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CWRU Opens Largest Wi-Fi Net

server1 writes "In what could be the largest public wireless service in the world, Case Western Reserve University is opening more than 1,230 Cisco Aironet 1200 Series wireless access points on September 1, providing free Internet access to faculty, students, staff and visitors to the Case campus and University Circle." Good news for Clevelanders looking for some free wireless internet access.

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  1. Yay, Northeast Ohio! by Corvaith · · Score: 4, Informative

    University of Akron's also got very good wireless coverage, and they push laptops rather heavily. It was so terribly convenient. I'm not going there anymore, alas... I miss it. The speed was really blazing, and nothing compares to the ability to actually be online looking up information related to your lectures while they're happening... can make for a much greater understanding of the material.

    Alas, my current school has some kind of fledgling deal going on, but so far I haven't even been able to get it to work, and they aren't very good about providing information on it. :(

    1. Re:Yay, Northeast Ohio! by asdfghjklqwertyuiop · · Score: 3, Interesting


      University of Akron's also got very good wireless coverage, and they push laptops rather heavily. It was so terribly convenient. I'm not going there anymore, alas... I miss it. The speed was really blazing, and nothing compares to the ability to actually be online looking up information related to your lectures while they're happening... can make for a much greater understanding of the material.

      Alas, my current school has some kind of fledgling deal going on, but so far I haven't even been able to get it to work, and they aren't very good about providing information on it. :(


      Just a little heads up to anyone who might be thinking of going there, living in the dorms and doing anything but web browsing on your computer:

      I just graduated from there this month. I agree, the wireless is good. Unfortunately however, they also put that campus-wide firewall in place that would make Hitler seem liberal. I'm in the computer science club there. I hear plenty of complaints from students who are trying to use the campus network for useful things (ie, services) but can't. Even some video games aren't playable.

      Certainly don't try making any special requests to the IT department. To them, the students are like a disease. I lived in the dorms my first three semesters there, before the network nazis put up the campus wide firewall. I very humbly requested a reverse DNS entry pointing to a hostname in a domain I owned. I got a very bitchy response back about how anything in 130.101/16 "represents" uakron.edu and it was incorrect to have PTRs going to any other domains. I then requested any DNS entry at all (because at the time they had no DNS entries for any dorm net addresses). After about a week they put one in place.

      Also, our student senate representative found out that they log all network traffic at border and store it for some time. If the RIAA or federal government ever comes a knockin', your ass and every bit of information they have on you will be in the sling faster than you can blink. You may have heard stores about universities refusing to turn student information over to the RIAA on request. Well, this is no such university, trust me.

      And then they had the nerve to apply this "technology fee" to our tuition, after making the network LESS usable than before.

  2. And in other news... by Blrfl · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Cleveland becomes the world's spam capital.

  3. Free WiFi access will predominate by Alan_Peery · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the way I expect WiFi access to evolve. Fee paying (particularly at more than $1/day) WiFi hotspots will only survive in spots with limited access and one landlord like airports.

  4. So? by pirodude · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't really see how this is news. Purdue has a good 1600 access points on campus and have total coverage in all the buildings and are working on open space coverage now. Any student/staff member can use it free. Here's our coverage map: http://www.itap.purdue.edu/airlink/WirelessCurrent 3.pdf

    1. Re:So? by BlueTooth · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the point is that you don't have to be student / faculty to use this. Hence "largest public".

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  5. Just remember guys... by morgajel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't abuse it. if you want to go kazaa-ing, go somewhere else. remember- when people are nice, and you abuse their trust, they tend not to be nice anymore.

    Try to keep it to a dull roar, or use something encrypted at least. If you make it blatently obvious that you're doing any sort of mp3 swaping, the BSA and RIAA will rain the holy shitstorm of litigation on the school.
    make sure if you use it, you write a letter of praise or something to the dean or head of IT praising their decision to make it open to the public.

