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Mandrake 9.2 RC1
RabidChipmunk writes "Mandrake 9.2RC1 is out. Go get it with bit-torrent and speed up my download. I like the idea that posting to Slashdot could actually speed up a download. It seems so wrong." If you're on a slow pipe, don't underestimate the throughput of the postal system. Mark Walker writes "Mandrake Linux 9.2 RC1 is appearing on mirrors as I type this. We're currently downloading it from Mandrake, for http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com."
The following message was presented by http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com for all your budget linux cds!
"Mandrake Linux 9.2 RC1 is appearing on mirrors as I type this. We're currently downloading it from Mandrake, for http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com."
I'm sorry, but this is a blatant advert. Why did the editors include that?
--matt from http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
Go to http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
Thats right folks, http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
Don't forget, http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
No content in the links....just a link to the .tor's and some cd seller. Hello editors?
No more Micro$oft bashing from me. Its like bashing at the special olympics.
are there any previews of this? Screenshots?
Used mandrake few years ago, it was too bloated for my taste but I'd recommend it to anyone willing to try linux.
Try the Burst! client. It is great.
RC1 = Release Candidate #1
Usually followed by RC2 etc ...
I know Mandrake absolutely rocks, but isn't this a bit to much, making a /. story out of the first RC ??
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln80~Psnlbx]16isb572CCB9AE9DB03273snlbxq' |dc
What's new with Mandrake in this release? I didn't see anything in the story brief and I am too lazy to search for the info. I don't follow this distro (Im a RedHat user) but I would like to know what warrants a RC release story on the front of Slashdot. Is there some sort of whizbang feature that I don't know I need to have? Enlighten me!
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
Dont just "steal" Linux, join the club and help pay for development of future versions of Linux Mandrake.
This company is in serious financial trouble right now and they NEED our help, so if you download and like Mandrake please join the club! By joining the club you are helping yourself, you are going to get better higher quality software so consider it an investment in your own future.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
I have to say that after trying all of them (Red Hat, Mandrake, Debian, Gentoo) that only Gentoo really seemed to be a power-user distribution. Course that means you spend more time fixing than getting done, but boy is it fast once you get the system up and running.
This has been out for ages. I would have played with it over a week ago but I couldn't face grabbing ISOs over a 56k line :-)
Actually, I'd just be finishing about now...
"'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel.'"
- JRR Tolkien.
So for home use - Mandrake has always been the sweet spot - excellent NTFS support out of the box as well just generally very user friendly interface... not the heavyweight server backend that other distros are... My 2 cents...
Changelog is here: http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
Corrections from beta1 include:
- Rpmdrake now functional
- Upgrade from former versions now fully handled
- New windows are now conveniently centered
Urpmi and rpmdrake still complain about missing key. This issue should be fixed in the next beta.
Improvements:
- First version of Netprofile, the new network profiles manager designed for users who connect to multiple networks. Feedback is highly requested for this newly introduced feature.
- Complete rewrite of userdrake (user management) in Gtk2
- New bootsplash (graphical boot) with graphical design not completed
- Improved localization
- New font support for Indian
- Enhanced drakTermServ (terminal server configurator).
New software versions:
- KDE 3.1.3
- GNOME 2.3.5
- Evolution 1.4.4
- Openldap 2.1.22
- kerberos5 1.3
We're supposed to bitch endlessly about how this is an advertisement.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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the strongest word is still the word "free"
Linux is open source, its not a "product" its code. You pay for the development of the code, you dont pay for a license to run the prooduct.
You arent helping the open source movement or mandrake by buying from a store, they make more money when you pay them directly and you pay alot less money. Also its a more stable form of income for you to subscribe considering they open source they dont make money from license fees, so you have to support the developers.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
So what does this story have to do with Apple!?
If you guys are gonna run a mac site you need to run Apple stories!
(for the humor impaired, that was tongue in cheek)
I can't say I like these leech-cd companies very much. Even when they donate to the projects, it's still at the cost of a direct lost sale that would have supported them a lot more.
