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SCO: Code Proof Analyzed, Linus Interviewed
Arker writes "Bruce Perens has now obtained a copy of the entire slide show from which the recently scrutinized SCO-related Linux code excerpts came, and has analyzed the remainder of the 'evidence' they presented there. Their other code exhibit turns out to have been the venerable Berkeley Packet Filter(!), and their revised line-counts are consistent with simply adding together all the lines of code that have been contributed by Unix licensees." Also, Iphtashu Fitz writes "A new interview with Linus Torvalds has been posted on eWeek.com. In it he slams SCO over the recently leaked source code. Among other things, he points out in the interview that some of the code in question has been removed from the 2.6 kernel ['because developers complained about how "ugly" it was'] before SCO even started complaining."
Come on Linus, stop dancing around the issue. Tell us what you really think about their claims.
There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
SCO has committed the most vile of sin. They not only created FUD, not only stole our source code, not only tried to steal our limelight, but they revealed that we used ANCIENT BSD CODE!
The evil ones must die!
Karma Whoring for Fun and Profit.
Filter the packet... drop drop drop...
You sure? I could've sworn they were doing some LSD and had a REALLY bad trip...
Why yes I am paranoid! Thanks for asking!
Here. Nuff Said.
The dogcow says "Moof!"
'because developers complained about how "ugly" it was'
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
SCO Sues Linus Torvalds for Libelous Crack-Smoking Comment
JoAnn
And dammit, why does Linus Torvalds have to have 'S' at the end of his first and last name? I can't figure out where the apostrophy goes. ;)
I usually say SCO, as in SCOTUM
Linux is dying!
Oh, no! It's an insidious plot to kill Linux by implanting BSD code, because as well all know, BSD is dying, and has been for over a decade now.
No no, it's *spelled* S C O, but it's pronouned "ass hats"
Vote for global prefs bug
I pronounce them dead. Time of death, the moment Darl opened is fat trap and talked up this scam.
we should probably update this classic guide to state that SCO has staked a claim to certain undisclosed, yet crucial parts of the Unix gun. Recently leaked reports indicate it to be the "load bullet in first hole" algorithm, which has actually been around since BSD muskets.
All attempts to fire the gun will now incur a $700 license fee, though there are no restrictions on where you can subsequently fire it.
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For his kids' sakes I sure hope he is. he oughtta be around for AT LEAST another 10 years.
Ten years from now, Microsoft is going to be aggressively marketing their Windows API for *nixes, and making cash off IP and Patent licensing to corporate solutions providers working in Linux.
Twenty years from now, we're going to see Microsoft pulling a SCO and trying to squeeze a few extra cents on their shares so Bill Gates can have enough money to retire on, claiming that Linus Jr. allowed Microsoft IP into the Linux kernel. The claims will be obfuscated, just like the example code on the OpenOffice.org Impress slides showing the "stolen code".
Thirty years from now, Bill Gates will be remembered fondly as the person who first brought computers to the common man, back when computers were"young" and still crashed. And back when 64GB of RAM should have been enough for anybody.
Fourty years from now, rumors will be going around, and inevitably, said rumors getting forwarded by everyone's mother and best-friend's sister, about how Bill Gates's brain has been preserved and there's a $4 billion cash account willed to the team that can successfully transplant his brain into a genetically cloned and grown body. And Linus Torvalds's name will be in every 1st grade computer textbook along with Babbage, Turing, Von Neumann, and that Apple guy whose computers still hold onto 6% of the desktop computer market.
Inconceivable!
They were doing some BSD! And they've been asking people to "sign our MDA".
To paraphrase Inspector Clouseau, they are asking us to buy "a leesenzzz for their minkee". But it is not their minkee!
...Nothing interesting here. Just move along...
CEO of the company, S-C,S-C-0
With snip, snip here, and some very questionable source code whose origin that cannot be determined and most likely taken out of context while backed up with ludicrious claims that have no bearing on reality and in fact show a complete disregard for sanity in conjuction with alienating their customers and angering those who created it in the first place while simultaneously suing those who use it and impressing on the community the need to imprison the asshats who are pumping and dumping their stock at the expense of the shareholders and in spite of FTC rules there,
Here a line, there a line, everywhere a stolen line!
Old Da-rl McPrisonBride, S - C, S - C - OOOoooo!
Second verse, same as the first! Everyone!
Do they still use firing squads in Utah or did they quit using that method after the Gary Gilmore execution?
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Hmm, SCO's word against Bruce's and Linus's. I wonder who I should trust. My head hurts.
Litigious bastards
Now that I've seen those words, my time at Slashdot is done. I can move on.
Send them a link to this article. http://www.perens.com/SCO/SCOSlideShow.html
See what they have to say.
If it trys to send you to another part of their site, simply hit back, and send it again ;)
I'm sure the 'owners of unix' can handle a slashdotting.
Speak for yourself.
Their stock symbol is SCOX, so the obvious pronunciation is "Es-Cocks".
Remember, IBM as a company has made their money by keeping their "i"s dotted and their "t"s crossed.
A former boss of mine was a retired IBMer. He used to give us handwriting "lessons". He kept a master copy of his own handwriting with all letters and numbers written. If he didn't like the way we filled out paperwork, we'd get a sheet in our inbox. So "i"s dotted and "t"s crossed is right on the mark.
