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Analysis Of Symantec's Stance On Censorship

robochan writes "According to this report in the Sydney Morning Herald, Chief Operating Officer of Symantec, John Schwarz, was quoted as 'calling for laws to make it a criminal offense to share information and tools online which could be used by malicious hackers and virus writers.' This article takes a look at the negative affects and also a couple of recent examples of "censorship legislation" backed by the COO of Symantec, and what little effect it has had on criminals, while having a substantial affect on responsible citizens."

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  1. In other words by Leffe · · Score: 5, Funny

    GCC has been made illegal.

  2. Re:Well I for one.. by OverlordQ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well I, for one, welcome our new Websters Dictionary Overlords

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  3. Smokin' Crack by sssmashy · · Score: 2, Funny

    In conclusion, whether or not Symantec's COO is just smokin' crack or understands what is at risk, any attempt to censor these critical security tools, including exploit code, from the Internet will result in a constitutional travesty followed by a significant market downturn, a degraded security community, and the commercialization of vulnerabilities where the market is driven by the criminals we are trying to "stop".

    1. Re:Smokin' Crack by sssmashy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just wanted to say that this is the longest run-on sentence I've ever read that includes the words "smokin' crack".

  4. So Symtantec's anti-virus software will be illegal by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 5, Funny
    After all, I assume every virus writer tests his/her virus by running it through anti-virus software. If we would just get rid of that virus-helping software, we'd be safer from viruses.

    Those damn virus-helpers over at Symantec, I hope the law skins them alive.

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  5. anti-virus software, tool of the pirate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you stick to shrinkwrapped software, and DON'T run ANY other form of executable, then you DON'T need anti-virus software.

    So what is this "Norton AntiVirus" for? To help people who download cracked software keep their computers healthy? Sounds like a shady product to me.

    1. Re:anti-virus software, tool of the pirate by soliaus · · Score: 2, Funny
      If you stick to shrinkwrapped software, and DON'T run ANY other form of executable, then you DON'T need anti-virus software.

      You sir, are wrong. There is a product on the market that comes shrink wrapped, and is by far one of the worst viruses ever made. They seem to have a legitimate business operation, but innocent users fall victim to their faulty coding every single day.

      More information is available here.

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  6. Don't look at me by Rhinobird · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't look at me I voted for Kodos!

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  7. Slim Jims? by toupsie · · Score: 2, Funny

    My corner convenience store has buckets of Slim Jims! Now I have to get a license to eat one? Also, how do I burglar with one?

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  8. Re:Burglary Tools by Sonnenschein · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Even exploit code has a legit purpose. Am I going to take offline/patch every sshd in my organization because of a crappy rumor that there's a remote DOS overflow? Hells, no! "

    Mind if I ask where you're working, name/address or ip will suffice. TY.

  9. Heh, I'll see your PATRIOT Act and raise you... by yoshi_mon · · Score: 2, Funny

    The DMCA.

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  10. Re:It's obviously anti-First Amendment by cujo_1111 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't forget punch card readers for all the old-school people around here!

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  11. Re:It's obviously anti-First Amendment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to see someone make a punchcard virus that can mutate and spread.

    no really i would

  12. Obligatory Microsoft Bashing by fydfyd · · Score: 3, Funny

    So if virus abetting tools are outlawed then I imagine that the Sale, Possesion, or Manufacture of Office would be punishable by no less than 10 years' imprisonment or fine no less than $100,000.

  13. Criminalizing tools? by rikkards · · Score: 2, Funny

    make it a criminal offense to share information and tools online

    I guess that makes MS Visual Studio and MSDN illegal?

  14. So where is Open Source AV? by SlashDread · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would seem to think it is usefull, and would be a nice replacement for buggy, proprietary, craptools, like McAfee. And Yeah, it should run on windows. /Dread

  15. Re:but hunting *is* murder by drakaan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two questions:

    1. Is celery alive?
    2. What flavor kool-aid goes best with most microbes?

    (I'm guessing grape goes best, but that's just a guess)

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  16. Re:It's obviously anti-First Amendment by ATMAvatar · · Score: 3, Funny

    tools that could help virus writers? like, what? c++? visual basic? or, more realistically, nessus?

    Outlook Express

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