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Roomba Robot Vacuum Gets Siblings

Victor Tramp writes "Apparently, the cute little robot vacuum by iRobot has siblings now! An article over at Forbes.com goes into some detail about the new Roomba models; featuring the Roomba Pro, which 'is an improvement on the original Roomba, including an intelligent navigation system..', and the Roomba Pro Elite, which is the '...new flagship model. It comes with a remote-control unit that lets you navigate the Roomba around the room, changing cleaning options as it goes.' I have one of the original Roombas, and it actually does a really good job!"

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  1. Packs by rf0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now it would be cool that if you had some of these roming free in an office building and they communicated about what they had done the you could just havea small pack of the robots constatnly cleaning

    Some sort of redundant bug system

    Rus

    1. Re:Packs by CausticPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good idea, but imagine getting off the elevator and seeing a swarm of these things just sitting there waiting for you under the control of Gene Simmons.

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  2. Great but... by L-s-L69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I still need one that can go up and down stairs, and clean behind my servers on the floor.

  3. This robot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...really sucks!! :)

  4. Dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ahh shit the vacuum got the cat again.

  5. Outfits for the roomba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Roomba may do a good job cleaning, but I'm sure it doesn't look very good in a little french maid outfit....um..unless you have a robot fetish or something, I guess.

    1. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by demonbug · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah yes, the classic Geek problem: Robovacuum or French Maid, Robovacuum or French maid...

      Fortunately, I already have a girlfriend, so I guess I won't be needing that robovacuum.

      (Only one slashdot reader was seriously injured due to the posting of this comment)

    2. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by KillerLoop · · Score: 2, Funny

      please. thats *SO* wrong.

      I'd be: Robovaccum or Freedom Maid, Robovacuum or Freedom Maid... :)

    3. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by Surak · · Score: 3, Funny

      (Only one slashdot reader was seriously injured due to the posting of this comment)

      Due to his girlfriend slapping him? ;)

  6. obligatory joke by mirko · · Score: 4, Funny

    If Microsoft made a vacuum cleaner, it'd be their only product which would not suck...

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    1. Re:obligatory joke by anethema · · Score: 3, Funny

      Careful with that joke..its an antique ;)

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  7. I want one with a camera by heironymouscoward · · Score: 3, Funny


    - It can lurk in the dark corners at night and photograph burglars using its infrared lights.

    - It can monitor the light levels and tell the lights to brighten or dim accordingly.

    - I can surf to it (of course it has wifi and an IP address) and if we get two of them, we can play "robowars" in the hallway.

    - The camera can rotate upwards and ... uh-oh, the boss is here, gotta get back to work.

    "Just cleaning the floor, boss!"

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  8. does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by kaltkalt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if it doesn't automatically move over to the re-charging unit when it's running low on power, self-recharge, and then automatically start cleaning again when fully charged, it's worthless IMO.

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    1. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by ramk13 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Have you seen one? I've used the original. As far as I know they have no 'auto charging' capability. You pick it up when it dies and then plug it into the charger. It's very far from worthless though.

      You just clean one or two rooms a day, and you don't have to watch it while it's doing it. It's very convenient, even without the auto recharge feature you are talking about. Features like intellegent autocharging and networking probably won't be in consumer vacuums for a little while. (Especially since a viable Roomba competitor hasn't popped up.)

    2. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by MoobY · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've seen a demonstration of a robot vacuum cleaner a couple of weeks ago (I can't remember the brand, but it was a yellow robot). This vacuum robot did manage to go back to the recharger. But that was not the only thing it could do, it also dumped the collected dust into a container sitting in the recharger, so you never had to actually do anything with the robot, as it was able to feed itself and get rid of the dust. It was however a tad more expensive than the the roomba (but I can't remember the correct price tag either).

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    3. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by allanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if it doesn't automatically move over to the re-charging unit when it's running low on power, self-recharge, and then automatically start cleaning again when fully charged, it's worthless IMO.


