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IBM's New Linux Advertising

Amit Shah writes "IBM is airing a commercial featuring Linux as reported on Economic Times. This could be the first major way to reach out to normal users and explain the benefits of open source and Linux. The ad says, "Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom, but sharing data is the first step toward community""

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  1. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

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  2. "Makes life simpler". Right. by Thinkit3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's the future. This is a great move by IBM, just to get the mindset to the masses. Eventually we'll get beyond copyright and patent, but this is a start--even if it's by a huge corporation.

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  3. First Campaign? by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Informative

    What about their 'Peace, love, Linux' hippy campaign they ran a while back.

  4. not their first by wawannem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IBM ran a good commercial a while back where some cops were walking around a vacant server room while a PHB-type was explaining that all the servers had been stolen. Then the IT guy walks in and says, that they were not stolen but replaced with one linux server. The best part was as the commercial closed, one detective looks at the other and says: "What's a server?" - Classic :)

  5. Small print. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Last 12 frames of the ad, bottom left "Linux is (C) SCO and used without permission."

    naw, I made that up.

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  6. Ah, but did you hear the disclaimer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. Linux may contain intellectual property of SCO. Linux users may be liable for intellectual property infractions. Linux is not to be taken internally. If you have side effects after installing Linux, such as dryness of mouth or shortness of breath, discontinue use and consult a physician. Linux is not for all users. Not all Linux companies go up in value; some go down."

  7. From the article by Feynman · · Score: 4, Funny
    Such commercials . . . show how companies must explain the value of complex technology to consumers who may be unaware of the capabilities of their personal computers or mobile phones.

    You mean I can make a phone call . . . from my car?!

  8. I was promised flying cars... by soren42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than the IBM Linux ads that Avery Brooks did... particularly memorable was the ad that went something like "In the early ninties, a Finnish college student named Linus Torvalds develops a new operating system, and then he does something remarkable - he gives it away."

    That and "Where the flying cars? I was promised flying cars!"

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  9. SCO is running a commercial... by aurumaeus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Letting other people collect the data, and then saying it's yours and suing everyone that has it without your permission, is the road to profitability.

  10. Oh, I know, I know! by ArmenTanzarian · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's nine years old, bright-eyed and hungry to learn. Meet Linux, or a human embodiment of the computer operating system, in a new television commercial by IBM.


    Meet SCO, Linux's molester-uncle.

  11. Not so cute. by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's nine years old, bright-eyed and hungry to learn. Meet Linux, or a human embodiment of the computer operating system

    I'm going to say it was a wise choice not to use Linus in the commercial.

  12. When I was a kid by Sphere1952 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Big Blue was the bad guy.

    It feels kind of creepy to be cheering IBM on...

    Go IBM!!!!

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  13. Missing the target by WinDoze · · Score: 5, Funny

    In July, IBM reached a three-year sponsorship deal with the NFL.

    They're going to advertise Linux during televised NFL games? Isn't that sort of like advertising beer during Oprah?

  14. Missed oppurtunity by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Funny
    I still say that IBM should have enlisted the Dell dude and the Mac gal together for an unequalled, ground breaking, paradigm changing media blitz.

    Just picture the two of them together, stoned out of their gourds, with a guy in a big penguin suit behind them.

  15. Why would I need Linux??? by Shant3030 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope these commercials will address one simple question... Why would I need Linux? Most users (non-techies), probably don't need to learn how to use Linux because Windows provides them with everything they need. Maybe they are targeting large companies, in this campaign, and hopefully they will realize the benefits of using Linux in the business world. For regular users(non-techies), I just don't see the point of using Linux.

    Until it becomes easier to use, more compatible with hardware and less nerdy, the majority of computer users will just not use it. Look at MAC's. People are reluctant to use MAC's because in their eyes, its something that they are not used to.

    Its great that IBM is marketing Linux, I'd certainly love to see my family and friends use it, but they are totally shut off to the idea.
    They are comfortable with using Windows because they just dont have the interest in the learning curve Linux presents.