If you care enough about a project to want it on a professionally replicated CD, you should at least be willing to buy it from an official outlet.
Signed,
An Official Outlet
If the /. editors keep this up, Slashdot will loose its reputation for only reporting on important social issues and touching human-interest stories!
Yes if you want to support Mandrake give them money.
But if you want to support the various apps and projects give them money directly.
I think the work done on gnome, kde and X are more likey important to a typical user.
If you want that to improve put your money there, not on the guys making a distribution.
Open them in notepad and print them. They're fun to look at and if you stare long enough, you'll see things.
I guess the "hurtling down the highway" part is where you get the bandwidth. A station wagon full of tapes sitting in the driveway is just storage space.
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the strongest word is still the word "free"
The last time I tried linux mandrake was the 8.0 series back when I just got linux. I guess I can't really be off topic since there is _no_ topic. ... It took me a little over 3 days and I got my system back to normal operation. :)
The one thing I did like about mandrake is the usablity. I found it easy and "fun" if you would call it to use. Now I ran it on a 166MMX with 128mb of RAM. Memory wise mandrake wasn't too bad, but CPU wise the system would just sit there almost "frozen" at 100% CPU forever. Then when I installed 9.0 it was so bad I gave up and tried Debian. When I did this I was lost as a motherfuck since Mandrake babyed me so much. I actually had to edit confs and shit
oh , I guess there was no topic and I thought I would put my 2cents in about drake
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That quote actually is by Andrew Tanenbaum (from "Computer Networks"):
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."
Instead, this one has been attributed to Linus:
Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it.
The ability to do that is all built-in to the BitTorrent protocol. You just need a client which doesn't suck.
On Windows, I use this. I'm sure you can find equivalent clients for other operating systems with a quick Google search.
...when it's masquerading as journalism.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
with the blatant advert in that post I am wondering if they paid for the post?
Hrm.. that might be a new marketing angle from slashdot..
News for nerds, stuff that people paid 'us' for 'you' to look at.
anime+manga together at last.. in real time.
I don't get these types of posts. First its as if there's a presumption that Linux should be hard to use in order to be taken seriously. Then there seems to be the insinuation that because its easy(er) to use its somehow lost the 'power' of other less user friendly distributions.
I'd be curious to hear what exactly are the lacking features? I've been using Linux since 1998 and tried quite a few distro's before deciding on Mandrake (Redhat, Debian, Caldera *long before SCO*, FreeBSD, Gentoo, etc). They all function basically the same. My desktop has always been Blackbox, bash is set and gcc is standard.
If your don't like Mandrakes configuration tools you've got all the standard tools: XFree86configuration, Netconf, Vi. I'm not sure of a single package that you can get on another distro that you can't on Mandrake and you can certainly compile anything else you'd like.
To me Mandrake is simple a better thought out distribution, but with all the flexibility of a Linux distribution it can be as full featured or as limited as you'd like.
Quack, quack.
i have used drake since 7.0. i have bought 7.0, 7.2, 8.0, and 9.0 so feel that leeching an iso or two is not horrible. however, are they still viable? i love it. i can just use it like a mind numbed idiot, or use it like a geek, and not have to worry. and urpmi is awesome. but with RH snarfing up most of the server biz, and suse seeming to get most of the rest of the press, is drake commercially viable. deb, gentoo, slack will always be around. but their not "commercial" distros. drake does such great jobs with their wizards and hardware, but is investing time and effort into drake pissing into the wind. i hope not, since i've used drke for years. but...
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
Didn't the French Revolutionaries wear red hats?
Could someone review the following and tell me which pieces are going to be problematic (or impossible):
Computer: Compaq Presario 1720US Laptop (PIII 1 GhZ, 384 Meg RAM, 60 Gig HD, ATI Radeon Mobility Video, Built-in DVD/CD-RW)
Attached Ethernet (Wired) to a Windows machine without monitor (need some way to run that in a virtual console)
Attached Linksys Wireless Card (11b) in PC Card slot which is the only Internet connection
Attached Firewire HD (LaCie 360 Gig)
Attached Firewire DVD Burner (4xDVD-R)
Attached TV via S-Video TV/Out
Shared Printer/Scanner - Lexmark X75 PrinTrio
So, is this going to be a worthwhile investment of my time, or is some/most of the above going to stop working? While I'd like to get off my MS Habit, I have this need to use most of the above that keeps pulling me back :-)
Journalists tend not to blindly run press releases. Even then, they're clearly tagged. This one wasn't.
