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Slashback: VeriSign, Balance, Manifestation

Tonight's Slashback brings updates and clarifications to several previous Slashdot stories, so read on below for information on the (over-stated) recall of Segway scooters, the fate of RAV AntiVirus's Linux development team, VeriSign's Site Finder, the (latest) Lindows v. Microsoft scuffle, and more.

Linux antivirus developers join Kaspersky Labs prostoalex writes "The Linux development team of Romania-based RAV AntiVirus, acquired this June by US-based Microsoft, joined Russia-based Kaspersky Labs. This transition took place after Microsoft confirmed there will be no Linux or Novell version of antivirus software. Kaspersky Labs now works on RAV Migration program for Unix/Linux users, since the company officials deem this market as one of the fastest-growing."

VeriSign must love attention. talon77 writes "Netsys is reporting that a class action lawsuit has been filed against Verisign due to their Sitefinder. It's about time."

And Anonymous Brave Guy writes "VeriSign are in legal trouble yet again, this time for handing over a domain name to a former employee of the former holder. Also some interesting tidbits in here about the impact of the sex.com case, the fact that since July domain names are regarded as property under U.S. law, and the idea that VeriSign might themselves be held accountable for punitive damages awarded against someone who takes over a domain name improperly."

Piling on, Anonymous submits: "Verisign seems to have issues with returning proper response packets for DNS queries on unused domains, so we thought we would give them a quick reminder in case they forgot what the right answer was. You can find pictures here. (This was on their building in Mountain View, and the signs said 'Verisign/Netsol, as if people didn't hate you enough already... How greedy/stupid are you? [Made with figlet/vim/a2ps/poster.c]')"

Update: 10/02 00:37 GMT by T : And (ooops!) this part got chopped off: "Note that the Verisign web search is powered by Inktomi for search and overture for ads, both of which are now owned by Yahoo. You can always vote with your dollars and your clicks."

Ohio uncappers peer at the ToS. Mike writes "Looks like Broadband Reports has posted a follow up to what happened to those Ohio Cable broadband users who had FBI agents confiscate their hardware for uncapping their modems (See original BBR story here, Slashdot story here). Looks like most of the offenders settled for fines and community service, but one took the case all the way, and eventually got it overturned because the cable company's AUP failed to clearly mention their legal stance on uncapping."

Thorn-in-side lessons, part IIXIIXV. jlechem writes "Lindows and Microsoft are at it again. Wired News is running a story about Lindows refusing to take down the settlement website reported on by Slashdot earlier. CEO Michael Robertsone stated 'Our plan is to continue to offer the MSfreePC service in spite of your threats. If required, we will be a voice in the courtroom defending a consumer's right to use technology and an online process to secure their settlement claims.'"

MPAA Scratches Oscar Screeners xstein writes "In a follow up to this story, the major studios have agreed to go along the MPAA's proposal to stop sending out screener tapes and DVDs to Academy members. The agreement would include MPAA's seven studio members, Disney, WB, Sony, Universal, 20th Century Fox, Paramount, and MGM, as well as their affiliates, which include New Line, Miramax, Focus Features and Sony Pictures Classics. Dreamworks, although not an MPAA member, also agreed to the ban. This move scratches a longstanding tradition, and is seen to hurt smaller, independent-minded movies distributed by MPAA members the most, though may allow truly independent studios such as Lions Gate to gain extra attention with their screener tapes. E! Online and Salon.com have the scoop."

Phantom Offices? Ray B writes "On September 18th, Slashdot posted about an article on the Phantom video game console. Of particular note in the primary article investigating the Phantom's founder(s), was that the company did not even have physical offices.

Just four days later, the Phantom email Newsletter #2 is issued, with the first bit of news being:

"Infinium Labs recently signed a five-year lease on 10,000 sq. ft. of prime office space to locate its corporate offices in the Centre Pointe Building in downtown Sarasota, Florida. The Centre Pointe offices are in close proximity to many of the company's early investors, its corporate legal counsel and the industrial design firm that is developing the Phantom Game System(TM) prototypes"

Coincidence or damage control?"

Well, start with the Python then and work your way up. Wolfbone writes "A recent edition of 'Global Business,' a BBC World Service programme available here in RealAudio form, contains an admission that the BBC cannot afford to put it's entire archive online, contradicting an earlier Slashdot story and the BBC's own report. Even though it only has 11.56 Petabytes of the stuff, some of it recorded on wax cylinders, it would be too expensive, apparently, to keep their earlier promise. The rest of the programme is about the more general problems of long term archiving of data and how some organizations still don't trust digital electronic formats and prefer to stick with paper and microfiche."

