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Drink Coffee, Support Mozilla
MikeCapone writes "Heavy coffee-drinking Mozilla fans take notice, MozillaZine has a story on how some coffee company has dedicated a selection of gourmet coffees to helping the Mozilla foundation. Only half the profits go to Mozilla, but the coffee seems good..."
1/2 is a significant %, compared to the typical promotion offering a % to non-profit causes.
When they promised better java support for mozilla
What about the coffee farmers?
;-)
Do they get a fair share?
First things first, I'd say
Definite grounds for a brewhaha
Sounds like the perfect gift for my company. We're IT, and everyone I know here drinks coffee. Looks like I'll be Mr. Popular for a few days before the coffee runs out. Hmmm, mark me down for a 100 lbs, that should last for a day or so..
crack dealers are giving half their profits to SCO. Say dealers, "They're some of our most loyal patrons, it only seems fair."
So how heavy are you?
Red Lizard Ale sounds nice to me. Anybody got some connections with Anheuser Busch, Miller, or Coors to get some real $$$ rolling into the project?
Homer: So what do you call this stuff?
Barney: A double tall mocha latte.
Homer: It's not bad. (quietly spikes his drink)
Barney: Well, it ain't beer, but at least I got that monkey off my back. (quickly gulps down four cups, then burps)
(Cut to Moe)
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Does anyone know if this is fair trade coffee?
I see that it's possible to buy organic coffee, but I can't find a word about the origin of this coffee, and the farmers that produced it.
If this is no fair trade coffee, that I don't want to buy this: fair trade, and a right price for the farmers is still much more important to me than the Mozilla project...
After all, the concept of fair trade is something that should go well with the Mozilla ideals, isn't it??
Then again, you could buy your coffee elsewhere, at less RIDICULOUS prices, and instead donate directly to mozilla.org.
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That's great, except that they forgot to tell us how much money half the profit actually is. Prepare for the lame "Uhm, sorry, but actually we made zero profit with that coffee." excuses.
Mmm. After all, sleep is just a poor substitute for caffeine.
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As a side note, I have found coffee strength in different countries to be interesting. I'm from N. America, and when I moved to the Czech Republic, my collegues would allows comment on how strong I made the coffee (they would also make 1/2 liter of tea with ONE tea bag--When I makes tea, I makes tea. When I makes water, I makes water--Finnegans Wake).
Then I moved to Sweden. My in-laws quickly informed me that they only drink Skona roast by Zeagas (a VERY strong coffee blend) and showed me how to make it at their incredibly high strength level. All of my corporate English student who have been to the U.S. complains about the piss-weakness of the coffee there.
I'm surprised no one has thought of this before. We should support those that support open software.
A retailer brands a product with Mozilla (or Linux, etc.), gives a large portion of the profit to the community, and advertises that they do it.
The problem with previous implementations is that people don't buy too many T-shirts or mugs or things.
Those that buy coffee buy lots of it. How about a bottled water for OpenOffice.org, or a line of soda for AbiWord?
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...to stop drinking coffee and send all the money to them instead.
This would be much better for your health and for the project.
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I'm glad to see our addiction become our support, but I won't be satisfied till they release the source code to that "Worldly Lizard" blend, and pass it under the GPL...
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A scam in which all people involved perceive as beneficial...
We start by selecting 100% arabica beans from the worlds finest coffee growers. The coffee beans are then carefully roasted in small batches by our Master Roaster according to his exacting specifications and delivered to your front door.
We take eighteen ounces of sizzling ground beef, and soak it in rich, creamery butter, then we top it off with bacon, ham, and a fried egg. We call it the Good Morning Burger.
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"most puter geeks drink coffee by the gallon anyway"
Drink coffee???? I gave that up years ago.
"Oh nurse, my IV caffeine drip is falling out again".
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Remember how Stan Lee got nothing from the spiderman movies? ( /. story here) It's all a matter of creative accounting.
Are you familiar with the concept of "Fair Trade Products"?
It's about giving the consumer a choice. A bit like forcing (at least here in Europe) the manufacturer of GM food to clearly label their frankenfood honestly as "Genetically Manipulated". Here, the "Fair Trade" label helps a socially conscientious consumer to avoid exploitative producers.
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Man, I cant drink that mozilla coffee. It bloats me up.