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  6. New Ian Hunter song verse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All the little nerds with the crimson Pringles cans
    Singing Cleveland WAPS Cleveland WAPS
    Living in Sin with a bogus MAC
    Singing Cleveland WAPS Cleveland WAPS

  7. "could be"??? by Douglas+Simmons · · Score: 4, Informative

    Last time I've checked, Drexel University in Philadelphia held this wireless title, not to mention the fastest Internet link of any university. When an announcement touts a school like this with "could be" instead of "is" makes me suspicious that they worded it in a way that could either allow what they're claiming to be false, or they didn't bother to fact check to confirm its validity.

    Anyone know more about where Drexel weighs in? Kind of a silly pissing contest, but having the Best or Fastest (blank) for a school is good marketing.

  8. All a 31337 h4x0r needs these days are: by Krapangor · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. a laptop with Linux/FreeBSD
    2. a WiFi card with reconfigurable ID
    3. assorted 31337 h4x0ring programs
    4. a ticket to Cleveland
    Risk: 0%
    Profit: 100%
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  9. Administration nightmare by Psiren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I run a College network, and the thought of any Tom, Dick or Harry being able to wander in and use my network for pretty much anything would be enough to give me nightmares for a month. Can you imagine the potential security issues there, or virus outbreaks? Cold shower time...

    While I see wireless as a potentially flexible system, it is a security and management nightmare. We've banned our students from using their own wireless routers for just this reason.

  10. While this sounds all awesome 'n stuff... by philStyle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least as of now, when they say 'faculty, students, staff, and visitors to the campus', they really mean it. Presently, if you want to actually USE the wireless, you have got to VPN into the system. Until then, your computer will just recognize that there IS an access point, but you sure can't surf the net unless you've got an account with CWRU.
    So maybe this isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Until i hear that anyone with a laptop can actually use the access points without going and talking to the school for access, i'm a little skeptical. It's still sweet tho, 'specially if you live on campus.

  11. Would never happen at Ohio State by Cerlyn · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is interesting to see CWRU do this, as Ohio State likely would never dare try this. At Ohio State, all systems connected to the network must authenticate their users. If a system is unable to do so, the network switches typically force users onto a logon server in order to verify whom they are.

    This is a result of OSU's network policy (PDF file - see item #13). There are a few exceptions, but for the most part this is true.

    OSU's wireless 802.11 service requires users to login, and pay for some sort of dialup plan. Even the $1.95/month one counts.

  12. OK Everyone. Here's how it's really going to work by sinnergy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am not intimiately involved with the project, as I work in the EECS department at Case and not ITS. However, I do know a lot of people that *do* work within ITS and keep myself informed enough to know that most of what's being spouted here is inaccurate at the least and FUD at worst.

    In any case (no pun intended), here's what's going down.

    Case currently has deployed 600 at last count (a few months ago) Cisco WAPs with 802.11b. By the end of the project, almost 1200 WAPs will be deployed campus wide. When Cisco starts shipping the 802.11g radios for the Aironets, all of the radios in all of the APs are going to get upgraded to g.

    OK. That's done.

    Next, currently it is REQUIRED that anyone wanting to use the WAPs must authenticate to a Cisco VPN server and gain access to campus network services as if they were physically on the network. HOWEVER, starting September 1st, ANYONE will be able to use another SSID on any WAP to gain access to the network AS IF they were outside of the CWRU firewall. ANYONE. Script kiddies, goofballs, terrorists... your mother... anyone. Also with that, though, are some SERIOUS controls and, I would assume, monitoring of the traffic. The first big control is bandwidth throttling. No, you wouldn't be able to park (if you could find parking at least) outside of a building and snarf down kazaa bullshit (besides, Kazaa is mostly throttled for everyone anyway. P2P is such a waste of resources, but I digress). So don't think you're going to be able to pull down at 4 to 5 Mbps on the "guest" network. What you WILL be able to do is check mail, browse the web and do activity and most "normal" people would be able to do. If you want to do high bandwidth wireless applications, you'd have to use the VPN.

    So, while this is authoritative I believe I can speak with some certainty that what I have said above is correct and true.

    Also, I want to state that my words here are not necessarily the official views of my employer, Case Western Reserve University and are my own based upon publically published information.