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Victor G. Sommers writes "Daniel Soong, who lost his programming job to Indian offshore companies, is willing to relocate to India. 'It would be really interesting to work in Bangalore,' he says. 'But I was told, "Daniel, it is against the law for you to work here. You can come here on vacation, but you can't work here."' Indian officials have told him they don't hire Americans." An article in ComputerWorld talks about the possibility of getting more than you bargained for in outsourced code.
Well, duh... As a dutchman it's also not possible for me to relocate to the USA. Unless I prove that there's no way my skills can be found in the States.
What are you talking about? Europeans are everwhere in America, and I don't mean white-bread European-descended Americans (European Americans) either. They are in the universities and in the job market. The U.S. is not the problematic party in terms of open job opportunities. It is the European Union's cradle-to-the-grave mentality for their job market that prohibits better agreements. In truth, there should be free trade and free job opportunities between the U.S., our subsidiary named Canada, and the European Union. While Britain would most likely sign on in a heartbeat (the Scottish National Party would complain though), the other backward viewing countries, ahem "member (nation) states" like Germany and France (especially) wouldn't.
"Right now, somewhere in this world, Scott Baio is plowing a woman he doesn't love," - Peter Griffin, *Family Guy*
the last thing we need in America are for Indians coming in and taking quality jobs also.
Steve's Computer Service, Hobbs, NM
i totally agree, even though my wife is where she is because of H1B. We needed it THEN, we dont need it NOW. Get rid of it! ESPECIALLY L1s. The L stands for LEECH cause all fucking L1s do is glean knowledge and go running back to their country WITH OUR JOBS!
The last thing we need in America is an increase in whining from the unmotivated. Follow the laws of supply and demand and the cream will rise to the top.
No, the laws are not the same. Here, in US, we have 35 year old "college students" with student visas who "supplement" their income by working 9 to 5. (they attend classes at night)
And don't get me started with H-1B and L-1 loopholes. L-1 is far worse because companies don't even have to pay $1,000 to train American workers when companies "transfer" their workers from India, China, etc.
http://www.h1b.info/
I had two teachers in the last 6 months at my college who had the credentials and were supposed to be "experts in their field" Well, these two fucks didn't know anything and just read from the book to us. They had NO teaching skills and had horrible accents. An English teacher could have done better teaching these tech classes.
I did well in class but not because of the lectures.
As far as the guy who blew his brains out is concerned...he should have done us a favor and taken his replacement and managment who approved it with him. His replacement is probably still working, laughing his ass off because some poor schmuck didn't have the balls to stand up for his rights.
The US is one of the most nepotic countries. Just look at the President. Americans hire on merit. You're funny!
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
I am posting this from the Indian state of Bihar and would like to bring a few facts to your notice. Big IT is limited to a few cities like Banglore, Hyderabad,Delhi,Pune,Bombay etc.Very miniscule portion of the Indian population of 1 billion is involved in IT. Perspective Indian IT exports 10 billion USD Microsoft sales 50 Billion USD 99% of IT wok done in India is outsourced work from US,Europe,Japan etc.No original product development or ground breaking software science here. There is no major contribution from India to any Open Source Software project.On the hardware front India does not have a decent semiconductor manufacturing facility. The great "Call Center" story is turning sour.There is 40% rate of attrition.According to a recent article people working at these centers develop physical/physiogical problems.Nothing is great about being Sam with a "American accent" at night and being Swaminathan during the day.Identity Crises Education is pathetic.Original thinking is not promoted. Learn by text books and vomit in exams. Regarding the IITs in a population of 1 billion you can statistically always find 10k people who are exceptionally brilliant.The untainted/rigirous selection process ensures that these people get selected into the IITs.India has not produced a single Noble prize winner since Independence.Those Indians who have won the Noble prize are settled and working out of India.If the Noble is an benchmark for original thinking you can see where India stands . No development in basic sciences as all bright students go to IT. Corruption in India extremely high and prevelant in all walks of life. Bush and his colleagues would look like saints when compared to Indian politicians. Pollution is high in cities and you can see squalor in most areas.BTW Bombay has the largest slums in asia. Because of its lowest "code monkey" cost India is today on everyone's radar screen.When some other country takes that title India will be forgotten just like a couple of years before. All in all not a great place to be in.....
I am posting this from the Indian state of Bihar and
.
would like to bring a few facts to your notice.
Big IT is limited to a few cities like Banglore,
Hyderabad,Delhi,Pune,Bombay etc.Very miniscule portion
of the Indian population of 1 billion is involved in IT.
Perspective Indian IT exports 10 billion USD Microsoft sales 50 Billion USD
99% of IT wok done in India is outsourced work from
US,Europe,Japan etc.No original product development
or ground breaking software science here.
There is no major contribution from India to any
Open Source Software project.On the hardware front
India does not have a decent semiconductor manufacturing
facility.
The great "Call Center" story is turning sour.There is
40% rate of attrition.According to a recent article people
working at these centers develop physical/physiogical
problems.Nothing is great about being Sam with a "American accent"
at night and being Swaminathan during the day.Identity Crises
Education is pathetic.Original thinking is not promoted.
Learn by text books and vomit in exams.
Regarding the IITs in a population of 1 billion you can
statistically always find 10k people who are exceptionally
brilliant.The untainted/rigirous selection process ensures
that these people get selected into the IITs.India has not produced a
single Noble prize winner since Independence.Those Indians who have
won the Noble prize are settled and working out of India.If the Noble
is an benchmark for original thinking you can see where India stands
No development in basic sciences as all bright students go to IT.
Corruption in India extremely high and prevelant in all walks of life.
Bush and his colleagues would look like saints when compared to Indian politicians.
Pollution is high in cities and you can see squalor in most areas.BTW Bombay has the largest
slums in asia.
Because of its lowest "code monkey" cost India is today on everyone's
radar screen.When some other country takes that title India will
be forgotten just like a couple of years before.
All in all not a great place to be in.....