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The End of Physical Media

L-s-L69 writes "The register is reporting that Forrester is predicting that a third of all music sales will be made by downloads in the next five years. They also predict that almost 15 per cent of films will be viewed by "on-demand" services such as rather than by DVD or video by 2005. "

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  1. Video On Demand by notbob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've used the on demand viewing for at home, but haven't been 100% happy with it.

    The whole pause, fast forward, etc... is laggy and inaccurate. I don't like it.

    I don't like only being able to watch it for 24 hours, give me lifetime viewing for 15$ then we're talking.

    As of right now it's just a waste of money as always.

    1. Re:Video On Demand by whatch+durrin · · Score: 4, Interesting
      For many, paying for the on-demand movie is preferrable to making a trip to the video store. Especially when the price is the same.

      I haven't had any problems with the pause/fast forward in on-demand. I only go to the video store now when on-demand isn't showing a particular movie I want to see.

      And if you want lifetime viewing, buy the physical media. Would you actually trust the cable company to "remember" you have lifetime viewing rights anyway?

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    2. Re:Video On Demand by 68K · · Score: 4, Interesting
      For many, paying for the on-demand movie is preferrable to making a trip to the video store. Especially when the price is the same.


      Kinda.

      I've used video-on-demand on my satellite box, but it isn't the same as going to Blockbuster. The satellite transmission is limited to Dolby Pro Logic sound at best (because that can be encoded into a stereo stream), so no Dolby Digital or DTS sound for you. Also, the movies are normally shown in the 4:3 aspect ratio. They have a couple of channels carrying widescreen versions, but the choice is far more limited. Oh, and the TV channels have less bandwidth to play with, so the overall quality suffers.

      That's my experience with Sky in the UK, at least. I'll watch something on pay-per-view for the convenience of it, but if I really like it, I'll get it on DVD for the better quality picture and sound.

      I *like* having CD and DVD racks stuff with discs. Shows me where a lot of my money is. I don't think I'd ever be happy having it all stored as licence keys on my PC.
  2. Is this really a good thing? by Eric+Ass+Raymond · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is this really a good thing?

    I mean in the worst case scenario this will only mean pay-per-view and draconian DRM.

  3. Profit shifts by Empiric · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I believe this will in fact happen, and the ironic thing here is that a lot of the customer's dollar (yen, etc.) will be shifted to the bandwidth providers, rather than the creator of the content. This is really the opposite of the renaissance for artists internet distribution was hoped to provide.

    (Related one-time-no-financial-interest-rant: How many hours of quality reading do you get in a week on Slashdot? Toss your five bucks into the hat already...)

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  4. Overpriced Services by Brahmastra · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Services such as OnDemand on cable are way too over-priced. It's usually $3.95 per movie. I'd much rather buy a used DVD for 10 bucks instead. It's the same reason I never rent anything from Blockbuster (Overpriced American movie rental store). I don't see DVDs dying anytime soon. It may get marginalised like VHS in a few years, but it is unlikely to "end" as mentioned in the title

  5. The End of Physical Media? by villain170 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is this the end of "physical" media? So is this stuff just going to be stored on nothing? It's rather misleading.

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  6. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think they just project the last five years onto the next five years, and if you do that then the findings aren't unreasonable. On the other hand you could point out that PDF has been around for ten years and grown explosively, but hasn't replaced printed media yet.

    I think what these guys keep confusing is that CONSUMING and COLLECTING are two different mindsets, and physical media will always have a market for those of us who like to accumulate.

  7. Hmmm by fleener · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hmmmm, digital downloads and on-demand content with draconian DRM restrictions? The end to CDs and DVDs? Not bloody likely. People want to own what they buy and they want to be able to share it. People will reject content which is "delivered" (always in transit) instead of controlled and owned. Recording VCRs and rental stores were a boon for Big Hollywood, despite Hollywood's whining. Sharing and pirating generate sales, not stifle them. When will Hollywood learn?

  8. Costs, hard copies and piracy. by Channard · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Call me a stickler but I'd much rather have a an actual proper DVD/CD/VHS than a burned DVD or virtual copy. From a financial point of view, providing purely digital online copies of songs/movies will make them much easier to copy and share. Currently - allegedley - if you want to perhaps share a movie you have to rip it, encode it to a managable size and then send it on, a good few hours of work/processor time.

