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Victor G. Sommers writes "Daniel Soong, who lost his programming job to Indian offshore companies, is willing to relocate to India. 'It would be really interesting to work in Bangalore,' he says. 'But I was told, "Daniel, it is against the law for you to work here. You can come here on vacation, but you can't work here."' Indian officials have told him they don't hire Americans." An article in ComputerWorld talks about the possibility of getting more than you bargained for in outsourced code.
OK.
The weavers who were put out of jobs by the development of the Spinning Jenny weren't too happy either.
The typists in the typing pool who were put out of work when their boss got a word processor were hardly chuffed.
The textile workers who found that Americans were more than happy to buy stuff from India or China probably didn't feel great.
Work will always move to the place where it can be done most cheaply. That is called free market "global" capitalism. That is what got you the Lexus or the Toyota in your garage. That is why the memory in your PC is probably made by Winbond or Samsung. That is why your Hi-Fi is probably made by Sony or MEI.
I want code written, I can ask anyone in the world to write it. Really. That is my right.
How dare anyone say I cannot ask an Indian in Bangalore to write it? How dare you say I must pay for an American?
If you want to live in a country where foreign goods and services are banned try Bhutan.
You violate my rights (while almost certainly demonstrating a revealed preference for Japanese consumer electronics) when you deny me the ability to hire who I want in whatever country I want to do my work.
Sorry this is turning into a rant. But...
Would you ban books by Indian authors because they put American authors out of work?
--- My dad's political betting
Anyone can browse these posts and discover for themselves what seems to be a frequent trend on Slashdot; most people go ahead and comment without reading the freaking articles that the posts refer to. They read the headline, they read the (frequently misinformed or mis-stated) summary of the submission and then they fire off myriad comments.
These postings are riddled with "Why is this even on here?" and "Is this even a story?" These people didn't read the article. Or, they're idiots. Possibly both.
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Not to mention that it's too expensive and full of Californians. Why the hell would anyone want to move there. When a shitty house costs $300k but the wages don't match the increased cost of living it just doesn't make sense. I worked for a company in Milpitas (but I got to live in Oregon). The programmers I interacted with were the biggest bunch of no-nothing losers I've ever met. It seemed like CA companies would hire any retard off the street to punch keys and ask stupid questions.
(Who cares about that wetback gringo...)
There's hidden backdoors put into non-outsourced code. Is it really so much more prevalent a case with outsource code that outsourcing should be avoided?
Can the perp really get away with it with a source revision control system in place, and the proper contract (And a properly designed network/system infrastructure)?
There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, General Electric, and Exxon
And actually you can move right on in to California now, since the retarded state gov is basically trying abolish all immigration law. Come on over!
What is happening in CA is the definition of critical mass.
California is now being overrun by Mexicans, who want to live well but instead turn it into "new new" Mexico. Then when the property values plummet, there is no money and infrastructure to allow such a lifestyle, they will be moving to the Midwest in droves to unintentionally destroy its infrastructure and educational system, and taking all of the jobs away for crap wages and sucking up government services at a rate that we cannot even possibly pay for.
The Mexicans have proved that NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN MEXICO. And I'll be damned if they aren't turning California into Mexico right now. Who's next?
This is what happens when you let a group in that doesn't want to integrate into the society, but instead have a goal that has nothing to do with the other half. When the population gets high enough, the society takes an off ramp. Just like California is right now.
"La Raza!"
You'd be well informed to learn what that means. It is an exclusionary statement. I saw it everywhere in California.
So all of you that may get mad at what I said, I ain't no gringo. I may be white, but I speak Spanish almost fluently. SO IF YOU THINK THAT I AM SOME REACTIONARY REDNECK, think again.
I just see it for what it is.
I doubt that you grand-father was same useful for then American land when he originally migrated from Europe.
I understand your frustration though: you have lost your job to better ones. Sad. Have you ever tried to improve your skills? Specifically after you've lost your job to H1B?
Less is more !
Have you ever been here? You don't know what you're talking about. It's amazing how often non-Americans think they know everything about us because they watch some of our TV or movies. I hate to break it to you folks, but that stuff bears no resemblance to reality. You are displaying the same kind of gullibility and ignorance that is so often attributed to Americans.
Most of us don't cry about 9/11. But it does give a lot of us a warm fuzzy feeling when we take revenge on an Arab country. It's a nice deterrent. If everytime we get nailed by some cowardly terrorist hiding in shadows and sneaking around, we take possesion of one additional Arab country, it might make them think twice. After all, they could never beat us in any kind of traditional battle.
The fact is that Americans are no different from people in many other parts of the world, certainly including most of Europe and Asia. People are basically people. What usually causes our wars is idiots like you and people from many other countries who think that some imaginary line on a map makes human beings fundamentally different.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.