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Infrared Telescope Lifts Off

An anonymous reader writes "On its Delta 2 Heavy-Lift vehicle, the Space Infrared Telescope (SIRTF) successfully launched to its solar orbit at 1:35 AM (EDT). As a result of the expansion of the Universe, most of the optical and ultraviolet radiation emitted from stars, galaxies, and quasars since the beginning of time now lies in the infrared. How and when the first objects in the Universe formed will be learned in large part from this observatory's infrared observations."

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  1. Ball Aerospace Link by evilninja · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work at Ball Aerospace... I thought some of you might like to see the BATC stuff.

  2. Re:The electromagnetic spectrum by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Umm, d00d, I think you're supposed to understand that light was in those ranges when it was created, but redshift due to the expansion of space and the massive distances this light has travelled have resulted in it shifting down-spectrum into the infrared.

  3. Right, but they're talking about the Red Shift by dido · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, I suppose you know about the red shift due to the general expansion of the universe? The most distant objects in the universe are now receeding away from us at such a massive rate that the visible light they emitted has been so far red shifted as to wind up in the infrared region. There's a Doppler effect for light that causes light from an object moving very quickly away from an observer to reach the observer at a lower frequency than what was transmitted (the red shift), just like a car moving away from you makes sounds at a lower pitch than were it standing still or moving towards you. Because of Hubble's law, the farther away an object is, the faster it's moving away from us, and consequently, the greater the Doppler effect. This infrared probe is designed to view objects that have been so far "red shifted" as to apparently be emitting infrared radiation.

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  4. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by Biff+Stu · · Score: 3, Informative
    No refrigerators here. Closed cycle refrigerators capable of reaching cryogenic temperatures are big, bulky beasts with prohibitive power requirements. Furthermore, they tend to induce vibrations, which aren't generally good for precision photography.

    Of course, I'm talking about more conventional cryostats. The laser cooling methods that the poster referred to are only relevant for gas phase atoms.

    Instead, the telescope launched with 360 liters of liquid helium. It will last 5 years. When the helium is gone, the mission is done. You can read about it here:
    • http://sirtf.caltech.edu/about/cryogenic.shtml
  5. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by Betelgeuse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, it can get pretty damn hot with the Sun up there. If the satellite were out of the solar system, then it is true that cooling wouldn't be much of an issue. But, with the Sun right next door (astronomically speaking), it's very important that you have good cooling. In fact, this will only be a 2 year mission, due to the fact that the cooling system (liquid helium, I believe) will only last for that long. . .

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  6. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by supermojoman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Space is not cold enough to cool down the elements surrounding the camera so that they are essentially "invisible" to it. If you need evidence, take a look at what happened when the cooling on Hubble's IR cam (NICMOS) ran out prematurely. NICMOS was completely useless until it was serviced rather recently, because it was constantly saturated by the infrared light emitted from the surrounding instrumentation.

    I'm no physicist, so I may not have the terms right in my explanation, but you definetely need cooling for IR cams in space. NICMOS will prove it to you.

  7. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by faxafloi · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...the beauty of digital cameras is that you don't have to do the exposure all at once. You could pause, re-aim the telescope then begin again.

    Actually, the real beauty of digital cameras is that you can do several images slightly offset from each other and drizzle the light around to get a larger image at a higher. That's how Hubble's big images are done.

    Dunno if they're going to do this with SIRTF, though.

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  8. Some other projects along the same lines.... by supermojoman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are some links to other projects that have similar goals - examining expansion of the universe, faraway objects, etc. They also have sophisticated infrared imaging capabilities. The James Webb Space Telescope (formerly Next Generation Space Telescope) is the successor to Hubble, and Supernova/Acceleration Probe which, from what I remember, locates potential supernovae by examining data taken at fixed ground locations then points an orbiting camera at the calculated location to collect radiation data. Really interesting stuff!

  9. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by faxafloi · · Score: 3, Informative

    FYI: The longest HST single HST observation I found was a GHRS spectrum at 230,414 seconds. The longest NICMOS (infrared) exposure was 3839 seconds. It's rare to do a single long exposure. Most of the time, exposures are split and stacked, usually to clean out the cosmic rays.

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  10. Technology by ZenArchitect · · Score: 5, Informative
    As a member of the team that is building the ground system for the science center that will be the primary interface between the public and the telescope I'm happy to say that code is all Java based. We have managed to combine the best that the open source community has available with a couple of commercial products to be a very productive development team. Here is a sample of what we are developing:
    • "Thick" Java Client for proposals, planning and data retieval - yes folks, Java on the desktop does work
    • Estimating and visibility servers - many computing drone managed by a J2EE server
    • Web services access to all of the public data produced by SIRTF - Perl, .NET, C++ is doesn't matter you can all get the data
    Oh, I forgot the mention.... there is not a single Windows box in the operations system. It's all Unix based because... well you know why don't you?
  11. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by wass · · Score: 4, Informative
    You don't need laser cooling to get below 1K.

    Using a simple pumped He3 system, which we just set up in our lab last week, you can easily reach about 300 mK. You use a pumped He4 bath to surround your insert, keeping it at about 1.5 K, and then pump the He3 with a charcoal sorb, to get to 300 mK. In space, you can use blackbody radiation to cool you to the ambient temperature of space (I forget whwat it is, somewhere between 3 to 7 K), and then use He3 pumping to go colder.

    You can also get to about 10 mK if you use a dilution regridgerator, which uses a mix of He3 and He4 and relies on changes of entropy as you add them together, and then separate them out.

    However, this all assumes that the highest CCD's need to actually go this low. But if for some reason this is needed, these refridgeration techniques are much more efficient and easier than laser cooling. Laser cooling is when you need to go COLD, like microKelvins.

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  12. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I worked on this program, and actually, there are many many pains taken to extend this mission. There is a very good chance that the mission will last way longer than 2 years.

    You'd be amazed at the meetings debating kinds of black paint.... A lot of tiny details were sweated to optimize this lifetime. Electronics that do the data compression and spacecraft control are all situated way far away from the detectors/dewar so that the heat put off by the electronics will have less warming effect on the dewar.

    Anyway, SIRTF is in an earth following orbit, looking AWAY from the sun. By using some clever inter-planetary shielding and controlling the directions that observations are made, they will maximize the lifespan of the cryogen

  13. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by Idarubicin · · Score: 3, Informative
    Things in space inevitably drift a little, but the beauty of digital cameras is that you don't have to do the exposure all at once. You could pause, re-aim the telescope then begin again.

    Indeed. The Hubble Deep Field images were assembled in exactly this way.

    By the way, the parent post is modded Funny. Why is that?

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  14. Re:Digital Cameras in freezers on rockets. by CanSpice · · Score: 2, Informative
    Soon they'll try the ultimate, using the recent MIT laser cooling technique to bring down the temperature to below 1 kelvins. Now thats when the ambient cosmic background radiation will become a pain.

    SCUBA (Submillimeter Common-User Bolometer Array) on JCMT maintains a temperature of about 60mK using a liquid helium dilution refrigerator. It is probably the continuously coldest place that we know of in the universe, since it maintains 60mK for weeks on end.

    So no, you don't need laser cooling techniques to get down to these low temperatures for astronomical detectors.