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UK to Put Monitors in Every Car?

wackoman2112 writes "The Sun is reporting that the UK government has plans to put a computerised spy in every car. This "spy" will record every single time a motorist goes slightly over the speed limit, into a bus lane, or stops on a yellow line! It will report this information to roadside sensors and you will soon receive a fine in the mail."

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  1. Dutch minister: Curse control by Frans+Faase · · Score: 5, Informative

    A Dutch minister has suggested the idea to install a cruse control (with speed limit) in every car. Aside from this there have been experiments here in the Netherlands with such a cruse control that would limit the speed based on GPS data and a database.

  2. The Sun in perspective by ratbag · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Sun is a tabloid rag, concerned only with tittle-tattle, gossip, celebrity "revelations" and salacious pictures. It is not a newspaper and I wouldn't ever think of using it as the basis for a sensible discussion on any issue. Someone find a reference to this "story" in a real newspaper and we can talk about it.

    Rob.

    1. Re:The Sun in perspective by heli0 · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. Credentials of the source by Burb · · Score: 4, Informative
    For the benefit of those not familiar with the British press, this is the paper that brought you "Freddy Starr Eat My Hamster" on the front page. And topless girls on page 3. And such high, high, journalistic standards.

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  4. The Sun by Graham+Clark · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a terrible, terrible newspaper with a reputation for making up half of what they print and not checking the rest.

    They also have severe disagreements with the government and are not above lying to score political points.

    This might be true, but a second and more reputable source would be better.

  5. A grain of salt... by Shoten · · Score: 4, Informative

    Keep in mind that this is a British tabloid that is doing the reporting. The genre is notorious for fluff, demagoguery, and "sports dailies" that are basically half sports, half softcore porn. I'd hope to see something a bit more solid verifying this story before I worried too much about it.

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  6. Re:Issue by slim · · Score: 4, Informative

    WTF is an 'MOT'?

    I *think* the initials are "Ministry of Transport", but that's not directly relevant.

    In the UK, if your car is over three years old, you must get a certificate of roadworthiness, issued by a certified test centre, once a year. The certificate is an "MOT Certificate" and the test is an "MOT Test".

    Driving without an MOT or insurance is illegal, and you have to present both your MOT and your insurance certificate in order to get a tax disk, without which you're bound to get stopped and fined (or worse) eventually.

    The article is suggesting that adding the necessary tech would be mandatory in order to pass the test.

  7. Good website for UK drivers... by slipgun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anyone interested in issues surrounding driving in the UK, esp. the anti car madness which is around at the moment, should have a look at SafeSpeed. Lots of interesting information regarding cameras, police targets, why driving fast isn't necessarily dangerous, etc.

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  8. Ever heard of OBD-III? by BJZQ8 · · Score: 5, Informative

    We've already got this on the way in the USA. OBD-III (on-board diagnostics 3) is a scheme proposed by the EPA and various other government agencies to "protect the environment." Right now, every new car has OBD-II, which constantly monitors your vehicle for emissions compliance. Wonderful, huh? Well OBD-III will incorporate a satellite transmitter in every car...if your car goes out of spec, the government will know who you are...and have the authority to revoke your registration until you get it fixed. They will also have the ability to stop your car from starting, or stop it entirely if you are determined to be a criminal or environmental outlaw. Plans are already afoot to interface the system with "smart signs"...so you could be issued a ticket directly from a "SPEED LIMIT 55" sign...for going 56. The future is here! Limitless revenue for the government!

  9. HAHAHA "The Sun" lies by captainclever · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hahaha for those of you who don't live in the UK - "The Sun" newspaper is a fithy rag of a tabloid.

    They frequently lie and make up stupid stories.

    Don't believe a word of it.

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    1. Re:HAHAHA "The Sun" lies by misterpies · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not meant to be offensive, I just wonder if we USians are the only ones who still delude ourselves with the myth of unbiased reporting...

      If you've written that after watching Fox news, then you are seriously deluded. Basically, in the US, newspapers provide balanced coverage while TV news unashamedly chases ratings by being populist and biased. In the UK, TV coverage is balanced (by law) while newspapers generally take a political slant. Given that most people get their news from the TV, I'd say the British system results in a better educated public.

      This is especially true since there's little diversity of viewpoints even on US TV - the choice seems to be between rightwing and very rightwing - and very few genuinely national newspapers, meaning that "balanced" coverage is whatever the NY Times prints. In the UK, on the other hand, in addition to the balanced coverage provided by the numerous TV news stations, the presence of 10 national newspapers all with different political points of view, from unashamedly liberal to unashamedly neo-con, means that at least you're generally aware of other points of view, even if you don't subscribe to them.

      And anyway, nobody reads tabloid newspapers for the news. That's why they have to put a half-naked girl on page 3...

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  10. UK road stats by wulfhound · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just to bring it to peoples' attention, something in excess of 3,000 people are KILLED every year by cars and trucks in the UK... and yet the UK is considered to have a "good" road safety record. That figure is in the region of a hundred times worse per passenger mile than the rail or bus system, the equivalent of a fully-loaded 767 going down every single month.

    Hence, I'm in favour of virtually ANY regulation of motorists. Nobody has a god-given right to carry themselves about in two tons of steel - especially in a small and crowded country like the UK with an adequate public transport infrastructure.

    As to "driving at 35 when the limit is 30"... in any case, either of those speeds is too fast on urban UK roads. We have a much higher level of pedestrian (and cyclist) activity than the US, especially in towns. There's also a massive problem with illegaly-owned, uninsured cars and people driving them without the proper license.

    Anyways, to finish on a more /.-friendly note, this type of infrastructure is PERFECT to pave the way for robot-driven self-navigating cars and autonomous road vehicles.

  11. Re:Inflexibility means brittle. by hazem · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, all you have to do is tap your breaks. In most cases, people follow too closely, so they have to break when they see your lights.

    By tapping the breaks and then moving on, you can cause a "traffic wave" of stopped traffic that can last for quite some time.

    Visit http://www.amasci.com/amateur/traffic/traffic1.htm l for more information.

    He says at one point: When traffic is heavy and unstable, slight braking by a single driver can cause the traffic to freeze into a gigantic crystal. Like Kurt Vonnegut's end of the world story CAT'S CRADLE it's the "Ice Nine" of the highways.