G5s Start Shipping

Re:Article? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 04:47 · Score: -1, Troll

what if i dislike the register or apple pr?

Re:Article? by th77 · 2003-08-18 04:50 · Score: -1, Troll

Yes, but slashcode also needs to allow users to correct their mistakes.

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Not the fastest anymore by Chris_Jefferson · 2003-08-18 04:52 · Score: -1, Troll

Remember those "We have the fastest machine ever" benchmarks (that were a bit dodgy anyway..), well a quick look now shows that Intel have since then continued ramping up the old processors and these G5's aren't actually the fastest machines now you can actually buy them. Oh well.

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Re:Not the fastest anymore by Chris_Jefferson · 2003-08-18 05:11 · Score: 0, Troll

OK, I got my results by compairing their results to the results I get using icc on a Dual P4 3.2Ghz.

I only ran SPECfp_base2000 (because it was the only test I had around)

I got 16.1 (higher than the mac result at 15.7, from the paper)

Argueably I was unfair for using icc instead of gcc, but icc is so much better, why should I use an inferior compiler? If there is a better compiler for mac then I'd be happy to see the results.

I don't agree that using gcc on both platforms somehow makes things "fairer" as it will clearly have to optimise for the different processors differently, so why not use the best compiler you can?

MrJeff

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more reasons by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 04:54 · Score: -1, Troll

1) Pay more for software than with other platforms.
2) Proprietary hardware.
3) Misleading marketing saying it's the "fastest PC".
4) Less choice.
5) Vendor tie-ins. Can't escape from Apple.
6) Arrogant arty Apple types that can't even touch type thinking differently.
7) #6 flaming you and scoring the truth as "troll".

Still suck by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 04:57 · Score: -1, Troll

Still a slow computer.

Apple: Still not worth the money after all these years. Still overpriced since 1984.

Re:Still suck by pmz · 2003-08-18 05:13 · Score: -1, Troll

PCs with Microsoft Windows: Still pieces of shit since 1985.

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Meh. by Mantrid · 2003-08-18 05:05 · Score: 1, Troll

I still can't figure out the allure of Mac's. Are these boxes significantly faster than the latest Windows XP Pro, P4 or AMD box? I wonder where one could find a sort of speed vs. price blow by blow breakdown? I'm not talking a Windows Fan Boy vs. Mac Fan Boy flame fest - just one that is as unbiased as possible!

Re:That box! by The+Bungi · 2003-08-18 05:06 · Score: 1, Troll

Once again, proof that "ooohhh, shiny!" is one of the primary motivations for Apple customers to part with their hard-earned money.

No thanks by mao+che+minh · 2003-08-18 05:10 · Score: -1, Troll

I can get the same performance out of $750 (+/- $50) worth of x86 hardware, boot to a slew of OSs on it, and play all the games I want.

If I wanted to extravagantly waste $2000+ I would buy a used Kia Rio, paint little flowers all over it, and run it into a tree.

Only 2Ghz! by MicroBerto · 2003-08-18 05:12 · Score: -1, Troll

Man that's only 2Ghz! I can get a 3Ghz for way cheaper!

Come now now, I understand how things really work -- but most people do not. When your number of Mhz is what people look for and base speed on, you're not going to sell Apples like this. I don't know what they plan on doing, but I hope they figure out something better for the longterm.

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Re:currently available configurations by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 05:18 · Score: -1, Troll

They can include all they want, it doesn't change the fact that Macs suck.

Wild by First_In_Hell · 2003-08-18 05:24 · Score: -1, Troll

It has been a wild ride, but like all great adventures this must come to an end. This machine will be the end of Apple.

They are already starting to have production problems. What good is a machine that is hyped, but nobody can even get it. There are extensive backorders until December, and even those are in question dure to the low yields that the CPU is gettin in the manufacturing plants.

Also Jaguar has been a abysmal failure. Jobs chose to alienate his user base by making almost 90% of the software obsolete with this new release. People have been turned off by the constant bugs and revisions to this software.

Talk about alienating user bases; what is Joe Schmo supposed to think with his brand new G4 he just got for 4K? A new platform that makes his look obsolete? At leat AMD and Intel still support their previous chips, what are we supposed to do with all of those nice Apple vanity mirrors we have purchased?

Face it, X86 is an inevitability. Apple as we know it is dead.

RIP
1984-2003

Re:Wild by zpok · 2003-08-18 11:35 · Score: 0, Troll

There's some pretty weird people out there. Copy/pasting the same old shit whenever someone uses the word "Mac".

Windows PR guys at least get paid, I wonder what these weirdo's get out of this.

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Pic of half-naked Asian chick using Mac by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 05:41 · Score: -1, Troll

And it is here.

Nice, nice, nice.

Re:hurray for apple by BJZQ8 · 2003-08-18 05:43 · Score: -1, Troll

The G4 was supposed to be the end-of-all-PC's machine too. The usual Mac supporters crowed how it had Altivec designed by Cray...and it could do gigaflops. Oooh boy that was going to put Apple back over 5 percent in sales. As I'm in the school "business", I can tell you that my former boss ordered boatloads of the things...only to see a torrent of crashed hard drives and fried motherboards. In fact they just ordered a wad more of them with 17-inch flat panels. I was never impressed by the G4's speed, really...I have yet to get on a G5, so I can't form an opinion yet.