I have to totaly agree. I have a IBM PS/1 running FreeSCO ;-)
The Soup
No spoon my @$$.
Shit, it hasn't even been two hours and already the site has been Slashdotted. Jesus Christ, give ME a chance to at least see it before you all start jumping on it! EEEeeesssshhhh!!!!
Yep, I can see it happening now:
SCO v. linux, coming to the evening news.I dunno - might be interesting to see the FTC's notes on these calls.
"Got another call today from somebody complaining about this company called, uh, "hell-bound bastards", or possibly "Skoh". The complaint was along the lines of 'that fucking Darl better not leave Utah, because if he does he'll get a giant penguin made of barbed wire crammed up his ass'. Caller sounded fairly annoyed. Possibly bears further investigation, in light of the 4000 other calls we've received today saying much the same thing. Sure wouldn't want to be this Darl guy. What kind of a name is Darl, anyway? Sounds like some fatass lawyer to me."
... Is the Man. I'm going to start printing T-shirts that say "SCO is smoking crack."
I don't think crackheads would want to be associated with a bunch of scum bag liars like SCO.
Taco:Yes, of course! The Holy Slashdot of OSDL! 'Tis one of the sacred relics Brother Cowboy Neal carries with him. Brother Neal! Bring up the Holy Slashdot!
AC's chanting: Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem.
Brother Neal: Armaments, chapter two, verse nine to twenty one.
Brother Neal: And Saint Stallman raised the Slashdot up high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy Holy Slashdot that, with it, Thou mayest slashdot Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy'. And the Lord did grin, and the AC's did feast upon first posts, trolls, GNAA posts, and...
Taco: Skip it a bit, Brother.
Brother Neal: And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou click on the holy link called Slashdot. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, clickest thou holy Slashdot of OSDL towards thy server, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
Taco: Amen
Problem with that FTC form is that there is a dropdown list that you have to fill in for "How Did You Pay the Company", and "mailed them a shoe box full of cow dung" doesn't show up on the list!
Groupthink is nonsense. Think of it instead as the law of diminishing returns and the laws of thermodynamics all operating at once.
The unofficial
eWEEK: For its part though, SCO has said that there are so many lines of code, and a variety of applications and devices that use that code, that simply removing the offending code would not be technically feasible or possible and would not solve the problem. Do you agree?
Torvalds: They are smoking crack.
...I disable sigs...do you?
IBM doesn't do things half-assed.
My one-word rebuttal: DESKSTAR.
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PGP Key ID 0xCB8FF658
Hmm. Well, I've smoked crack as well, and I don't think Linus is so off beam. Lets look at the facts:
Smoking crack is expensive. You need a fair few dollars if you're going to have a decent binge. For some people at least, they'll do pretty well anything to get that money. Lie, steal, whore.
Smoking crack makes you obsessive/compulsive. After that first hit, all you think about is more crack. You talk and think about it obsessively, and when you aren't making progress towards your goal of getting more crack, you're kinda depressed.
Now look at SCO. No integrity at all. Prepared to do or say anything to get more crack (an increase in stock price.) Talk obsessively about it in the media, even though their tales are demonstrably filled with lies.
I'll accept not everyone reacts in this way, so perhaps Linus should have been a bit more careful in his characterization. SCO isn't just smoking crack. SCO is the Skanky Crack hO, hustling a nasty bony ass that nobody but other crazy crackheads wants to buy.
Now where's that motherfucker who keeps on boasting about his SCO stock? I hope he's been on to his broker in the last few hours.
Excellent nomination.
However, I must warn readers of Slashdot that the terms "crack", "crack cocaine", "crack head", "crack house" are trademarks of El Mellin Cartel & Co. Any use of these terms in the literal context (as compared to "SCO crack me up") is subject to a $699 licensing fee, payable in small bills.
The good thing is we supply you with stuff you can smoke, SCO just stuff you with smoke.
This aside, I agree with the previous posts, and our records confirm that a Senor D. MCBRIDE is a serious consumer of our prime products.
Ceci n'est pas une signature
I wish the court would make SCO reveal the list of idiots who actually bought a SCO license for using Linux, so I can laugh at them.
Will we soon see President Bush coming to Europe with Richard Stallman and Rick Rashid in tow, demanding that Europe import more American free software?
How did he know Bush would become president??!?!
SCO - Sniffing Coke Operation , managed by 'coke sniffing glamour boys', driven by greed and overrated self esteem; lost their technically competent staff a while ago, and now tries to make money from their worthless UNIX IP ownership, by fantasizing unhindered by any knowledge of law and programming issues, and exploited by layers, Microsoft, speculating investers and their own greed???
"No, no, I said that a 'Caldera's a smoking crack.'"
2.2% No
maybe it would even be 0% No and, er, 101% Yes?
Kiwaiti
Member of the Legion Of Microsoft Haters
Definitely available for the 2.0.x kernels
/proc/cpuinfo
> uname -r; grep processor
2.0.39
processor : 0
processor : 1
I suspect alien involvement... because if SMP couldn't be developed in 2.4/2.6 without SCO's code, then obviously some extraordinary event must have taken place.