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Native Java JDK 1.3.1 Support For FreeBSD
ap writes "Justin T. Gibbs, of the FreeBSD Foundation, announced today the availability of a native binary release of the Java JDK 1.3.1 for FreeBSD. He also mentioned that more attention will now be focused on providing a release of the 1.4.x JDK. Such developments should allow for FreeBSD to be better suited for enterprise uses."
Time for the BSD Babe post again... ;-)
Galileo: "The Earth revolves around the Sun!"
Score: -1 100% Flamebait
Yay.
Are the voices in my head bothering you?
Hmmm....
somebody tell me my ip address
plz k thx bye
Oh sure. This is like using a fat-free diet and 12 hours of exercise a week to bring a corpse back to life. Try using 20000 volts.
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They shoulda thrown in the "Games" icon too, since after all, there are some Java games out there.
"People that quote themselves in their signatures bother me" - athakur999
I made this post on OS X, through a BSD firewall. It wasn't a flame, it was a joke. Derrrrrrrp.
IAALS.
wow... first time I've ever seen the Bene Gesserit Litany against Fear written in 1337 ...
mmm... yeah... You see, we're putting the cover sheets on all TPS reports now before they go out...
This post does *not* deserve a "troll" rating.
Finding God in a Dog
Hassisen Kone ja levottomat jalat!
[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals
SLASHDOT has various personalities, and I hope to be the first to document them all:
,rsm jpe jstf od yjsy"
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Project Manager - dude was an ex-coder (visual basic 3.0) and now is a low-level bottom-feeder working through slashdot so he has some vague ideo of the issues with technology.
Anonymous - dude is angry. Angry about something but not sure what. Against everything: hates all religions, colors, air.
Modder - points Nazi. God's irony incarnate. Why are those who have the least leadership skills always given a clipboard? Like getting a bathroom pass from the farting-kid.
Grandpa - dude is old. Waaaaayyy old. Like grandpa old. Runs a plain-text website. Talks about the early days of Usenet and punch cards. Senile.
The kid - 13 year old. Thinks coding full-time sounds like a wonderful career. Masturbates at Guiness Record Book pace.
The ranchero - Indian or Pakistani. Got his full-service corporate Internet access in Bombay or Kurachi and his call-center job. Has his PhD in math or science, feels he somehow part of the global village.
The survivalist - bro feels like if you dicuss something over and over somehow it will all be okay -- like Microsoft disappearing. Can't understand the cat is already out the bag and has humped everything in sight.
Her - d00d is a chick. A chick! Runs her blog, thinks she's a programmer.
The speller - d00d is seriously into grammer and spelling. On a site where the debate is around ideas, brother-man likes to make sure the semicolon is in the right place.
The Oz - australian d00d. "I come from the land down under, where women go and make thunder"
The napster - d00d is seriously into alternative-rock and the stealing thereof. Talks intelligently about music like one might discuss a Winslow Homer or the Illiad.
Lost in Translation - d00d cannot for the freaking life of anything find the home-row keys. o
The scientist - d00d is seriously into fractals, 3-d Math, fluid dynamics, cutting-edge chaos theory -- allbeit from afar because basic physics and calculus escape him.
The microsoft - d00d is seriously against MS. Can't stand the cursor, the fonts, the windows, the design, the icons, the sounds. Uses it extensively to play games.
The thinker - writes long missives. Attempts at humor, sarcasim, wit, and pun are laudable; posts two-stories ago.
Ben Franklin - d00d loves chaos. Every judicial ruling is "another nail in the coffin of freedom". Has third-grade perspective of common law.
The formater - d00d loves to use to create which are
"This isn't a study in computer science, its a study in human behavior"
The price of eggs in China is dropping drasically. We now may all begin to vomit!
People discover the meaning of life between getting piss drunk and the following hangover.