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So they donate some of their profits in turn have an endless number of slasdot readers see their name, we buy a bag, i think they are banking on the number of bags sold making up for the lost profits. then they get great publicity on slashdot. somebody in their marketing will either get a fat bonus if it works or a boot to the curb if it flops
You're right. Everybody (i.e., large agribusiness) should be able to compete to exploit poor workers in countries with no human rights enforcement...
"Fair" trade would only not be fair market if it were somehow subsidized to be as cheap as non-fair trade. If you look at its price it is obviously more expensive, and hence a direct relationship with its share of the market (although even more publicity is fine by me).
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I might just drop him a polite word...
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
Half the profit, not the entire purchase price.
If they make a profit of $0.10 on a $10.00 bag of coffee, Mozilla gets $0.05, not $5.00.
On the other hand people who drink coffee are much less likely to commit suicide. If you avoid all the unhealthy pleasures in life then your body might wind up in better shape, but you will wish you were dead.
When's the last time you went to starbucks? Their whole bean coffee is about 15$ a bag around here.
Actually, caffiene is one of the treatments for headaches. Look at the ingrediants for Excedrin (a medicine for migraine headaches), and it contains caffiene.
Caffiene withdrawals, on the other hand, can cause headaches...
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On University of Michigan's central campus alot of students raised a fuss and got the local coffee shops to offer fair trade coffee.
;)
Maybe someone should do the same for Mozilla coffee on the engineering campus. There are only two coffee shops up there and they go through ALOT of coffee. Besides, its all the EECS kids loading up on coffee before the shops close anyway
They are running FreeBSD. This sort of pandering doesn't really do much for me, but at least these guys aren't pitching their 'Mozilla Coffee' with IIS.
The GM food is banned in Europe right now because US corps refuse to have their products labelled as GM. They'd rather not import the products at all and try to force the issue through WTO. Labelling is EU's only requirement.
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Coffee roasters tend to make a huge profit on their wares. It's one of the most profitable places in the chain, which is why you see so many of them. Mozilla is probably getting a decent chunk out of the sale.
Coffee addicts: You can get the same beans at half the price, roast them yourself with a popcorn popper at home and end up with fresher coffee. Sweet Maria's is a wonderful thing.
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And I bet you'd have no problem consuming the grapes that've been squished into wine the traditional way -- between the sweaty toes of white laborers.
That was the lamest copout; are you really such a germ freak? I hear Farmers Markets are cesspools too!
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So, don't let anyone ever tell you that Microsoft didn't support java.
So you've basically absolved yourself of any responsibility towards the people whose work brings a hot cup of coffee on your table every day? What a humanitarian.
But of course, if we don't bother ourselves with ethics, one can take that stance. Nothing however puts you in the position to criticize people who think the current situation is wrong and these people deserve a fair pay for their products.
I am one of the latter, simply because the economy is based on invidivual, voluntary trades, so why should those who choose not to participate benefit from others' trades?
Huh? And how does the Fair Trade concept violate these principles?
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when i first heard about the "Fair Trade" thing my first thought was that it was just another excuse to start a non - profit and then bully companies into buying 'licenses' or some crap. I still believe this today.
My girlfriend works for a non profit and its amazing how the funds get sucked up into 'administrative costs' instead of actually going to the 'cause'.
After all, if the non-profits fixed the problem they were trying to solve, they would by definition be out of business.
And dont let them fool you, it's very much a business.
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"With the profits generated from receiving fair wages, coffee growers can invest in health, education, and environmental protection."
And do they? I ask because many of these programs are just feel good bullshit designed to take money away from people that want to do the right thing. I.E. a con job.
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Other then splitting the lower class in two groups what have you accomplished?
Well, getting even one half of the lowest class up to the next ladder is a good start. Secondly, encouraging people to buy Fair Trade products, hits the profit margins of the exploitative producers driving them either towards fair trade practises or out of business. If they try to treat the farmers even more brutally, they'll lose them to the fair trade programs and start to get even worse publicity.
True but you also risk starting a class war in those places as the companies try to keep their hold on the status quo. You can end up doing more harm then good. Don't know if that is the case here as I honestly don't know enough about it to judge.
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On a larger scale, I'd say yes: supply and demand might keep prices in check (although it's still not the end all - be all rule of economy)
On smaller scale (such as coffee bean farmers) producers can be forced into selling for less than (the fair) market price, because they can't reach the right markets without aid of traders.
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Either way, the Mozilla Org gets money that it probably wouldn't have got otherwise, and you've got coffee.
I think this offsets any problem...
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