of the lawsuit to pump up the stock price before bailing.

    Then again, Wilson and the others (most of whom I've never seen interviewed in a Linux/IBM/SCO lawsuit-related article) might be part of the Caldera old-guard who believe that the lawsuit is stupid, baseless, or suicidal and are using this opportune time to pull out of an investment that they believe is doomed to fail.

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  26. A better chart by Hanzie · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Your chart is lograthmic.

    I'd take a look at the trend in this linear SCOX Chart for better information.

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    1. Re:A better chart by broeman · · Score: 4, Informative

      "funny" to see that when SCO started the whole thing, investors believed them, but since IBM, RedHat among others (e.g. Germany) responded it has been a bear-ride *yeeehaa!!*

      -> man, the last comment fits my sig

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    2. Re:A better chart by Lord+Custos · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Whats sad is when you compare it to Redhat

    3. Re:A better chart by MurghMakni · · Score: 5, Informative

      Since you have to borrow the stock, someone has to loan it to you. Typically, your broker would loan you the stock. SCOX is not widely held and there aren't many shares outstanding, so it is known as a hard to borrow stock, making it very hard to short. I write software for a stock trading company and SCOX is on our list of stocks we can't short.

    4. Re:A better chart by budgenator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      actualy I thought it interesting that after SCO throwing a multi-billion dollar lawsuit at IBM, habitualy bad-mouthing or scare-mongering anything Linux, and harrassing RH's customers, that their stock value looked pretty un-effected.

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  27. This means one of two things... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (1) When the Linux crowd proves they aren't using stolen SCO IP, the stock will fall apart, and these guys will face a shareholder's lawsuit and a serious investigation. Expect these guys to get the hell out of the country, fast.

    OR:

    (2) Linux actually *does* have SCO IP stuck in it, and these execs just want to bail out while the stock is high and before people realize that Linux will survive whether it has to pull some code out or not.

  28. Its called automated selling. by Stone316 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, most of the sells were automatic. Ie, a threshold is set and when the stock gets there a certain amount get sold. Its one of the ways execs try to avoid insider trading.

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  29. Selling not as descriptive as Buying by some+damn+guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    This doesn't mean they expect to lose. People sell stock all the time to do things like buy a house or invest elsewhere even if the stock is doing well. They could trying to diversify, anyone smart does so at least to some degree, especially if they have a family.

    Yahoo lists 82k insider shares sold in the last 6 months. This is only 1.4 percent of insider holdings. Even if the number is much higher this is not a huge exodus yet. In fact it shows a bit of confidence. After all, this was a $2 stock in January.

    This could be taken as SCO's officers hedging their bets, however its hard to say because no matter how lousy SCO's situation might be if it loses, these people may be already diversified well enough with outside holdings to risk it all. It's tough to say is really what this means. The CEO's cash salary was only $82k last year. We all know a CEO can't possibly live on that little. Maybe he needed a Bentley. Hard to say.

    Now if they were buying shares, that would say a lot more about the case. People sell for many reasons, but there is only one reason to buy: you think the stock is going to go up and stay up until the next selling period for insiders.

    I wonder what the various linux companies are doing?

    1. Re:Selling not as descriptive as Buying by elmegil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hopefully the SEC will investigate. Definitely sounds like a pump and dump move to me.

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  30. Also check out this story by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The very next story in the business section of the SLTrib is also about SCO (click the blue right arrow at the bottom of the original article or click the link below):

    http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08122003/business/8 3192.asp

  31. Use the SEC Investor Complaint Form by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Let's Put SCO Behind Bars:

    SCO's executives may be personally guilty of violating securities law. I understand its executives have engaged in questionable insider trading, possibly to take advantage of the artificial inflation in SCO's stock price resulting from its allegations. The quantities of stock being sold off by SCO executives does not suggest they really believe they are about to win a billion dollar lawsuit. For insiders to trade based on information that is not available to the general public is an offense for which they may be subjected to stern punishment by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    The stock of companies offerring Linux products and services may have been unfairly devalued as well. Stockholders in any of the affected companies - either SCO or its competitors - may wish to avail themselves of the Security and Exchange Commission's Investor Complaint Form to ask that something be done about this. You may not even be aware that you have standing to complain: if you invest in any mutual funds that hold shares in SCO, IBM, Red Hat or any other company that offers Linux products or services, then you have a right to ask the SEC to investigate. Check with your mutual fund to fund out which securities are in its portfolio.

    The article has a Creative Commons license. Please copy it to your own website, or to other message boards. Maybe someone who subscribes to a financial board could post it there. There is also a UBB code version suitable for message boards that use that format.

