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The State of the Game Console Wars

An anonymous reader writes "Two years after the next-gen game consoles hit the market, the verdict is in. What does the future hold for each of the Big Three? Here is a thoughtful but crude summary of the X-Box vs. GC vs. PS2 ordeal."

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  1. Who cares really... by desenz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Basically, it depends what kind of games you like to play. Although, those lines are getting a bit blurry too.
    Personally, I am a gamecube person. I have always been a fan of nintendos first-party games, and they are the only non-PC games I usually find an urge to play.
    Yes, I enjoyed Celda.

    1. Re:Who cares really... by RTPMatt · · Score: 5, Funny

      its all about the XGameStation!! I cant wait till this thing comes out, give the market a good kick in the anti DMCA direction! It dosent matter how good the system is, as long as its being pushed to its limits!

    2. Re:Who cares really... by Osty · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, I enjoyed Celda.

      I enjoyed Celda as well. Unfortunately, it's pretty much the only Gamecube game I've truly enjoyed so far (enough so that I played it entirely through). I admit that I only have a small library of Gamecube games, but that library does include Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime, both of which were extremely disappointing to me. In fact, Metroid was extremely disappointing, considering that it was the reason I bought my Cube. Luckily, Celda made up for Metroid and made me not totally regret the purchase.


      Right now, I've been playing Mario Golf, and it's enjoyable, but it's certainly not going to hold my attention for more than another week or two (just up until Soul Calibur II hits the XBox, at which point Mario Golf will go back on the shelf with Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime, to eventually be sold or traded away).


      For completeness, my Cube library consists of:

      • Mario Sunshine (came with the Cube)
      • Metroid Prime (disappointing)
      • Wind Waker (and the Zelda: OOT remake)
      • Rogue Squadron II (I was pretty disappointed with this one, so much so that I don't care that RS3 is coming soon)
      • Skies of Arcadia. I liked this one, but Knights of the Old Republic made me put it off to the side, and I don't see me picking it back up any time soon. Also, this was almost a straight port from the Dreamcast, so I'm not sure I'd really consider it a win for the Gamecube
      • Mario Golf. After Celda, this would be my best Cube game. It's fun to play through a round or two of golf, and I guess that's a plus because I can sit down and play for fifteen minutes or half an hour and then put it away. However, I don't anticipate it holding my attention long.

      Any suggestions on what would be some good Cube games to pick up? I don't have time to really play something like Animal Crossing (plus, I played the old Harvest Moon on the SNES, which seems to be similar in style to AC, and wasn't that enthralled), and I generally don't have enough friends over at my place to make something like Smash Brothers: Melee worth a purchase (and when I do have enough people over, we generally will play Halo on two XBoxs and TVs). And no cross-platform games, please. I'd rather play those on my XBox, though if there's a good game that's only on the Cube and PS2, I may consider picking it up for the Cube (no PS2, and no interest in a PS2).
    3. Re:Who cares really... by steve_bryan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Is this supposed to be humorous or are you so entirely clueless that you think copyright applies to anything you designate? If XGameStation takes an article word for word from Gamespot and publish it without permission or attribution (which may not be enough depending on issues of fair use) then you are discussing an issue of possible copyright infringement. But web site layout is not subject to copyright laws (not are recipes and many other things).

  2. Thoughtful? by acxr+is+wasted · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can enjoy the sort of tongue-in-cheek humor this article has, but I wish I could rate this as "-1, Redundant" for the front page. Honestly, it's pointless. This current generation of consoles has had their fates sealed for a year now. Anyone who would take the time to read the article would already be aware of everything presented. None of what is explained in this story qualifies as "news."

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    1. Re:Thoughtful? by Babbster · · Score: 5, Insightful
      None of what is explained in this story qualifies as "news."

      Amen. In fact, I stopped reading because the writer presented something that not only wasn't news, but wasn't even true:

      "Starcraft: Ghost, a game about a popular female character from the outrageously successful PC game who must perform a series of dangerous missions while avoiding being punched in the breasts, is now an X-Box exclusive."

