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Mozilla Thunderbird 0.2 Released
An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla Thunderbird 0.2 is out! For those who haven't heard about it yet, Mozilla Thunderbird is mozilla.org's new standalone mail client and sister product to Mozilla Firebird. According to MozillaZine's article on the release, new features include 'a redesigned Options dialogue, spell checker improvements, enhancements to the default theme and better performance and stability'. More information can be found at the Mozilla Thunderbird Project Page and in the release notes (which include the important information that a clean install is vital). Builds are available for Windows (7.3Mb), Mac OS (11.1Mb) and Linux (9.5Mb) or you can download the source (29.1Mb) and build it yourself for extra geek points."
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Check out the unofficial processor optimized builds, available in a variety of flavors.
Been running it for a good hour or so now, and I must say it DOES start-up alot quicker then 0.1 and it seems to be alot more stable as well. The update was easy (unzipping a folder yay) and everything seems to be working as well if not better then before. Kudos Moz :)
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But here is what you do not understand. The new products (thunderbird, firebird, ect) are gaining momentum quickly.
I have been using ThunderBird for email for quite a while now, and recommended to everyone. I even got my father to switch. The new suite is absolutly incredable. Quicker then the bloated netscape code, smaller, easier to use. This is what will keep the Mozilla Foundation alive, and im sure they know it too.
Besides when has market share had anything to do with if a OSS project stays alive?
We're running a series of Thunderbird articles, the latest article explains how to migrate from other clients. Send this link to your friends!
The blogologue
Phoenix is now Firebird. The Moz suite is being broken up into Firebird, Thunderbird, and so on.
In the future you won't d/l the Moz suite, you'll d/l the Firebird browser, and the Thunderbird mail client if you, and so on and so forth... all components will be separate.
Just ask the admin nicely to turn on pop3/IMAP support. Of course this doesn't solve the fact that there is no calendering support =(
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Thunderbird and Firebird are just the codenames for the development project. The final products will be integrated into Mozilla 1.6 Suite and called Mozilla Browser and Mozilla Mail.
Thunderbird can import. Messages and Settings. When I switched I moved my stuff over from OE. There are netscape/mozilla options too.
Tools...Import...Mail
Tools...Import...Settings
I second this, in a very big way. Proper exchange connectivity is the only thing that's preventing me from running Linux permanently at work.
Sure, I can use the Ximian connector for Exchange, but I don't want to pay for something that I only use at work (and work will not pay for it, because they don't support Linux desktops). Plus, I don't think it supports full exchange functionality.
IMAP doesn't cut it either. It'll allow me to view email on Exchange, but the contacts and appointments and tasks and mail filter aren't available.
I really ought to try coding it myself. Just never enough hours in the week.
Exchange server offers a nice web based system for e-mail, ok perhaps nice is too strong a word.
Exchange server offers web based e-mail.
Unfortunatly, both Exchange protocal and Mapi are closed protocals that require a license to implement presently from microsoft. This is not to say I wouldn't use a 3rd party generated exchange complient software, only that microsoft has teenage mutent ninga lawyers defending their protocals.
But try pop3 or imap, Exchange server usually includes both those standards as well unless the admin has disabled them some some ungodly reason.
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I just wanted to pipe in. I'm a Windows user (I know, kill me), but like most people on this site, I hate Outlook and Outlook Express. Vehemently. So I've been using Netscape 4.x's aging email client, Communicator. This post is geared for those who are still using it. Since Thunderbird is by the Mozilla folk, it behaves and looks a lot like Communicator. So if you're using Communicator but hate the fact that a) it can't render some HTML email that your stupid drone friends sends you, and b) all links open in Netscape 4.x, which is almost archaic now, I'd suggest you download Thunderbird and give it a try. You'll be able to import you Address Book and old emails/folders. Not your mail filters though, which pissed me off at first. So I re-did several hundred of them. But then I found Thunderbird's great junk-mail filter. It works great. The other neat-o factor is that you can apply filters to flag messages as Personal/Work/Whatever, and it color codes the emails! Very cool. Anywho, if you like Communicator, try Thunderbird. Especially as it gets more stable...
Moving isn't hard (at least it wasn't in Windows 2k), copy the "Mail" folder in your users folder --> C:\Documents and Settings\me\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\0qql5ql7.slt\Mail
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Start Thunderbird and setup your account.
Go to -->C:\Documents and Settings\me\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\default\0qql5ql7.slt\Ma
and paste the mail folder there.
As far as recreating your filters goes, it shouldn't take you to long to recreate them. They are very simple to create.
I hope this makes sense, I'm just coming off a sugar low =(
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YES!!! there are ways to reading HOTMAIL from any pop3 email client (yes, even from linux!!!) take a look at:
http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net
Much better than 0.1 and the last testing build I used [2003-08-20.] It feels even more responsive than Mozilla Mail [2003-09-03.]
FYI, I am not using the official 0.2 build but a special optimised Thunderbird build by Scott Walker [2003-09-03, tho the About dialog says 2003-08-29.]
Now the main things that need work are memory footprint reduction [23 MB right now], access to functionality [like being able to set/reset the master password] and some annoying bugs such as improper rewrap in text edit mode. The latter is present in Mozilla Mail as well, but it's been there too long.
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
With regard to your first question, Thunderbird keeps your mail folders/preferences separate from its installation directory. To install Tb0.2 you just need to delete your existing Thunderbird directory and put the new one in it's place. You can check out the installation instructions here.
With regards to your second question, generally speaking "bouncing" is something that only mail servers can do. What Thunderbird can do is identify spam and filter it to a "Junk" folder (or just delete it right away).
Just type response in a little box below the message and hit enter. Jobs done!.
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...but it seems that two major things are missing, if I am going to be able to keep my mail organized.
1) filtering (to folders) outgoing messages. I want all messages from OR TO certain people to automatically go into my, say, "work" folder.
2) sorting messages by "the other party", whether sender or reciever. In Eudora its just called "who". Within my, say, "work" folder, I might want to find all correspondance with, say, Bob. I don't want to first sort by sender, then the recipient. I want to see them all Bob messages, together.
I moved from Outlook Express to Eudora years ago because it didn't have these essential features....please tell me thunderbird has them somewhere but I'm just not seeing them.
You need an Firebird extension -- Tab Browser Extension -- which sometimes works on its own, and sometimes needs help from the registry (this is a win32 problem only, AFAIK).
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Related mozilla bug is here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17296
Inline autocomplete-- go to chrome://communicator/content/pref/pref.xul in Firebird (copy the location as above). Go to Navigator > Smart Browsing > Location Bar Autocomplete. Sorry, I don't remember the value of the actual pref in prefs.js.
Microsoft is still continuing development of Outlook Express. It was reported in a Slashback.
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The Composer++ project isn't aiming to make a standalone version of Composer. It's a testbed for new Composer features. Things get debugged there, then integrated into the main Mozilla tree.
There is a Mozilla Calendar project at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/.
I don't think it's got the advanced scheduling capability of Outlook (yet?) but you can share calendars by publishing them to a WebDAV server. You can get a free, open source WebDAV server with either mod_dav for Apache, or with the Jakarta Tomcat 4.1.x releases.
Tips and Tricks for Mozilla
Why yes. Yes, there is!
Just put this in your user.js file in the profile folder:
user_pref("mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new", true);
Note that the prefs file can be tricky to find. On XP, it's usually in
C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\default\%random%.slt
Information for other operating systems here
Remember to quit Thunderbird first, otherwise it'll overwrite your changes.
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