      Are you seriously saying that not having to actually vacuum, but merely recharge and empty the thing, is worthless? The actual vacuuming is by far the most timeconsuming part of cleaning the floors.


      Have you heard of the law of diminishing returns? One interpretation says that solving most of the problem is easy (and cheap), but solving the entire problem is hard (and costly). I'm pretty sure that devices such as you've required does exist (other posters refer to such units, but I have not seen specific links yet), but it probably costs WAAAY more than the lowly Roomba. Not to mention the fact that devices with more advanced capabilities - such as those mentioned by you - are more likely to fail because of unexpected situations that the developers were not given enough time to properly deal with.

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    4. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Sanctuary · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do you mean this?
      Cye Personal Robot

    5. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by clifyt · · Score: 2, Informative

      "You pick it up when it dies and then plug it into the charger. It's very far from worthless though"

      Yeah -- but unless you have the rapid 2.5 Hour Recharger -- this is VERY annoying. I think even the new Pro models come without this important piece.

      I just picked one up the original this weekend and its VERY cool. But the fact that I can get a single large room and half of my hallway in a day is a problem. It takes 12 hours to recharge otherwise. On weekdays -- this isn't as bad as on the weekend -- on the weekend, I spend a lot more time at home and I know I'm going to kill the battery by doing half charges.

      Still a GREAT machine -- I'm just pissed I got caught behind the curve for once exactly how my friends always scream they are going put off buying something because 'a new version is just around the corner' -- with me telling them they are idiots. I've wanted one of these for over a year now and I had a little extra money, so I don't feel bad about the purchase -- but I'm SERIOUSLY thinking of taking the standard back in for a Pro as soon as the local Sharper Image has one in stock.

    6. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by molarmass192 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Karcher one looks very cool but it's $3000 AUD (~$2000 USD). I'm not paying $2K for a vacuum cleaner unless it does a heck of a lot more than just sweep the rugs.

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  9. Hopefully by kinnell · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hopefully the Super Roomba Pro Elite 300 Deluxe will have suckers on its wheels, so it can also climb up walls and suck the bugs of my ceiling. Otherwise, I'll stick with a regular vacuum cleaner.

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  10. Seems cheaper than we think by neglige · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [...] but it's still a bit pricey [...]

    I thought so, too - at first. But the article mentions that the Pro Elite (the 'flagship', other models might be even cheaper) will sell at $250. And that is - to my mind - an acceptable price. A good vacuum cleaner won't be much cheaper.

    I really have to start thinking about getting one. Earlier models sold for several hundred or even thousand dollar. A test would be nice though, because my robo would have to deal with 2 cats (bonus points for hovering up to the sofa and cleaning all the hairs off it)...

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  11. Re:Interesting... by nonmaskable · · Score: 5, Informative

    It works great on the medium thickness carpet (as well as the wood and tile) in my home. Cleaning carpet seems to hit the battery harder than cleaning wood, so you can pretty much only get one large and one small room on a charge.

    On any surface, it doesn't replace a once every few months hand cleaning with a regular vacuum, but for a once or twice a week cleaning, it really does work.

  12. Siblings... by watzinaneihm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently, the cute little robot vacuum by iRobot has siblings now!
    I knew these things were intelligent and all, but procreating robots!!!
    Cute, my foot!! Anyone knows how to neuter them thingies ?

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  13. What if they turn against us? by ExEleven · · Score: 2, Funny

    Didnt anyone learn anything by watching The Animatrix DVD Part 1 and 2.

  14. I told a friend by cra · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . about this robot, and since he is single, he said that this would be the perfect product for any single guy. Until he found out that it is powered on only 30 wats. Then he found out that it probably don't suck that well. :-)

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  15. I for one... by Channard · · Score: 3, Funny

    .. am creeped out by the idea of sentient cleaner robots running around, ever since I saw the 'Paradise Towers' episode of Dr Who where the robots took to cleaning up humans. It's a short step from cleaner robots to plasma gun toting Terminators. Honest (adjusts tin foil hat)

  16. Dyson DC06 Robot? by EddWo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whatever happened to the Dyson DC06? That was the first robot vacuum I've seen presented and it seemed to have the most intelligence. They don't seem to have sold very many though. Maybe the price put people off.