    With a digital copy it'd be just a matter of decrypting the file, sending it along and there you go. If DeCSS was the best the industry could come up with then I don't forsee any online media protection scheme being hard to crack.

    And as for the reduction in costs being passed on to the end user? Doubtful - they'll just be absorbed as profit because if people are happy to pay current prices, why reduce them? CDs were cheaper to produce than tapes yet are more expensive.

  9. Re:Really? by smallpaul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    PDF is less convenient (to read) than physical media. But MP3s are more convenient (to listen to) than physical media. That's why people rip even CDs that they own into their MP3 players

    People who collect MP3s are also collectors. I definately feel more like a collector when I occasionally log onto a P2P system then when I am in a CD store. While I am in the P2P system it is pure hunting and gathering with no concern about cost. When I am in the CD store it is about deciding which of the CDs are worthy my hard earned money (and let's not forget the space they take up in my CD rack).

    On the one hand it is cool to look at my rack and see the stuff I own summarized nicely. But on the other hand, physical media is a pain in the ass. CDs and DVDs are really poorly designed media. Way too fragile. For DVDs: too many silly restraints about skipping FBI warnings and advertisments. For CDs: not enough information density.
    If I could leave that all behind I probably would.

  10. Re:Really? by fishbowl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "PDF has been around for ten years and grown explosively, but hasn't replaced printed media yet."

    It hasn't completely replaced printed media, or replaced it everywhere, but it has replaced printed media to an extent. I routinely receive products with no printed manual, but either a PDF on a CD or else just on a website somewhere.

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  11. Re:On Demand? Pfft. by greymond · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't agree about Jason X, however over here in San Jose, Comcast sucks balls too. Me and the GF tried digital cable for about 6 months and after continuous outages, supposed upgrades, and ordering shows that would cutout during important dialogues or just get all scrambled for a bit during the great sex scenes, we decided to get rid of it. Now we are much more happy with being able to rent/buy a good movie put it in and not have to worry about it skipping (unless the dvd is dirty, but thats rare) - hell we can even pause it and then go back to watching it something digital cables hasn't figured in yet.

  12. Re:Really? by Jack+Auf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Five years ago the MegaCorp I worked for at the time was just beginning a merger with another MegaCorp. At that time we had almost completed our Win3.11->Win NT4 migration. The other company had gone from Netware/Win3.11 to Netware/Win95.

    The PHB's at the other company spent a large amount of time and energy lobbying our CIO to go with Netware for everyone. One of their key points was the fact that Gartner had stated in several research papers about that time that Netware was going to be around for quite sometime and was a viable long term technology strategy for the corporate IT environment.

    Riiiiight.

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  13. Re:Really? by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds more like a hardware problem than a XP problem.

    I'm not sure actually. I can boot Knoppix on it fine, and it runs for as long as I tested it without panicking or anything, which means that if it's a hardware problem, it's probably the hard drive. The hard drive scans fine with CHKDISK, but that doesn't mean it's not occasionally encountering failures. Right now, it usually either bluescreens on boot with a "can't page in" type error, or else it gives "No bootable media found", which certainly hints that it could be the HD. Sometimes it boots fine, but usually crashes pretty quick.

    OTOH, she was hit by blaster, and probably installed several trojans (she sometimes gets popup ads on the desktop), and generally does not run a tight ship, so the system could just be h0sed.

    I suggested that she either take it into the shop, or else back it up (this would be via ethernet to someone else's computer, as she has no CDR), wipe the hard drive, and reinstall.

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  14. Forrester (bah!) by bildstorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm so sick of Forrester research. They've been so pro-Internet for so long that every new wave is a realm of optimism for them. They're predictions are always 'out with the old, in with the new'.

    I highly doubt that DVDs are going away any time soon. CDs may not be released as readily, but they thought CDs would die with the advent of the miniDisc. (Who uses that?) The increase in downloading of music has more to do with the paltry and rather pathetically released albums as of late combined with incredibly high prices that with people switching to broaddband for all delivery.

    If the switch comes to broadband for delivery by the industry, chances are it will have more to do with corporate greed and the desire for increased control (see failure of DVD Regions to mean anything for more info) that it will with people not desiring physical media.

    Today's thought.... Stop piracy and corporate greed. Set fair market prices and compete. Damn oligopolies!
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