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War Game To Use Troop-Filmed DoD Footage

Thanks to Yahoo!/Hollywood Reporter for the news that a new videogame will incorporate exclusive raw video shot by U.S. troops stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Liberia, and elsewhere. The PC action title, called Kuma:War, launches next February (there are screenshots available via Blue's News), and intends to allow you to "play the news" with a CNN-style filmed introduction to each real-life themed game level - the article explains: "players could get a first-person perspective experience of what it was like to rescue Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch or participate in the raid that killed Uday and Qusay Hussein - staged authentically, right down to such details as the type of grenades that were used in the mission and the exact location of the snipers."

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  1. More video? by ChibiLZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think today's games are going a little overboard in the amount of video and the importance of it. Take for example Metal Gear Solid 2. You spend more time watching than playing. At first it was neat to have the whole 'interactive movie', but it does get slow after a while. I am all for a realistic war game, but the developers should make sure that the video is used solely for accent, not the whole thing. Of course, having the talking heads in between levels might be good, but it could turn out to suck. Film at 11.

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  2. Just like real life? by Hedonist123 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope not. Saving Jessica Lynch or killing the Husseins, being in the action is really nothing like what a video game should be, from what I hear. It's not the drama and pace that most of us look for in a game. Plus, capitalizing on these war stories sickens me just a little bit too. Hed.

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    1. Re:Just like real life? by Phronesis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Come on! Dont' you think it would be dramatic to go save Jessica Lynch? Unlike traditional war games, there would be no enemy soldiers and no killing. The object would be not to let reporters see that the hospital is filled with unarmed civilians offering to help you find her and take her home.

  3. Make it realistic.. by tprime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Some sort of forced feedback pain might make it realistic.. Maybe something similar to the video game Bond plays that could electricute. This does seem a little odd though, to take situations where REAL people died and make a profit off of them. Fictional deaths in games, no matter how realistic looking, are OK with me. But when you start acting out the real areas where people died seems to be an insult to the soldiers that died there.

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  4. What we won't see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I presume the game is too politically correct to give us the chance to authentically shoot up carloads of women and children at checkpoints.

  5. How much detail? by Palshife · · Score: 5, Funny

    players could get a first-person perspective experience of what it was like to rescue Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch

    So you're saying I could do everything including silencing key witnesses, faking injuries, inviting Fox News along for the ride, and paying off a military officer to take part in a massive madia fueled fabrication?

    Jeez, forget Doom. Where do I sign up?

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  6. Jessica Lynch! by metalhed77 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What a PR stunt for the Army. Jessica Lynch's rescue has been thoroughly discredited by now. (The hospital tryed to return her first, instead the Army ignored them and decided that exploding walls and using flash bangs was the best way to get into the hospital, the alternative being to call them up and ask for her).

    The saddest part is jessica's claim of not remembering anything about the ordeal. I'm sure she was ordered to simply say that. This is a shame, and an insult to the doctors who so cared for her during her stay.

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    1. Re:Jessica Lynch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      being held captive by a hostile nation that didn't follow the rules of war...

      Just to clarify, was that the Iraqis or the Americans?

      Remember, it's only a war crime if they have chemical weapons, fund terrorism, detain without applying the Geneva convention, use non-uniformed special forces, order assassinations of other heads of states and parade war dead for the media. If we do it, it's patriotic.

  7. That's why we haven't found Saddam and Osama! by phamlen · · Score: 4, Funny

    It makes perfect sense!

    They claim not to have found Saddam and Osama because they're keeping the film secret to make a surprise ending for the video game!

    "Want to know what really happened to Saddam and Osama? Buy the game and find out!"

    [ I also hear there's going to be cheat codes that allow you to find the weapons of mass destruction on the final level.]

    -Peter

  8. sounds good... by Frac · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sure I'll buy the game... ... but only if I get to catch Geraldo drawing battle plans in front of a cameraman. (and only if I get to run after him with a couple of Bradley's after he's fired.. heh)

  9. the reference to the Iraqi war and the others too by atari2600 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Money MONEY!
    Kinda makes me wonder...the Iraqi war that hasn't been justified yet (remember the justification was some WMD and now the experts say the trailers were for producing hydrogen) and here you have people cashing in on the tragedy again in the form of computer games. Sure it was great for CNN and MSNBC and other agencies - great business ... but from the article

    A subscription component keeps the action up to date with events in the real world (news - Y! TV). The initial PC game, due out in February, will come with eight to 12 missions in a traditional retail package for about $40. After that, players can choose to download an additional mission every week for a monthly fee of about $10.