The answer to the "Gay computer Posts" by eadint · 2003-08-18 05:48 · Score: -1, Troll

Dear Mr Trovalds,

I am a homophobic sexually impotent Geek with no life. I have no real skills because I spend all of my time in chat rooms playing video games and lying about my non-existent sex life with other homophobic sexually repressed geeks. Before Linux came around I was classified as a totally useless waste of human skin, with no skills or abilities. Now that Linux is popular a whole new world of completely useless sexually repressed homophobic have been opened up to me, we can do things like bash windows, RIAA, DMCA, and any other organization that does not think the way we do. Mr. Trovalds, there is a very bad thing that has happened, the other OS company Apple has come out with a product, Its UNIX based, highly engineered, and worst of all it actually does something. At this point all we can do is use our homophobia and sexually impotent ignorance to bash apple as the "gay computer" but this isn't working that well, we really need some kind of new ammunition. Since we have the IQ of a brain damaged lemming we are a little out of sorts, please help us maintain our sexually repressed homophobic sexual pseudo superiority or we will have to go back to jacking off in the bushes in front of high schools.

Re:2 things keeping market share down by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 06:30 · Score: -1, Troll

unless you are a graphics design person or love using a mouse with one button, I would scrap getting a mac. They are over priced. You can get a PC notebook for about half as much and it could still do the things that the mac could do.

Re:hurray for apple by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 06:58 · Score: -1, Troll

Great. Wonderful. Keep denying the truth and mod me as a troll, you Apple degenerates. I'm stating facts and you know it...but the truth has never been enough to convince members of the Cult of Steve Jobs.

Ugly by Jafafa+Hots · 2003-08-18 07:09 · Score: -1, Troll

I dunno, usually I love apple industrial design, but I think this thing is just plain UGLY. A black box? How 1987. Shape looks awkward too, like it wouldn't fit anywhere but on top of your desk.

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Moderators SUCK !!! by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 07:09 · Score: -1, Troll

Funny? Fuck, this is a troll.
Pro-Apple Weenies are having a circle jerk today.

Re:ObWhines by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 07:29 · Score: -1, Troll

Ah, so you avoid Windows problems with Linux problems? Sneaky!

But there are no problems with Linux!! You see if there are, I open up the source code and h4x0r them in like 5 minutez!! I can fix any Linux problem in -100000 minutes because I am a LiNUX k3rn3l h4x0r !!!!

sike

Mac Zealots are on a FUD high. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 07:31 · Score: -1, Troll

Trolls are getting scored +5 "funny" and legitamately outraged responses are getting scored "troll". The Mac jerks, who know nothing about computers except maybe web browinsing and using Microsoft Word are having a field day. Hey, Mac user, GO PROGRAM IN HYPERCARD !!!!

Hey, Mac Zealots !!! by Anonymous Coward · 2003-08-18 07:38 · Score: -1, Troll

The road to Redmond goes through Cupertino. Sorry, guys, you're still fooling youselves; you are defending Microsoft by your obstinance. You ****ARE RUNNING UNIX***** Quit kidding yourselves. OSX is BSD UNIX !!!! Unix means HARDWARE INDEPENDENCE!!! Your worship of Steve Jobs is just pathetic. Please wake up and grok just what's going on help us.

Re:Apple IS dying by Cyberllama · 2003-08-18 07:53 · Score: 0, Troll

I'm sorry, but my karma is already plenty healthy, so I have to come right out and be honest, even though I'm certained to be modded down as flamebait:

Apple as a platform isn't just dying, it's already dead. Apple as a company is not. Apple occupies a comfortable niche in the computer market because of its dedicated following and strong video processing capabillities. As long as this remains true, apple will continue to profit and continue to stick around.

However, as a platform, it is long dead. Remember back when Apple dominated the pc market? They were the first company and had the upper-hand. All they had to do was cling to their market share like Microsoft does now. But they didn't fight dirty enough and now they lack the leverage they need to ever reclaim it, no matter how super-special their latest offering might be (and btw, I'm sorry, but for my money, I still I get way more value out of intel or amd's latest offering than Apple's).

Apple no longer even dominates the educational market like it used to. No *serious* gamer uses one, and don't get me started on the desktop market.

Apple isn't dying; it's already dead. A band of dedicated followers and their continued innovation in other fields (think ipod/itunes) will continue to keep apple alive as a company, but I strongly doubt it will ever be taken seriously as a computing platform again.

Bring on the flames. . .

When will the powerooks get G5s by Unregistered · 2003-08-18 09:17 · Score: 0, Troll

Has anyone heard when the powerbooks will get the G5. I think it may be soon as the powerbook is definatly a major product for apple.

G5 in a PowerBook by dj_anisol · 2003-08-18 09:39 · Score: 0, Troll

Does anyone know what kind of timeframe until they put the G5 in a PowerBook? I am looking a getting one with a month or so, but would get not be happy if a month later they came out with the G5 version.

Re:hurray for apple by digitalunity · 2003-08-18 09:59 · Score: 0, Troll

Meanwhile, in other news...

Intel sold $3 billion last month.

Apple is still marginal. Great products though.

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