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  32. Re: Article on SCO Execs Dumping Stock by CaptainTux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Slashdot Poster, Earlier today it was brought to our attention that an article posted to the Slashdot.com website mentioned that SCO executives were selling off their interests in the company. This letter is to inform you that the terms "SCO" and "SCO Stock" used in conjunction are owned exclusively by SCO and any unauthorized use without proper licensing is a violation of our intellectual property. In a good-faith effort to allow the general public to bring their posts about the SCO Company into licensing compliance, we are offering you the limited opportunity to properly license the terms "SCO" and "SCO Stock" for only $15,000 USD. This fee will not only allow you to use the terms "SCO" and "SCO Stock" but also the more valuable term "SCO Executives" without the need to pay any further licensing fees. It will be in effect until August 15th 2003 after which the fee will increase to $35,000 USD and WILL NOT include the right to use the term "SCO Executives" in your posts. Please contact SCO if you have any additional questions or to purchase a license. We appreciate your compliance with our demands and hope to have a long business relationship with you in the future. Sincerely, SCO(tm) Check out the great Linux PC I'm selling!

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  33. Buy Low and Sell High by PineHall · · Score: 4, Informative
    http://biz.yahoo.com/t/s/scox.html

    Look at SCO VP Wilson did. He bought at very low prices 12,000 shares for $7920 and turned around and sold the shares for about $129,000. That is a nice profit.

    2003-07-15 WILSON, MICHAEL SEAN
    Senior Vice President 6,000 Option Exercise at $0.66 per share.
    (Cost of $3,960)

    2003-07-15 WILSON, MICHAEL SEAN
    Senior Vice President 6,000 Sale at $10.66 - $10.8 per share.
    (Proceeds of about $64,000)

    2003-07-14 WILSON, MICHAEL
    Senior Vice President 6,000 Option Exercise at $0.66 per share.
    (Cost of $3,960)

    2003-07-14 WILSON, MICHAEL
    Senior Vice President 6,000 Sale at $10.77 - $10.87 per share.
    (Proceeds of about $65,000)

  34. Re:Kinda says it all, doesn't it. by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article:

    • David Boies' law firm, Boies, Schiller & Flexner, represents SCO. Boies represented former Vice President Al Gore in the 2000 election recount and tried the U.S. antitrust case against Microsoft.

    Wow... Sounds like just the winning lawyer I'd want on my side in a battle against a multi-billion dollar company. :)

  35. What they'll do next. by dmaxwell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most of the SCO executives are still holding on to quite a bit of stock. They're going to have to pump it a few more times to get rid of it. Now the license announcement is causing slow recovery of the price but in real terms, the price has plateaued and more hammers are going to fall on them. SUSE has all but announced they're cooking up something nasty, Sony and other consumer electronics firms aren't going to want to pay for their bogus licenses. Last but not least, every kernel contributor is a bomb that could go off at any time. Some of them may even have money for ruinious countersuits of their own.

    So what to do? They would have a hard time topping themselves in the outrageous statement department. I see at least four more pumping actions they can pull. They can loudly announce that they will "soon" be filing suit against large corporate users. When the price flattens out again, then they can actually file some of them. Then it's loud announcement time again. This time they'll bleat that individual users and small organizations are being sued. Then they can actually sue a few.

    They're like a turd on the ground. Yeah, we'll be able to squash it but the smell will stick to our shoes for a loooong while.

  36. Re:Kinda says it all, doesn't it. by Software · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the government's lawyer, Boies won the case against Microsoft, and his cross-examination of Microsoft's witnesses was legendary. See here, for example. So, yes, he would be just the lawyer I'd want on my side. It's very unfortunate that he's on SCO's side in this case.

  37. Someone ought to add a "sco" program to Linux... by eco2geek · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I couldn't resist...suggestions?

    [eco2geek@Jean-Luc]$man sco

    SCO(6)

    NAME

    sco - FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) spreader and SCO Group satirizer

    SYNOPSIS

    sco OPTION

    DESCRIPTION

    SCO Group alleges that IBM misappropriated SCO's intellectual property and put it into Linux. SCO sued IBM for more than $3 billion (up from an original claim of $1 billion) in damages, and sent 1,500 letters to businesses warning them of possible liability for using Linux. Many critics think SCO's tactics are simply a way for a dying company to salvage whatever profitability it can. The most jaded critics allege that SCO's actions are a way for the company management to sell off stock at artificially inflated prices before the company folds (a.k.a. a "pump and dump" scheme).

    -q, --quote

    Displays a quote associated with the case. Quotes come from industry analysts, IBM and SCO Group officials, and leaders in the Linux community.