Or, if you wish to see it this way, it's news that Intel thinks it's got a newsworthy product.
By that incredibly low standard, there's no commercial that's *not* news. So it defeats the purpose of having a disctinction. I'm not buying it.
That mandrake 9.2rc1 is out is news, and that there's a company that'll burn a CD and fedex it to you is also news.
If this company were new,I'd agree. It's not. Therefore, it's not news. It's an advertisement attached to a story.
The same thing happened about 5 years ago to the LA Times. They ran a story about the staples center, new home of the Lakers, near a story about the lakers. The Staples story was bought. It wasn't labeled as such. The LA Times was lambasted by the major journalism associations. They later apologized.
Naturally, this begs the question: was the mandrake thing just a friendly plug, or can those be bought too?
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
As a casual linux user I like Mandrake. It supports everything on my laptop (including my Sony R505 - IEEE1394 DVD-ROM drive) right out of the box. It is great for anyone who is thinking of moving to Linux but does not know where to start (or have time dealing with compatibility issues that can pop-up). We all know it is bloated, but I don't have the time to work some of the other compatibility challenged distros.
For now I cannot go to linux all the way because of what I do for a living (anyone want to talk to Avid about porting XpressDV to linux), but I love it for all of my "office work" and emailing. I will give RC2 a try, and I support Mandrake as a company. To me they are they closest to "Linux on the Desktop". They support the latest packages and builds along with good hardware support. Last Friday I had over 300 SoBig.F viruses in my inbox before I got a chance to filter it out with my host's email server configurator (hosting service thing). I did not fear downloading them at all. I pop-ed them, then trashed them, while my co-worked was freaking out trying not to get infected... can't beat that with a stick, thanks Linux... Mandrake made this possible for me.
personally, I almost never burn a CD anymore for linux installers.....too much hassle. its much easier to me to create the network install floppy and pick a mirror(now a torrent-based install floppy would be uber-cool) the most complicated thing about this is writing down the server host name and the URL that contains the RPMs. once that's done, you begin the normal install process and you're only downloading exactly what you need in order to get a proper installation. creating the floppy is easy, just download the images/network.img (pcmcia.img for laptops) and use dd (winrawrite for windows) to create the boot floppy this is a very old practice, I know. but I'm mostly writing for those who don't. so conserve plastic/aluminum, bandwidth, and time and use the network install instead
Please keep in my that my ADHD keeps me a little scatter brained and I sometimes can't focus long enough to
Mandrake added native support for dual monitors in their 9.0 series distro. (9.1 if memory serves). Even if you don't use Mandrake Linux, that's a selling point to encourage that 5% of MS Windows home users that have multiple monitors to try Linux. Since these are some of the most techno-literate of MS users, a higher than avarage percent will probably listen - this is a place where Linux can win market share.
Who is John Cabal?
Myth #243
AFAIK you don't end up with a million and one useless daemons starting a la RedHat or Mandrake (yes, they are bad for this.)
Reality
They don't make that much a difference and there aren't that many of them. Of the ones there are you can disable whatever you want simply from the commandline or from a nice gui. What makes distros "slow" is when you try to run Gnome or KDE on a older machine. These daemons only take a few megs and most of the time simply idle.
Red Hat running Blackbox or XFCE is a fast as Gentoo running Blackbox or XFCE. Carve that into your chest with a knife and then show every Gentoo you can find. We need to get the word out...
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
I expect the next version of Debian will need to ship on a spindle pack, OR maybe more companies will offer DVD's instead!
Mandrake has a DVD available, but it's not free or even budget-priced, or wasn't the last time I checked. I don't really need all the extra non-free stuff they bundle in; I just don't like swapping discs.