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  16. First Linux commercial? by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps it's just that I don't have cable (3 channels that I'd watch out of 60 doesn't justify $45/month) but this is the first I've heard of real Linux commercials. Things in print are fine, but everyone knows TV advertising is as kingly effective as it's always been in getting stuff to sell.

    Any information on whether there have been mass Linux commercials before this? We may be witnessing the beginning of a new era of Linux advertising. Marketing, marketing, marketing--we make fun of the people that major in it, and even more fun of the people that work in it, but it's certainly one of the biggest factors that helped propel Microsoft to the very top of the software heap. With a someday-equivalent force of marketing behind it, could Linux perhaps finally obtain the financial and spiritual backing it needs?

  17. Sharks by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The esteemed P.J. over at Groklaw had an interesting analogy related to this IBM campaign:

    AntiFUD is an important part of this battle, which is why IBM is launching an advertising campaign about Linux. But legally they're like circling sharks. Not a sound. Just water rippling ever so slightly on the surface, a brief glimpse of a fin, as they slowly circle. Until it's time to lunge.

    I'd like to add to it by saying that SCO is that loud mouthed kid who's splashing around in the water yelling obscenities and other unpleasantries at the sharks, almost daring them to attack.

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  18. Once Upon A Time... by tds67 · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom, but sharing data is the first step toward community," Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr advises the boy in the ad...

    ...who later grew up and, upon reaching manhood, was promptly sued by the RIAA, MPAA and SCO for sharing data with the rest of the community.

  19. Forgot one of the main purposes of Linux by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 4, Funny
    The ad says, "Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom, but sharing data is the first step toward community"

    Are you sure that's not: Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom, but re-theming your desktop a dozen times while your kernel compiles is the death of productivity."

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  20. Want to see the AD ? by ramzak2k · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check this out

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    1. Re:Want to see the AD ? by bigjocker · · Score: 5, Informative

      With wget you will keep getting a refference to the same file.

      mplayer is your friend:

      mplayer http://66.246.105.13:80/adcritic/ibm-linux-prodigy .asf -dumpstream

      check for the file stream.dump

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    2. Re:Want to see the AD ? by Aadain2001 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Damn, that gave me goose bumps :)

      Does that make me weird, sad, or both?

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    3. Re:Want to see the AD ? by protohiro1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      See it in what ever format you prefer...the future is open people.

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    4. Re:Want to see the AD ? by broeman · · Score: 5, Informative

      a better solution is to use this link instead, it comes from IBM's homepage and is in a slightly better quality (mpeg): click to download (cannot use Save Link As...)

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  21. Linux. The Future is Open. IBM. by ihatesco · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom, but sharing data is the first step toward community," Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr advises the boy in the ad, recalling the ethos of the programming community behind Linux.

    The ad closes with the slogan "Linux. The Future is Open. IBM."

    My jaw is wide open.
    Ok, IBM wants to capitalize on Linux, IBM is a company, in the past IBM has been a corrupt monopoly trying to stranglehold their clients with the proprietary ties after fscking them in the first place.

    But the memes passed by this particular advertisement are something radically different than those teached by conventional advertisements and pro-capitalist ethos (consume! consume! don't think about tomorrow! spend now!).

    Really, this stuff is jaw-dropping.
    It's not like the cluetrain stopping in front of IBM (now we only need an express train passing in Darl McBride's office like that Athlon vs Pentium III commercial), but it's like someone saying that the time is mature for an economy based on Free Software to be born and TRY to impose herself on a wide-open scale.
    Not Eazel Gnome Nautilus and crap like that, not the dotcomboom of 121 different Linux distros, but a wide world collaborating on making better, documented, free, opensource and secure systems with minor tweakings among them just to make sure that they suit individual needs. (2414 different Gnu/Linux distros!!! ;D)

    Hell, also Microsoft is committed to a large-scale opensource initiative.

    And I also think that this particular advertisement is what we waited in order to say that GNU and Linux have won.

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    BSD, on the other hand, is dead... :D (ok, that was a joke)

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    1. Re:Linux. The Future is Open. IBM. by ihatesco · · Score: 4, Interesting
      How naive. It's really simple. IBM is trying to rake in a few billion selling software they don't have to pay for.