    Does this sound ethical? Isn't this promoting war in a way?...also from the article

    The first title will include missions based on actual happenings in Iraq, Afghanistan (news - web sites), Liberia (news - web sites) and Korea. The game's missions will allow for both single-player and multiplayer experiences, which will vary depending on the actual events that are being re-created in the realistic, virtual worlds.

    Sure Sure you are re-enacting history but wtf - who needs to re-enact war really and these kinds of wars....? Ok Afghanistan was justified but I see Liberia above and Korea - is it North Korea - does this mean North K is gonna be "liberated"? Also when i say these wars have to be justified, seriously apart from the innocent civilians, don't the americans care about losing their soldiers? How sad would it to be lose your only son, to lose your husband...lose a father...Jeez mod me as troll or flamebait but making money off these kinda wars(Iraq) is in my opinion unethical besides being bullshit.

  10. Re:A new low... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    " And how long before a mod so that you can play as Iraqi soldiers who participated in a raid in which there were U.S. casualties ? My point being, it is all "fun and games" until one takes a different perspective on the situation. Mod me down as flamebait or offtopic if you please."

    Very good point, wish I had mod points for ya. I don't think people would be very happy if someone made a mod where you had to take planes hostage and crash them into buildings (although I have to admit, a mod like that would be very intriguing). Whoops, I'm probably gonna show up on Carnivore or w/e for saying that.

    But anyways, the point is....if you make a game like this that has an inherently political view, someone will mod it, and fight political fire with fire. This game would be begging for it.

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  11. Aside from the moral problems... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "A subscription component keeps the action up to date with events in the real world (news - Y! TV). The initial PC game, due out in February, will come with eight to 12 missions in a traditional retail package for about $40. After that, players can choose to download an additional mission every week for a monthly fee of about $10."

    Anybody else get outraged at the audacity of that pricing? I'm sorry, I will NOT pay $10 a month for a new fucking level. This isn't even a MMORPG. This would be the equivelant of asking people to pay $10/month for a new mod for halflife or bf1942.

    And what if you signed on after a few missions had been released. Does the $10 entitle you to all the old missions? What if you don't want a certain months mission, do you still have to pay for it? Aside from the fact that charging a large fee for a new mission is insulting and will not work, I think what would stand a better chance is charging a VERY LOW fee, like $1-$2 per new mission. That way you could get the ones you want, and avoid the ones you don't want. But fact is, with every other FPS game out there (that will always be a step above this made-for-marketing crud) giving free updates and levels away fairly frequently, and extensive modding communities, this game won't stand a chance.

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  12. 200 vs 4, someone is going to yell "TEAMS!" by Numeric · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay the Uday and Quasy shootout was 200+ American soldiers with armor vs 4 guys with Ak47s and pistols. I can hear people who are on the Iraqi side yelling "TEAMS!?!"

    Stick with www.americasarmy.com.

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  13. But there's more by metalhed77 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the govt. refuses to declassify large portions of the lynch rescue taking place. The hospital doctors had attempted to contact the U.S. BEFORE sending the ambulance. Lastly, if I was lynch, I'd be outraged at the amount of lying our government has done so far. Let's also not forget that lynch really didn't do that much. I'm not saying anything bad, but she is not a hero in any conventional sense. She didn't hold any bad guys off till her ammo was out as was said early on. And really didnt' do anything than be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The U.S. army has held her up as a model of courage, when all that really happened was that an unlucky G.I. got in a car crash, got taken as POW, and got busted out in a bizarre case of miscommunication a few weeks later. A hero is proactive, or has to undergo extreme situations. Lynch's situation was a fluke which she passed through essentially in shock. I'm not blaming Lynch at all, she did nothing, but the media is absolutely horrid when they call her a Hero as doing so robs the word of its true meaning.

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  14. Re:Extra! Includes the chance to kill Mustapha! by HiredMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are kids more or less points?
    I could make a case for either way... it would nice to finally have that answered.

    =tkk

  15. Re:Real life war! by HiredMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Same with the pharse "playing the news"...

    Do they mean me re-playing the news or we hear about "WMD found", "terror trailers", "children's prisons" and the "the noose is tightening" in headlines and then retractions, corrections, clarifications and caveats on page 32 under the fold?

    =tkk