      The rumor that Ghost will be Xbox exclusive has apparently been spread around so much that it's now being taken as a fact. The truth, of course, is that no such announcement has been made and Blizzard's official website still has the icons of all three consoles on the Starcraft: Ghost front page.

      I was nearly stopped in my tracks by the beyond insipid "penis chart." There was no way I could continue after the paragraph quoted above.

      Two words for the linked article: "Utter crap."

      Three words for michael: "Shame on you."

    2. Re:Thoughtful? by tealover · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let me guess:

      You own a GameCube.

      :)

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  3. Just like the domain name: by gotr00t · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's a pointless waste of time. The entire article does not really poke the surface of any actual fact, and is either mostly speculation (like speculting about how Sony will eventually need to make good on their promise for a PS3 in order to even be able to stand up to Microsoft, who "always wins") or just stereotyping about stuff (like how playing Nintendo makes you look less manly... if I read that right) Moreover, like any good ./er, I hate his pro-M$ slant.

    This is nothing more than a person's personal opinion on the state of the console gaming market today, and you would be crazy to site it in any research paper or anything of that sort.

  4. Re:PC vs Console.. by AntiOrganic · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The PC will never, ever take off in Joe Schmoe's eyes, and there's a good reason.

    Take a look at the hardware requirements for Jedi Knight II:

    Operating System: Windows 95 OSR2/98/ME/2000/XP

    Computer: 100% DirectX-compatible computer required.

    CPU: Pentium II or Athlon class 350 MHz or faster CPU required.

    Memory: 64 MB required. 128 MB required for Windows 2000 and XP.

    Graphics card: 16MB OpenGL-compatible PCI or AGP 3D Hardware Accelerator required.

    Sound card: 16-bit DirectX 8.x-compatible sound card required.

    CD-ROM: Quad-Speed IDE or SCSI CD-ROM drive required.

    Input device: Keyboard or mouse required. Joystick supported.

    DirectX: Microsoft DirectX 8.0a is included on this CD.

    Installation: 665 MB of free hard drive space required. Additional free space required after game installation for Windows swap file and save games.

    By comparison, here's the hardware requirements for Halo:

    Xbox.

  5. crude yes. thoughtful.. no. by binarybum · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I fail to see how an opininated piece of rubbish that lays out predictions, nay, edicts for what game console is the l3373S7 without describing the details of how the conclusions were drawn can be reffered to as thoughtful.

    btw: I think that infographic was already published in USA today.

    I turn to slashdot for informative tech news, not something I could find with a search engine by typing in video games +boobies

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  6. I wish for the old days by bersl2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when game companies were game companies. I hate Sony for releasing the Playstation, and I despise M$ for the XBox (and other obvious reasons). I think it's awful that those two compainies are not dependent for survival on the quality of the product.

    Call me sentimental, but I feel as though the PS? and XBox have no substance, no charm, no soul. Nintendo and Sega have all those things for me. It's something that cannot be explained by logic or statistics.

    Also, I know I can't be the only one who thinks that first-person shooters do not belong on consoles.

  7. Re:PC vs Console.. by porp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh yeah, here's the requirements for homemade lasagna, courtesy of Emeril Legasse:

    2 cups fresh ricotta cheese
    8 ounces grated Provolone cheese
    8 ounces grated Mozzarella cheese
    8 ounces grated Romano cheese
    1 egg
    1/4 cup milk
    1 tablespoon chiffonade of fresh basil
    1 tablespoon chopped garlic
    Salt
    Freshly ground black pepper
    1 recipe of Emeril's Meat Sauce, recipe follows
    1/2 pound grated Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese
    1 package of dried lasagna noodles

    By comparison, here's the requirements for frozen lasagna

    porp

  8. Good to see... by oasis3582 · · Score: 5, Funny

    that everyone else here thinks this article is downright asinine. Since when did some penis-fetishist's *opinion* on the state of the console war start to matter? If this works so well, I'm going to write an article on how I think alien invasion is the cause of the East coast power outages, and see if I can get it posted. Sheesh...