    -dp, --display-proof

    Displays the Linux kernel code that SCO alleges belongs to it (the result is a blank page, since SCO refuses to release its "evidence" publicly). Press "q" to return).

    -skl, --sco-kernel-license

    Displays the license agreement of the Linux kernel that SCO is distributing with its OpenLinux distribution, on its publicly-accessible ftp site. (Surprise: It's the GPL.)

    -l, --legalize

    Asks if you wish to delete the entire contents of /usr/src/linux as a way to prepare your computer for a "legal" SCO version of the kernel source. If your answer is "y" or "yes", does a realistic job of pretending to delete /usr/src/linux; otherwise, congratulates you on your wisdom and does nothing.

    -lb, --legalize-boot

    Asks if you wish to delete the entire contents of /boot as a way to prepare your computer for a "legal" SCO version of the kernel. If your answer is "y" or "yes", does a realistic job of pretending to delete /boot; otherwise, congratulates you on your wisdom and does nothing.

    -v, --version

    Prints the version and copyright information, then exits.

    AUTHORS

    Sosume Donchuwana and Greedo UnBridled

    DISCLAIMER

    SCO, the SCO Group, and OpenLinux are trademarks or registered trademarks of Caldera International, Inc. and used here for satirical purposes only.

    SEE ALSO

    http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=88

    sco 1.0 - August 2003 - SCO(6)

  38. A different idea by Phoenix666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read in Adbusters once. It was about revoking corporate personhood. Used to be that corporations existed at the sufferance of the public. They were allowed to operate for fixed periods of time, like 5 or ten years. Sort of like the Hudson's Bay Company. At the end of that time they had to petition to renew their right to exist. If they behaved badly, they were squashed like bugs.

    Then there was a landmark case in this country back in the 1800's (Santa Clara County v. the Southern Pacific Railroad) that established that corporations are legal persons. They have all the rights that an actual person has, except they exist potentially forever and don't have any of the responsibilities that you and I have. So essentially General Electric is in the eyes of the law an incredibly large, multi-billionaire. But unlike you or I, GE cannot now be put to death for its crimes.

    Adbuster suggested that either we revoke corporate personhood, or we institute the death penalty for corporations that cannot behave. Ahem, can anyone think of any corporations we might apply this to?

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  39. Re:Context... by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    No worries. I'm the father of 8 month old twin boys and _I_ found it funny.

    Its always funny until someone has to pay a dual royalty for having two children. At $2499 each, that means you own SCO 5 grand, and that price will double in less than a year when they hit 18 months! Still laughing?

    The article didn't mention if you received a license for one cpu along with the immunity from the standard baby killing. I couldn't find out on the SCO website either...

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  40. Re:Kinda says it all, doesn't it. by MuParadigm · · Score: 4, Funny


    I just found this really hilarious quote on one of SCO's early press releases (http://ir.sco.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=418 13):

    "Caldera and 'Unifying UNIX with Linux for Business' are trademarks or registered trademarks of Caldera Systems Inc."

    Not only were they putting Unix code into Linux, but they fucking TRADEMARKED it!!!

    Does anyone have any Ace Bandages? I need to wrap something around my torso before I bust my gut laughing.

  41. Re:Stay far far away from both. by some+damn+guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What he was talking about was not risk management however. He had absolutely no intention of even holding SCO's stock. He wanted to make money by watching SCO's stock go into the toilet. God bless him for it too, I just think it's risky for the reasons above.

    By the way, since we're quoting people, Warren Buffet, the biggest player in some of the biggest and most sucessful insurance companies in the world- and who knows a thing or two about risk management, called options "financial weapons of mass destruction" in his latest annual report and detailed his plans to get out of the options business as fast as he posibly can. Read all about it at BerkshireHathaway's website.

    To highlight the problem, he has no idea how long it will take for him to even be able to get out of it. The way options are used for risk management has led to arrangements that are stupifyingly complex. It's kind of like this- would you trust a billion line program not to crash? Of course not because you would never, realistically speaking, be able to figure it all out.

    Look at LTCM and Enrons adventures with options. They all thaught they were pretty smart too. Because options deal with hypothetical situations, valuing them is extremely difficult. You have many situtations in which people have widely differing valuations and this can cause chaos for accounting. Fancy formulas can only take you so far. The more complex things get, the more chances there are for things to break.

    This is a man with as close to an impeccable record as it gets and he wouldn't lose any sleep if options were outlawed. Beware, because some very savy people look at options and see a great big steaming pile of financial risk.

    Everyone shoudl put an option-driven perfect-storm-style financial meltdown on their list of possible 21st century catastrophies.