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Can Lotus Notes R3 Prior Art Save The Browser?

theodp writes "Apparently stunned by the implications of Eolas vs Microsoft, Ray Ozzie of Lotus Notes and Groove fame offers up Notes R3 as prior art for the notorious Eolas patent. To bolster his argument, Ozzie used the Notes R3 feature set to recreate a scenario close to what was described in the patent. After the hard part of putting together a Notes R3 computing environment that included MS-DOS 6.22, Windows for Workgroups 3.11, and a circa-1993 copy of Excel 5.0 obtained from eBay, it only took Ozzie about 15 minutes to knock out a demo without any programming using the out-of-the-box UI of Notes and Excel."

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  1. did i... by gummijoh · · Score: -1, Troll

    did i hear someone say first post?

  2. Microsoft... by some1somewhere · · Score: -1, Troll

    Hum... how much did Microsoft pay to have this "discovered"?

    No... not saying that Microsoft did this for sure, but did Microsoft offer a "bounty" for coming up with this? They should you know... this guy just saved Microsoft many many millions of dollars...

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  3. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You fail it. Now kindly fuck off and die. Thank you.

  4. Frivolous McDonald's lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The Eolas vs everyone lawsuit is 100% frivolous. It is almost as bad, but less humorous, as the "I spilled hot coffee on my lap. Time to go sue McDonald's!" frivolous lawsuit of a few years ago.

  5. ASSWIPES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    How can a first post be redundant???

    You're all fucking idiots.

  6. Re:PC world, uhhh, thanks, no & u r missing po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Ah, but if said newbie reads the September 2003 issue of PC World, they'll see that they can get a small utility that does the registry-fucking for them. And undoes it at a click.

    Fix your PC, and avoid reformatting your hard drive, with this utility.

    License: Trial, Trial, Buy Only, Shareware, Shareware, Shareware, Shareware

    Uhhh, thanks, no. I no longer have to worry about reformatting my hard drive, or trial software, buy only software, or stealing shareware because I've moved on to gnu/linux.

    Aren't you tired of that pcworld bullshit? It's as bad as flash. That regular utility rundown is one long advertisement for them to shake loose some pocket change, and show off to their editors how creative they can be with their titles.

    Which windows version, btw, are you using that runs Konqueror?

    You're missing the point. I've disabled flash because I took the time to figure out which file to edit in my LINUX installation. But others won't take the time to edit the file, they'll pretty much accept the flash download, or more likely, use flash straight out of the konqueror installation, as linux programmers are paranoid about making sure linux apps have everything windows has, which is stupid.

    While a slashdot reader may take the time to download a registry editing (ugh! I need to go clean my hands after typing that!) utility, the vast majority, over 90% of users from what I've seen on stats of technical knowledge of average users, won't know about the utility, or know what it does, or know how to download it, or know how to use it. And that defeats the whole aim of avoiding flash in the first place, and thereby minimizing the spread of that nasty little virus.

    Which brings up the perfect characterization of flash. Think about how msblast and other worms have been spreading. Now thing about flash. It has all the properties of a slower speed worm or virus. We just need an effective extermination procedure for it.

    btw, come on over to the dark side. Or take a walk on the wild side. Whatever. If you like those little utilities on windows, give linux a shot. Linux has thousands of those little utilities, and none of them that I'm aware of are "trial" or "shareware". Download Knoppix, burn it to one CD, then set your bios to boot from CD. That's it. Try it out. Won't modify your hard drive. Won't write to your hard drive unless you decide to save settings, create a home directory, or create a swap file (and knoppix can temporarily use existing space on your hard drive for a swap file, which disappears when you shutdown). And if you do decide to create a knoppix home directory or swap file, or save settings, you can always delete the file(s) from windows when you are done.

    There's also a free game version of the cd, among other versions, and there are linux game cds by other distros, do the google.