      Not totally true. If they want to sell it as a service then they have to test it TWICE or THREE TIMES than the usual since they can't trust that a single patch don't go over someone else's IP or don't start overwriting the system in an erratical way, trashing everything on the customers system. Still they have to pay a good deal for Quality Assurance.

      I don't know what's giving you a warm fuzzy feeling. It's not charity. They're not "supporting the community", they're simply saving tens of millions on software development by letting gullible, naive college kids work for free.

      Naive college kids certainly lack the interest to support exotic hardware like IBM's S/390. Also "Naive" college kids usually want MORE to haxx0r the neighbour box or to enter on teacher's pc and change their votes. I know this because I am still a CS student. (No, I am also working in the meanwhile).
      Less naive college kids instead want to collaborate on the linux kernel, the gnu system or whatever other project (bsd, reactos, xfree, their own videogame emulator) because:
      a) it is a system they use and they want it to work well for them,
      b) they want to gain more expertise in security or programming in a certain language, or simply make that grade in the "Operating System Course",
      c) they maybe are doing it as an hobby, since they otherwise would get bored with other hobbies,
      d) maybe they also hope for a "head hunter" to notice their work, OR to be able to use their software for a private, succesful infrastructure on which they can sell support (see VALinux's Sourceforge for an example).

      Helping the opensource community is a balanced act between greed and helping people, between learning and teaching.

      It's the same thing that happens at my local food co-op. The food co-op plasters the word "community" on everything, and people stand in line to "volunteer" there. The co-op is a business, and they're just using the same kind of gullible, naive people to work for free for them. Same fucking thing. Fuck it. Labor is expensive.

      Yes, labor is so expensive that you have to buy retarded software that helps your business to be competitive by cutting jobs, and sending people with 3 or 4 children to the land of the joblessness.
      I bet that at least your local food "co-op" doesn't teach your children that treating people like a mop is rightful a thing to do. Hell, It looks like we got back to the time of the ancient romans, who used to have a philosopher that said that "slaves were talking tools".
      Yes, let's go back to the Roman Empire, where if you didn't worship the empereor you were sent to the arena to be eaten by Lions while we are at it.

      Maybe I'll convert my business to a "co-op", and let the "community" "volunteer" to run my business while I sit in the back raking in the money.

      Why not start a TacoMcStarbucks instead? More or less the it is the same greedy business than a food co-op, Labor is cheap as well, but usually the returns are better than the normal "co-op" with food from the third world. Oh, and you don't also fuck people plastering the place with >, but instead you can honestly do the big bad ugly employer who juggles the careers of very young people. Ask them to work overtime then fuck them giving no extra unpaid holidays.

      + + + +
      To be back ontopic: at least "co-op" give you a _good_ dream and _good_ memes as well. With everyone spreading bullshit like "enterprises and capitalism are better than the happiness and completeness of individual", "co-op"s are a useful point for stating that the individual IS the center of the society, and that if the individual is oppressed, the society loses.

      Also remember that I reminded that IBM was a bad guy as well in the first place...

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  22. Quite so! by Faust7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Makes life simpler". Right.

    This is valid point; in fact, it's actually oozing validity. If Linux is going to be presented in mass advertising as a device for simplification, it had better damn well live up to that description.

    Like as not, many people already consider things plenty simple with Windows, especially XP and Server 2003. If Linux is going to simplify that, there must be some readily demonstrable ways in which it does so. Disillusionment is typically quick to take hold in folks, and once it's settled, it's monolithic to overcome.

    1. Re:Quite so! by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Informative
      Siplifications in favour of linux (some just in the last week or so):
      1. no linux msblaster worms
      2. no linux visual basic for applications cracks
      3. no trains, planes or automobiles stopped by linux viruses, worms or trojans
      4. no linux DRM media players
      5. no linux license fees
      6. no linux authorization codes when you change hardware
      7. no forced upgrade cycle
      8. no having to hunt down 50 cds when trying to rebuild a machine
      If it sounds simpler, it's because it is.
    2. Re:Quite so! by Azghoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm curious to know if you have any sort of proof behind your statement that Linux is at least as "infectable" as Windows. I'm not so sure, I'm wondering why you are.