Debian has a DVD available, but you have to install their funky little tool in order to download it. Not worth my time. Somebody, please just sell me the stupid disk!
BSD looks like it has a DVD, but it's also non-budget priced.
I haven't checked any other distributions yet, but would welcome recommendations.
Why aren't there more DVD distros out there?
Try;
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select
less is more
Just because a distro has KDE and 100 services, doens't mean you should start them all on your 166MMX.
..), you could have tried a minimal Mandrake install and done your configuration manually, and been up and running in under a day ...
In general, no distro is faster or more bloated than any other (some compile with fewer features, and thus may have a slight edge, until you need the feature
New web site up on how to set up mandrake 9.1 to ease the configuration pains of the new linux user. Written and catered for the moderate computer user. It covers how to get and install mandrake and add in most of the needed applications. Covers most of the major software included in the distribution, other freely available applications, newbie command line tutorial, how to handle some common and annoying bugs peculiar to each application.
PART I
1. Introduction
2. Indispensable Tools for the Linux User
3. Useful links
PART II - Mandrake Installation
1. Getting Mandrake 9.1
2. Installing Mandrake 9.1
3. Going through the install sequence
4. Using Mandrake
5. Nice things to add easily
6. Configuration with Mandrake Control Center
7. Configuration with Gnome Control Center
8. Important Configuration of Menus and MIME Types
9. More Advanced Configuration
PART III - Linux Shell and Apps
1. Navigating around terminal
2. Shells -- bash, csh, rsh, sh
3. Environments and Paths
4. File Permissions
5. Editing files
6. Linking
7. Finding Files
8. Using grep
9. Basic bash scripts knowledge
10. Running Remote X applications
11. Mounting Remote File Systems
12. Language setup for man pages
13. Handling Print Jobs
PART IV - Software Packages
1. What are packages?
2. Specifying Sources For Online Downloading - Mandrake Mirrors, Texstar, PLF
3. Packages to be installed from Mandrake CDs - Mesa, mplayer, Timidity, pan, gaim, mozplugger
4. Packages to install from Texstar - Macromedia Flash, nano, Real Player
5. Mplayer and Codecs
6. Other essential packages- Open Office, Sun Java, Adobe Acrobat 5, BitTorrent
7. Setting up SMB share for Windows
8. Using vncserver for remote desktop applications
9. File Sharing - p2p networks - Limewire, edonkey, lmule
10. Running M$ Office under Linux.
11. Games - SNES, MAME, WineX
PART V - Advanced FAQ
1. How do I get DRI 3D acceleration to work?
2. Mandrake Fonts Deuglification and Anti-aliasing
3. Email Clients and Web Browsers (Handling mailto: and http:)
4. Full Mozilla Plugins Configuration (Quicktime, Java, Flash, Mplayer)
5. Konquerer Plugins Configuration
6. X Windows xmatrix screensaver
7. How to adjust the sound volume permanently
This HOWTO is my first contribution to the linux user community, and since I have found documentation sorely lacking for the total newbie, I have decided to write one myself. It is based on my experience in the past month trying to install everything from scratch. This HOWTO will be short, brief and to the point. Further information can be found in documentations on other websites, this one is just for the impatient, and users who want to reduce their startup time. Why Mandrake? Firstly, it is easy-to-install, and the first distribution that I've tried that has come very close to the ease-of-use of windows. If you can install and customize windows, you will not have much trouble with the Linux installation. Who is this HOWTO written for? This document is meant for the average user who is at least accustomed to tweaking and customizing their own OS. It will definitely not be a tutorial on how to point and click or use GUI interfaces.
...I'm sure that the powers that be at Slashdot will not mind it at all if I mention that I have also been making discs of the betas available for sale at http://www.getlinuxcheap.us.
In reality, I highly object to such blatant advertising disguised as a supposed "news" story. But I'm posting my url here because, simply stated, if Slashdot sees nothing wrong with plugging that site, then as a loyal Slashdot member for many years I expect to be accorded the same treatment.
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.