  9. Wow, what rubbish by fuzzeli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Finally, an acknowledgement that flaccid US Gamecube sales are due to the majority of American gamers being insecure in their manhood.

    The format of the article underscores this point beautifully.

  10. Re:numbers? by PipianJ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Worldwide figures are:

    1. PS2: 51.2 million worldwide (As of March)
    2. Gamecube: 9.55 million worldwide (As of March)
    3. Xbox: 9.4 million worldwide (As of July)

    US figures are:

    1. PS2: 17.7 million (As of May)
    2. Xbox: 6.2 million (As of May?)
    3. Gamecube: About 4 million? (figures not known, but estimated to be 2 million under Xbox)

  11. Editorial...not technical review by MikeD83 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think people should stop complaining. It was a quite humorous editorial piece on the status of the console industry. I stopped taking it seriously when I saw the image of the fake testicles attached to the Game Cube. If you take it as a light-hearted editorial- it's actually a good read.

  12. Missed the point on Xbox. by incom · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reason the Xbox isn't closer to the ps2 is that it isn't "cool" in japan, and thus the amazing console game creation prowless of the japanese isn't paying much attention to the Xbox(except for the companies that MS pays to create games). That, and the lack of good games aside from halo for the first year and a half of the Xbox's existance.

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  13. Slashdot's layout is unique, actually... by darylp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot is bullshit on the left, bullshit in the middle, and bullshit on the right.

  14. Re:Microsoft Propaganda As Always... by Photo_Nut · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Let me summarize the parent comment:
    "I'm a 17 year old proud Nintendo zealot, asking flamebait questions of a director of advanced technology in the XBox group because I want to irk her. I put what I can remember of the conversation on my blog and post to /. so that I can brag about it to all my friends. I feel cool because I got canned answers to uninteresting questions that have been asked by other zealots like me."
    This post wasn't insightful or interesting. It maybe even deserved a flamebait rating. I don't find childish antics to be a way of gaining respect. Before you irk someone on your own side of the OSS debate for giving credence to the "all Linux users are immature male teens" argument, go back to your room and think about it.

    I'll answer both questions technically:
    Q: Why does Microsoft refuse to give Linux a legitimate license for use?

    A: The XBox is a game console which is sold as a loss leader, so that the money can be made back in licensing fees from Microsoft and 3rd party software for the platform. Running Linux on it gains no licensing fees, damages the reputation among gamers that it is a game console and NOT a computer, opens the console to a market of people who aren't profitable (the people who buy games), and if Microsoft has had _any_ legal claim (Patent, trade secret, etc) to _any_ form of IP infringed on by Linux, selling Linux would nullify Microsoft's rights. Sony's PS/2 Linux is an example of a console implementation of Linux failing to produce anything of value to Sony. Microsoft doesn't need to repeat Sony's mistakes to learn from them.

    Q: What does Microsoft plan to do about the fact that they are in third place worldwide?

    A: Microsoft will study its competition and determine what it needs to do to compete in the long term. Being 3rd place selling over 10 Million units after 2 years of a V1 product from Microsoft is actually quite a success, and you can bet that Ms. Fryer is busy working out deals to acquire whatever advanced technologies she can to make the division more profitable, and in general turning around the revenue stream from being a losing money proposition in the short term to a profitable enterprise in the long term.

    Which technologies she's getting into she probably won't tell you, but I'm guessing that you will be able to do video chat at some point using the XBox 2, or maybe even the XBox. Do they really need all that horsepower (733MHz P3) as it is? The XBox is more powerful than my main computer throughout my 4 years of college!

    This year, a 3.06 GHz P4 with hyperthreading and 6 USB 2 ports is $1000. Imagine what kinds of things software on this device will be able to do in a box under your TV next year. You had an opportunity to ask someone who produces cool advanced technologies about what they thought was coming in 5 to 10 years, and maybe even influence her, and all you could do is rant to boost your "proud 17-year-old ego". This is exactly the kind of mentality that brings down /., and here it is with a score of 5, Interesting.