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Finally: Broadband for the Commodore 64

GP writes "Now even die-hard Commodore 64 users are able to enjoy the benefits of broadband Internet connectivity. A newly announced Ethernet card together with the Contiki operating system lets you surf the web, send e-mail, host web sites with the built-in web server, and soon even play LAN games on your good old Commodore 64! All this with a computer that is old enough to drink."

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  1. Wahoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can play Tank! With my friends in Iraq!

    1. Re:Wahoo! by falzer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, now Junis in Afghanistan can get high-speed Internet access!

  2. New kind of bottle neck by Brahmastra · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll be the first ever time the CPU bus is a bottleneck to the Internet connection

    1. Re:New kind of bottle neck by DavyByrne · · Score: 5, Funny

      It'll be the first ever time the CPU bus is a bottleneck to the Internet connection

      But if the good ol' C64 is old enough to drink, can't it can buy those wide-mouth cans and avoid bottle necks entirely?

    2. Re:New kind of bottle neck by Sancho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Simply not true. "Broadband" can have much, much higher latency than dialup. Just look at satellite connections. It's simple physics that the signal has to go from earth to orbit and back, which takes time.

  3. Well thank God! by evil-osm · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was beginning to fear that I would have to upgrade at some point!

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  4. Post please by Libor+Vanek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Okay, start posting "C= 64 was the 'my first'/'last real'/'first real'/'best' computer/piece of crap" messages.

  5. Re:Uhmm.. by Nos. · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, in some countries there is a minimum age to purchase alcohol. In the US, its 21. According to: http://oldcomputers.net/c64.html the commodore was released Jan, 1982. Making it 21 years old, or, old enough to drink.

  6. watch out by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get ready for lots of 40-column width formatted Slashdot postings! :)

  7. Neat by pavon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, and the way that the contiki webbrowser is designed you can even view site like slashdot who's html is larger than the amount of RAM in the machine itself!

  8. Commodore firewall by lsd4all · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What a great idea to limit bandwidth usage. Hookup up a C64 as a firewall and *presto* you are blocking ports and keeping the P2P usage down to 2K/sec. Burn the firewall code to a start-up cartridge ROM, make the C64 run off a 12V battery with a DC-DC converter for the needed +/-5V. Throw the whole thing in a black box with a solar panel on top and sell it as the next big thing in network security.

  9. secret options by Sarin · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not in manual but let me reveal:
    you can connect an original arcade(r) stick to the internet adaptor. By wiggling it left-right really fast you can help the adaptor process packets, thus upgrading its speed.

  10. Irresponsible by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's irresponsible to put these machines on the Net! They're running kernels that haven't been patched in 2 decades. The user always runs as root. Hell, the CPU doesn't even have a privileged mode! How many minutes do you think it will be before a C64 with broadband is cracked?

    It's bad enough that people who try putting their C64 on the Internet will probably lose all of their valuable data. What really worries me, though, is a plague of dozens of zombie C64 machines under the control of hackers bringing down valuable services like Google and Yahoo with DDoS attacks.

  11. Liquid refreshment by morcheeba · · Score: 5, Funny

    It means that, in order to run at a decent speed, you have to overclock the C64's 6502 so much that it requires a water cooling setup.

  12. Related projects by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the spirit of an ethernet card for the C64 I'm working on the following:

    1. Climbing with gear from the 1800's
    2. Souping up a Model T
    3. Creating a fully automatic muzzle loader
    4. Compression scemes for 5.25" floppies
    5. Teaching a VERY old dog new tricks

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    It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
  13. Re:But can it fill 10BaseT? by ewhac · · Score: 5, Informative

    So...can it [flood a 10BaseT network]?

    No. It can't.

    If not, how much traffic do I have to send it to bring it to a crawl? :-)

    Not much, I would think.

    The C64 has a 1MHz 6510 8-bit CPU. The memory bus is also 1MHz. Moreover, the fastest instruction on the 6510 (which is a 6502 derivative) is two clocks. Thus, at four clocks per byte (two to read, two to write), the fastest data transfer rate you could conceivably get is 0.25 MBytes/second (in reality, it would be rather slower as the LDA and STA instructions take more than two clocks, but I don't have the timing chart in front of me).

    The C64 does have DMA, but it's dedicated to video access and refresh and can't be redirected. Moreover, these DMA cycles completely take over the bus for 40 clocks every eight video lines. So your packet writes will likely hiccup from time to time. (Presumably they have big silos on the NIC.)

    Even if the NIC did DMA itself, it would have to get out of video's way every eight lines, which means you couldn't flood the line indefinitely. Also, the C-64 has a mere -- surprise! -- 64K of RAM. At 1MByte/sec, you'd run out of RAM in 0.065536 seconds.

    Schwab
    C-64 Early Adopter