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  17. Re:Interesting... by ramk13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can head to a Sharper Image store if there's one nearby you and ask for a demo. I went with my cousin when he got one for my uncle. It works well for maintenance cleaning.

  18. DIY roomba by MoobY · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm currently working on a project to mount my handheld vacuum cleaner on top of a robot made with my Lego Mindstorms set. You can program the bot yourself, add some extra intelligence. I'm pretty sure I'll have a robot vacuuming my floors pretty soon, without having to spend the $200 on it. And as an extra, it's great fun building and programming one!

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    1. Re:DIY roomba by ramk13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to knock the project, which sounds super cool, but doesn't the cost of a mindstorms set + a handheld vacuum easily approach $150-200? Maybe if you can get a smaller mindstorms set, or if you already have one, it would make sense.

    2. Re:DIY roomba by bpb213 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course, doing it yourself is very fun, and possible to stay under $200 by avoiding legos.
      Just look here for a competition for this type of stuff:
      http://www.botlanta.org/rally2003/vac_phot os.html

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  19. A mature product already exists by CoderByBirth · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Swedish house appliance manufacturer Electrolux has a model called Trilobite which has been around for a couple of years.

    I haven't seen this sucker in action, but if memory serves me correctly it should be able to move around your home on flat surfaces, avoid obstacles and return to the power station.

    1. Re:A mature product already exists by EddWo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice use of Flash here.
      http://trilobite.electrolux.co.uk/

      They say it can recharge itself automatically.
      It must build an internal map remember how far it moved to return to recharging station.

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    2. Re:A mature product already exists by bhima · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is one on display at one of the stores here in Graz, I don't remember exactly how much, but I think it was over 700 Euros. Which is much more than roomba.

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    3. Re:A mature product already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have one and it works very well!

      It's a bit more expensive, but looks much better and
      finds the chargestation automatically when needed.

    4. Re:A mature product already exists by Judge_Fire · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's quite advanced. It builds a map, but isn't tied to it. For navigation, it has a sonar which crackles in a wickedly robotic way, when it tries to find the power station.

      If you accidentally nudge it, when its loading, it will bleep in a slightly annoyed tone and replace its, umm, hindside on the connectors.

      So it actually has a bit of personality and really feels like a semi-sentient robotic pal.

      J

  20. If only.. by Sunnan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...I could manage to keep our floor uncluttered enough for these to be useful. (In which case I wouldn't need them because it wouldn't be too hard to do it myself.)

    1. Re:If only.. by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ya, that was my other concern :P

      I just picture it swinging by the computer in the livingroom and getting all caught up in the cabling and such :|

      N.

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  21. Durability of Roomba? by Channard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One thing occurs to me regards the Roomba - just how well does it stand up to kids? It sounds like a great invention but knowing how much stress kids can put on pieces of equipment. Especially equipment that might attract their attention by moving around of its own accord? Clearly it can't be expected to withstand Little Billy pushing it downstairs just to see what would happen, but can the Roomba's withstand bumps and knocks?

    1. Re:Durability of Roomba? by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      After intentionally disabling the ledge sensors in mine and having it take a tumble down a flight of stairs I can tell you that this is one of the most durable mobile appliances in my house, easily tougher than my normal vacuum cleaner.

    2. Re:Durability of Roomba? by jtregear · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have kids and it hasn't been a problem. The Roomba just vacuums them right up along with all the other stuff.

  22. Re:Interesting... by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The problem is that on a hard floor nothing beats a broom and one of the new variety of "sticky" mops. They also have the advanage of being cheap, nonelectric and lasting for as long as you do.

