Mac OS X 10.2.8 Available

Transfan76 writes "The 10.2.8 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: Audio, Bluetooth, Classic compatibility, Finder, Graphics, LDAP, Power Management, Safari, and FireWire and USB device compatibility. The update also provides updated security services and includes the latest Security Updates." Does this have the update to ssh?

Comments

YAY Update :)

[Puggs]

OK, so how many of you Apple owners saw this, and reached instantly for the Software Update with glee?

And how many thought the same when the latest Windows Bloat Patch ^W^WUpdate came along? not many? thought as much :)

oh the joys of being a proud owner or a 12" PB.....

hmm maybe I need to update my .sig - ... And Mac OS X just gets out of the way, letting you do what you wanted to do...

Re:YAY Update :)

[Otter]

OK, so how many of you Apple owners saw this, and reached instantly for the Software Update with glee?

I dunno -- some of us who remember the iTunes updater fiasco like to wait a day or two before applying patches and updates. If there's a disaster out there, let it be someone else who stumbles across it. Same for Linux kernels, new versions in emerge (do I really need a new point release of awk this minute) and anything else.

I mean, I get your point but Mac users do get burned too, and I'd rather it's you than me.

Security

[Anonymous Coward]

How come Apple hasn't announced the problems with OpenSSH and Sendmail? It seems that they're just quietly fixing the problem.

This isn't what I'd expect from a company trying to push into the enterprise. Plus, if they did actually make the changes, it took quite a while.

Re:Where is 10.1.6??

[HSpirit]

That misses the point entirely.

1. When was OSX 10.1 released? After Windows 2000, right? What kind of outcry would there be if Micro$oft announced:

   "There's a critical security update available for Windows XP. The issue affects Windows 2000 too, but we don't support that any more."

   There'd be people wanting to charge Micro$oft with Treason...!
2. If I update the vendor included version with SSH with a version compiled from source, or even a binary not obtained from the vendor, in terms of support I am screwed, no?

I recommended purchase of a Mac in our office recently, due to the fact it could handle both the graphic design and web/mail serving requirements. My boss knows about Jaguar, but his opinion is that he shouldn't have to upgrade only a year after purchasing the Mac - he has a point, surely?

Re:uptime

[gerardrj]

I thought the whole idea of the Mach microkernel was that the main BSD kernel could be modified on-the-fly. You could concievably save the kernel state, stop it, load a new one and restore the state, all without a restart.

You CAN do kernel changes to some degree and not restart the machine, look at SUN and Soalris.

Re:tell apple you're not satisfied with patch time

[BostonPilot]

I think a week is reasonable if they used the time to do lots of testing. I hate patches that don't work correctly. Ref: what everybody seems to complain about Microsoft patches... they're afraid of them making things worse and breaking stuff.

A reasonable amount of QA testing goes a long way towards good reliability in my book.

Re:Where is 10.1.6??

[trash eighty]

well in the past an update for 10.1 has come out a few days after one for 10.2 (though not always) so lets just wait and see before passing judgement huh?

Double Checking.

[jellomizer]

One Week isn't that bad of an update time. I am sure that after they make the change they will check it out to make sure it works on all the platform that OS X runs on. As well configure it to work with OS X settings, Put the files in a way so it can be sent for an update. OpenSSH people have developed their product for BSD and Linux so checking the update takes less time. of OS X Apple probably needs to tweak it a little. And check to make sure it works. Plus I think it was an issue that they had an upgrade planned anyways so just wait a couple of days and allow for one reboot except for 2.

Re:Yes.

[fermion]

Well, I assumed the anti-mac frat boys would take mention this, but evidently the years of cheap beer and Dawson Creek has dulled their minds...

I really must say that Apple putting a security patch and a feature update together in the same download is really horrible. We have been justifiable criticizing MS for doing the same things, and they finally got the message.

With the Software Update interface in OS X such combinations are unnecessary. All updates are automatically checked, so there is no extra work for the average user if patches get delivered in 1 or 4 packages. For those who want only the security updates, a few clicks will remove the unneeded packages.

This really bothers me because one thing that Apple does, and the reason I spend my money on Apples, and have for more years than I care to admit, is that they do try not to make the silly mistakes. Like forcing someone to download an Audio update onto a production box that never does audio.

Seperate updates?

[beattie]

Why does everything have to be installed as a system upgrade? There should be seperate updates for SSH, Sendmail, System, ... and then you can choose what to install. This makes it easier for people with 10.1 also. As they can just install the SSH and/or Sendmail without needing 10.2 for the System update. Seems pretty basic to me.