      I'd also like to scrutinize your "ingeniously called support fee's (sic)" comment. Of course, this only applies to those of us with "legal" copies of all software, but last I checked, the support fees for Linux are completely voluntary, while license fees for any commercial software are not.

      I expect the "forced upgrade cycle" argument is a fallacy on both sides: MS and their ilk push to 'force' upgrades, because they need the revenue. While you're right that Redhat doesn't support verion 6, I'm sure you could find /someone/ who will.

      Finally, most modern distributions require no hunting down of patches. Apt for debian and others, up2date (or even apt) for RedHat.

      You're right: The points can be argued, can't they? :)

    3. Re:Quite so! by clem · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're refering to holes in Apache, not Linus

      I think Linus's holes are of concern only to Linus and his physician.

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    4. Re:Quite so! by arkane1234 · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Red Hat 7.3 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.

      If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Windows 95 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.

      If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Solaris 6 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.

      If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed FreeBSD 2.0 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.

      You can say that about ANY software that has significantly aged and is left unpatched.
      Of course:
      The only thing all this proves is that operating systems have bugs... ALL of them do, including OpenBSD and a major OpenSSH root exploit in the default install last year.

      In most cases it's not the operating system, but the stuff running on top of it. You can't exactly say the same about Blaster, now can ya? This one has been a long time coming. Someone just finally did it.

      People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
      No glass house here, more like reinforced steel. Your average joe schmoe has the ability to get a hardware firewall from your local best buy or fry's electronics. They just don't do it.

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    5. Re:Quite so! by Tony-A · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From my very unpatched NT4 Workstation (which doesn't run the latest Microsoft worms very good;), I'd say that it is the tendency for Microsoft to hide as much as possible and the lookee-lookee, clickee-clickee mentality that's causing the majority of the problems. If anything, it seems like the better grade of wormage has been directed at Linux, but it doesn't seem to accomplish much of anything. I'm not saying that Linux or even OpenBSD is immune, but they seem to fare much better, and the reasons are not as simple as fewer of them, better and faster patching, or even better educated users. The idea of smart users, dumb computer still works. Smart computers, dumb users seems to fare even worse than Wyle E. Coyote.

  23. Sup with the slogan? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom, but sharing data is the first step toward community.

    Nice slogan. Makes me want to put my hand over my heart and stare knowingly toward the horizon.

    What's it got to do with Linux though? Data sharing seems to have more to do with databases and web services, neither of which are explicitly Linux oriented traits. It seems to me it's not data, but functionality that's shared in the Linux community.

    It's something like this: we both need to build a house. I'm going to need a ladder and a saw, you're going to need a ladder and a saw. If you build the ladder, and share it with me, I'll build the saw and share it with you. It doesn't mean we're going to tell each other what's inside the house, what's going on with the house, etc. No data is shared, just the tools for organizing and arranging it. Sharing the TOOLS makes a community. Sharing data makes, I dunno, an RIAA lawsuit?

    I know, I know. The slogan is meant to strike at executives who make snap decisions and watch golf on the weekends. After all, they're the only ones not using OSS already ;). Doesn't foregive IBM from coming up with a slogan that muddys the already murky question of "What is up with the GNU community?"

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  24. Re:"Makes life simpler". Right. by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    " This is a great move by IBM, just to get the mindset to the masses."

    It ain't that great. The ad doesn't even say what Linux is.

    Call me cynical but an 'ad' that doesn't tell you what it's advertising isn't an ad. The people who already know about Linux are the only ones who are going to get anything from it.

    (Note: I'd agree with your point if simply the commercial was better at getting the idea across.)

  25. Re:"Makes life simpler". Right. by generic-man · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone in the IT community has heard of Linux, but most people know it as a community effort. The commercial is targeted at corporate buyers, and seeks to enhance Linux's image by associating the operating system with a well-known, respected company (IBM).

    This isn't the 1950s. Big businesses use commercials nowadays to build brands, not sell products. Consider the most well-known commercials, like Apple's "1984" ad and Coca-Cola's "Mean Joe Green" spot from the '70s. Memorable campaigns don't drill product data into your head.