    For carpet I've found nothing that beats a good set of Oreck products. You really need line power to do a good job here. Orecks are a bit on the expensive side compared to a Hoover or Eureka, but damned cheap compared to a Kirby or Electrolux ( you can get an Oreck upright, handheld AND steamer for the price of one Kirby)and competitively priced with the Roomba itself.

    The Roomba strikes me as an "intermediate" product. It'll do a kind of a good job between times when you do it properly. This may be a legitimate niche for some people, but I find I can do an equal job in only a handful of minutes ( like during television commercials) with the broom and a damp rag.

    Having an automatic floor cleaning "maid" is an old dream ( often fulfilled with an actual maid) but we aren't quite there yet.

    The convenience and the cost of the Roomba just don't quite add up to the amount of labor saved yet.

    KFG

  23. This one does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.megapool.nl/site/modules/showhtml.asp?s trCondition=a&intGroepID=557 From Karcher, site is in Dutch. Mod me up, this thing is much cooler than a Roomba.

  24. The Karcher RoboCleaner is much better by markus_baertschi · · Score: 5, Informative

    I prefer the Karcher RoboCleaner for one important reason:

    It requires almost no manual intervention

    You just tell it how often it should go out and clean and once in a while you empty the dirt in the base station. No other interventions are necessary.

    Il empties its dirt container itself and recharges itself automatically et the base station.

    Details here

    Markus

    1. Re:The Karcher RoboCleaner is much better by bobbyque · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice unit, but did you check the price? $2995. Ten Roombas could do a whole lotta cleaning...

  25. Sucks for me... by CheapScott · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...but in a good way!

    I bought a Rooma a couple of weeks ago after the last article that mentioned about the cheap (money-wise and quality-wise) competitor. We have two cats, two dogs, and hardwood floors. We "set it free" each morning as we go out to work. We didn't do it yesterday, and I noticed it as I was lying on the floor...sand and hair. It really does a good job for us.

    As far as having the ability to go back and recharge itself when it's done...yeah, it'd be nice, but it works fine for us how it is. Otherwise, we (i.e. my wife) would have to be dragging out the regular vaccuum every day. It does great in terms of just maintaining a sane level of cleanliness.

    I can see a future of fleets of these things roaming a hotel cleaning all of the rooms. Sort of reminds me of the robots from Minority Report.

  26. Roomba vs Aibo? by nai · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Next match on battlebots! A $200 vacuum versus a $2000 dog? Let's place your bet!

  27. It's time for a Robotics category by Onnimikki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With so many robotics stories lately (Japan's Proposed 30-Year Robot Program, Robots for Air Force Protection, Swimming Cockroach Robot Developed, etc.), it's time that Slashdot made up a new category as opposed to filing them under "Upgrades".

  28. Didn't like my Roomba by Laur · · Score: 5, Informative
    I bought a Roomba as soon as it came out and ended up returning it within a week. My experiences were thus:

    1. It sucked at sucking. It would roll over the same piece of fuzz on the carpet several times and still not pick it up. It just plain didn't work too well. At best it could be a supplement to a regular vacuum, but I didn't think it was worth it.

    2. It wasn't much quieter then a regular vacuum. You couldn't really do much while it was working, such as watch TV in the next room. You couldn't ignore it, it was just too loud. This might be okay for people who leave the house often and run it then, but if you're home and just don't like to vacuum this isn't gaining you much.

    3. The heuristics didn't work to well. Maybe they worked great in the lab with a perfectly square room, but when it needs to work in the real world and go around furniture it seems to fail miserably. It would go over the same patch of floor 5 or 6 times, yet never go over the patch 5 feet away within the time allowed.

    4. It couldn't transition from tile to carpet as advertised. It tried to go over at an angle, got stuck with one wheel on, one off, and proceeded to start rubbing a black rubber mark in my carpet (yes, the carpet/tile transition height was within advertised limits).

    I know other people have these and love them, but these are my experiences (YMMV). I found that manually vacuuming and sweeping took much less time and did a much better job. Further, the Roomba can't replace manually sweeping and vacuuming, it can only supplement it, and IMHO the price is too high for that.