    Download the main knoppix distro, check the md5sum (there is a utility for this in windows, just a command line in linux ;0) then stick in cd drive, and reboot. When the screen comes up, you can type "knoppix mylang=us" without quotes, hit enter. Or hit F2 for help if you need a different language, or if all your hardware wasn't detected (unlikely). When you are done exploring, exit by going to the "K" superimposed on what looks like a gear with a gold center, in the lower right hand corner of the screen, make believe it is the "start" button for windows, click on it, then select "logout knoppix" which should be the bottom menu item. Confirm, and that should be it. The system will shut down, automatically ejecting the cd tray, then telling you to hit enter so it can close the tray before powering off.

    That's it. You

  7. Where is the "Evil M$" Crowd?? by ksemlerK · · Score: 0, Troll

    "To bolster his argument, Ozzie used the Notes R3 feature set to recreate a scenario close to what was described in the patent. After the hard part of putting together a Notes R3 computing environment that included MS-DOS 6.22, Windows for Workgroups 3.11, and a circa-1993 copy of Excel 5.0 obtained from eBay, it only took Ozzie about 15 minutes to knock out a demo without any programming using the out-of-the-box UI of Notes and Excel."

    --/BEGIN OSS FREAK MODE/--

    Oh no!! he used a M$ setup of Windoze 3.11 FW, M$-DO$ 6.22, and M$ Excel 5.0! He must be a pawn of the "Evil Empire M$". Why can't he use Linux on his 486? Everyone knows that Mandrake 9.1 works better than any M$ Windoze product on a 486 with 16 MB RAM and a 500 MB HDD. WAHHH!! It's not OSS!!! He can't free himself from the M$ grip of tyranny. Come on, It's a brave GNU world. Joseph Stallan, Er, Richard Stallman wont be pleased with this! He is going to the Siberian Goulag for sure. DIE CAPATALISTS!! LONG LIVE CARL MARX, AND JOSEPH STALLAN. HEIL HITLER!!

    --/END OSS FREAK MODE/--
    OK, now that the piss ant whining is over, no body else needs to follow suit. This is a good discovery. Grow up MS is not out to kill you, steal your house, and rape your wife/daughter/mother/girlfriend. All the Whiners are just too cheap to buy a legit product, or do not know where/how to get a pirated copy. (Note: I did not say all OSS users. Just those who try and impose their preference on others.)

    An OS is an OS. They are all good for different things. It is an operating system, not a religion. You do not need converts to Linux, or to Windows.

    I have an old P1 running Windows NT 3.51, and that's good enough for that machine. My new machine runs Windows XP Professional. Did you hear that? I am using Windows XP Professional Build 2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 to type this, and mysteriously, this text appears exactly as it would have if I typed it on Windows 3.11, or Mandrake 9.1. Wow, pretty strange! Must be an act of God himself to allow this to happen. NOT!!

    Understand this: What I decide to use on my computers at home will not directly interfere with any other person as long as it is 100% patched, fire walled, and has a up to date virus scanner. As long as a system is locked down, it does not matter what OS you are running. A Windows box is just as secure as a Linux box under if the proper measures are taken. Also, a Linux box can be just as insecure as Windows ME if the administrator is incompetent.

    Also, if conversion of the masses to Linux is so important to you, why don't you quit talking bullshit about how MS is only easier because more people understand it, the masses are trained on it and not *nix, MS stole the technology, Et cetera? IF it is such a big deal, be proactive and change the situation by providing a service or solution that is not yet implemented by MS, and offer it in your distribution. And if you expect to have the masses desire your product, you have to provide it to a better quality than the competition would or does. People are resistant to change.

    For change to occur, you have to be able to provide something that is in high demand, and at a good and reasonable price also. Also, just because your distribution is better than the rest as far as features and ease of use are concerned, does not mean that you will succeed. To succeed, you must have a form of advertisement, and a mission statement that can be met. It does not matter if I create the best OS and office suite on the market if only I have it, and maybe only 1000 other people. Without advertisement, and consumer product awareness, how do you expect it to succeed? It will not. An old saying, "It takes money to make money." still holds true in this case.

    Granted choice is a good thing, but when there are choices of literally hundreds of distributions offering pretty close to the same experience, (Such as SuSE vs. Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. Lycoris), why would anyone want to compare the subtle differenc

  8. In Soviet Russia... by mod_parent_down · · Score: -1, Troll
    Microsoft abuses software patents!

    Or... wait.

    This is hard.