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  26. Direct links. by sam_doshi · · Score: 5, Informative
  27. Win2000 as stable as Linux? *cough* by tjwhaynes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With perfect honesty, as someone who has used and programmed various OSes and hardware, the differences between Linux and Windows are few. Both are hugely complex from the user's point of view, and both are arguably incomprehensible on the source level. (Remember, you can't just talk about the Linux kernel, but the entire package including XFree86, drivers, the window manager, KDE, etc.) So it's not like either one is a clear winner in terms of ease-of-use or architectural cleanliness. It used to be that Linux was more stable, but with Windows 2000 that's no longer true.

    Well, my system uptimes tell a different story. But you don't have to trust my figures - take a look at Netcraft uptimes. These aren't the highest uptimes of all - almost without exception, the best uptimes are held by BSD derivatives (around 5 years). For the most popular sites, Linux tends to knock in around 100+ days. Windows 2000 knocks around in the high-20's, low 30's.

    Have a nice day.
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  28. Penguin! by MrHanky · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's just a beta! The real text (voiceover) is as follows:

    If Linux were a penguin, it would be growing, fast. Taught by the best. Gaining wisdom between its ears. And sharing. It would be in business, education, government and homes. It would be a nine-year-old penguin chasing the world. So be afraid. Be very afraid.

    The video will be showing the little kid getting slapped around the head by a 2 meter tall penguin.

  29. Re:Don't use mplayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only a fool would be short-sighted enough to not to see the danger of using (supporting) Microsoft protocols, especially over the Internet.

    In the Halloween Document, a Microsoft strategist wrote:

    > OSS projects have been able to gain a foothold in many server applications because of the wide utility of highly commoditized, simple protocols. By extending these protocols and developing new protocols, we can deny OSS projects entry into the market.

    Or consider this evidence in the Java case:

    > Microsoft's Executive Vice President, Paul Maritz, outlined Microsoft's strategy to win the browser war with Netscape and simultaneously "neutralize Java" by "tying" the "user interface" and "APIs" "back to Windows,"

    This quote also shows us how Microsoft operates:

    > at this point its [sic] not good to create MORE noise around our win32 java classes. Instead we should just quietly grow j++ share and assume that people will take advantage of our classes without ever realizing they are building win32-only java apps."

    And then there's this little gem:

    > "Subversion has always been our best tactic," John Ludwig, Microsoft's vice president in charge of Java development, wrote. "It leaves the competition confused, and they don't know what to shoot at anymore."

    Perhaps this quote sums it up the best:

    > "This is really the core of Microsoft's business," Gartner Research Director Chris LeTocq said. "Microsoft is in business to leverage APIs. That's a key element of the successful market share it has."

    If you haven't understood the point, then here it is...

    If you continue to accept the ASF format, then you are encouraging websites to use it.

    But it's still a protocol that is controlled by Microsoft.

    In the future, Microsoft will:

    1. Upgrade ASF to an incompatible format.

    2. Start enforcing their ownership of ASF by restricting its use to Microsoft platforms (as GIFs started to be enforced).

    3. Lock up ASF using Microsoft .Net and DRM protocols.

    And the websites that are using ASF will go along blindly. Why? Because no one has been complaining to them about their use of ASF, so they have no reason to avoid Microsoft's "improvements."

    And at that point, the content of those websites will become unavailable to you unless you are running Windows XP.

    It really annoys me when people fail to protect themselves, and everyone else, because they are too lazy or short-sighted to put up with a little temporary inconvenience. Are you hoping that someone else will do the work of protecting your freedom? Well, don't.

    It's up to you. If you want the Internet to remain free, then stop supporting Microsoft protocols.

  30. Transcript by The+Monster · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Here's the transcript on IBM's site. My favorite bit is the Latin teacher:

    Res publica non dominetur.
    I think that last word is misspelled, (dominatur) but the gist of the translation is something like
    The commonwealth is not owned/dominated
    which sounds like an in your FACE to the Smoking Crack Oraganization and their shadow overlords in Redmond.
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