    I certainly wish iRobot the best of luck with the Roomba, since success with this early model will lead to continuously improved products. I am certainly not against robotic appliances, I also have a Robomower and love it. It has many advantages over a manual mower and no drawbacks (except a bit higher price tag, but the benefits far outweigh this IMHO). It's very quit (I can run it at night), nearly maintenance free (it mulches while it cuts, no bag to empty, no engine to maintain), and completely replaces a standard mower. I long for the day when we have more products like this, but I just didn't think the first gen Roomba was it.

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    1. Re:Didn't like my Roomba by technomancerX · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Interesting... I wonder if there was something wrong with your unit. We've had ours for about 2 weeks and it works great, picking up fuzz and even our dog's hair and leaving clean carpets and hardwood floors. Also, we've run it in an odd shaped hallway as well as in a living room and dining room full of furniture and it did hit everything, you just need to let it run until it tells you it's finished.

      I will agree that the transitions are a bit rocky going from one surface to another. The solution is to use the virtual wall units to block transition spots and run it once on each side of a transition. For example our kitchen is linoleum and our living room is carpeted, so we run it separately in the lving room and kitchen.

      What's really nice about it is that you can close it in a room and let it go and then come back later when it's finished running. That's what we do with the bedrooms in our house. The thing has decreased the time we spend vacuuming by about 90%.

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    2. Re:Didn't like my Roomba by ashultz · · Score: 2, Interesting


      I had the same problems. It sometimes treated a floor to carpet edge as a wall. It couldn't deal with complicated geometries created by furniture. It didn't pick up anything bigger than a speck.

      If your home already looks like Martha Stewarts - clean, neat, organized - you might want a Roomba. If it doesn't, you'll have to move the furniture and stuff until it does, at which point running the vaccum yourself will take only a few moments and do a better job.

      This is a product for people whose perfect houses have dust, not for people who really would want a robot vaccum.

  29. Getting your house "Roomba-ready" by leinhos · · Score: 3, Informative

    We got a Roomba last December, and it took a little while to get our 1st floor completely "roomba-ready". All the kid's toys get thrown in baskets, I pick up a tassled rug and throw it over a radiator, and I use a virtual wall unit to block a threshold that the Roomba *always* gets stuck on (even though it's below the advertised limit). Now, after dinner, we get our entire 1st floor roomba-ready (pick up toys, move chairs, etc.), and all go upstairs for the kid's baths + stories + bedtime. By the time the kid's are in bed, the Roomba's done (45-60 minutes or so). We still have to vacume every other week or so, but the Roomba keeps the floors cleaner between manual cleaning. Sure, I could sweep every night, but the Roomba does it while I'm doing something else. I figure it saves me 10-15 minutes each day, which is great for those of us with small children. So in the past year, I figure the Roomba has saved me 60-90 hours of free time, which translates to about $2-3/hour. If the thing lasts another year without any maintenance costs, then we're talking about $1-1.50/hour. Would I spend a dollar for an extra hour of free time? (I guess I already do!)

    It's gotten to the point where my 3-year-old daughter can pick it up, put it in the middle of the floor, and turn it on by herself.

  30. Re:Interesting... by jfinke · · Score: 2, Informative
    I too have 3 cats. I bought a roomba. It couldn't keep up. I spent more time cleaning the roomba then I would have vacuuming by hand.

    I bought at Dyson Animal the other month. It is pretty amazing. It is actually disgusting how much crap it picks up. I got it for $450 from amazon (they were having a Friday special). It also has a little attachment for pet hair. It works pretty well.

  31. Re:What about dirt amount? by Sparr0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The dirt compartment is about the size of a VHS tape (give or take). Yes, it fills up quickly if you vacuum once a month. This is not a problem because the idea of the Roomba is to run it every day, sometimes twice a day. Go vacuum your living room with a fresh bag, then put another fresh bag in it and vacuum again the next day. See how much dirt/hair is in the second bag. That is all the Roomba needs to handle.