Segway recall: in and out in 10 minutes! ptorrone writes "I got my Segway HT updated today, the 'recall' is a simple software update, it took 10 minutes and that was about it. To clarify what the recall is ...the HTs are not being sent back, Segway has people in each state of the USA and they update them. So far all owners have been notified and thousands have updated. The update makes it harder for people to ride after numerous low battery alerts (3 people out of 6,000 thought something else). Here are my pictures from the update procedure."

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  1. I'm a little confused.. by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... What does banning screeners do to affect Indie filmmmakers?

    Sorry if I'm being ignorant here, I'm not having a great day.

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    "Derp de derp."
    1. Re:I'm a little confused.. by exhilaration · · Score: 4, Informative
      and is seen to hurt smaller, independent-minded movies distributed by MPAA members

      He's talking about THAT, and it refers to the exposure that smaller films will lose because of this. Because they never got the same ad budget as the summer blockbusters, smaller films relied on the buzz generated by screeners, or so the blurb would suggest.

    2. Re:I'm a little confused.. by Klerck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many of the more indie films that happen to be distributed by the MPAA do not see wide release, perhaps only playing in New York or LA. Because of this, not all Academy members may get a chance to see them, and it can hurt the film's chances of being nominated for awards.

      Screeners allowed the Academy members to view movies in the comfort of their own homes or while travelling which means they wouldn't have to go out of their way to see a film that wasn't playing on thousands of screens nationwide.

    3. Re:I'm a little confused.. by JakiChan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Given the extremely limited distribution that a lot of indie films get and given how hard/expensive it is to make prints and such there is a strong chance that your average Academy voter would be unable to see one of the indie contenders in the theater. If the Academy member's cannot be sent a video or DVD then there's a strong chance they won't see the movie at all...and they probably wouldn't vote for a movie they haven't seen.

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    4. Re:I'm a little confused.. by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 3, Funny

      > they probably wouldn't vote for a movie they haven't seen.

      This is where the argument breaks down.

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    5. Re:I'm a little confused.. by aminorex · · Score: 2, Informative

      It helps indies because now only the indies
      will be sending out screeners. The majors
      have "banned" them, i.e., will not be sending
      them out. Thus indies will get a lot more
      academy exposure, and win more awards.

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  2. So... by Luigi30 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does that mean we can give Shrub a Segway, and he won't fall off this time?

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  3. Re:11.56 Petabytes by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Library of Congress might fit the bill. Depends on how much of their archive is already digital.

  4. So the obviously American Question... by QuantumRiff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How do i join the class action. I don't use my site much, just to put pics up for family and friends and stuff.. but the idea behind it really pisses me off. I have spam checkers (and sendmail) going apeshit about all these domains suddenly existing.. I don't really want a portion of the settlement (how unamerican of me) but I'd rather it go to schools. I just want versign to learn in the only way corporations do, with their wallet.

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    1. Re:So the obviously American Question... by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Funny
      It's from Robert Anton Wilson's "Scrodinger's Cat". Buy it, love it, live it :-)

      I used to have a winged penis image on the front page but then I started looking for a job...

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  5. VeriSign class action - 404? by Specialist2k · · Score: 5, Insightful
    After quickly scanning the class action document against VeriSign, I am shocked about the incompetence of the plaintiff's lawyers: Their argumentation about 404 error pages has nothing to do with VeriSign's DNS change.

    Is it that hard for a "high technology" law firm to understand how DNS works?

    A s/\"404\"/NXDOMAIN/g; would definitely improve their chances to win the law suit. ;-)

  6. Re:11.56 Petabytes by El · · Score: 3, Funny

    I believe the Windows(TM) bug database is fast approaching that size...

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  7. 404 is not the same as domain not found by Clipper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The actual complaint in the class action law suit has very serious confusion involving the technical issues surrounding the SiteFinder.

    In the introduction, they discuss that the SiteFinder replaces what was previously done with 404 errors. However, as has been previously discussed many times here on SlashDot, 404 errors occur when the domain exists, but the requested document does not exist on the webserver hosting that domain (it is the webserver than returns the 404 HTTP error code). In actually, when a domain didn't exist, you would get an error stating "Could not find domain". The complaint even describes how, in the past, incorrectly typing a URL would give a 404 error (they use the typo "ssyncalot.com" as a typo of "syncalot.com"). This behaviour never occured.

    Although I feel that legal action against Verisign is a good idea, the plaintiffs should perhaps organize their technical facts before appearing in court.

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  8. Phantom Offices by tessaiga · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Infinium Labs recently signed a five-year lease on 10,000 sq. ft. of prime office space to locate its corporate offices in the Centre Pointe Building in downtown Sarasota, Florida. The Centre Pointe offices are in close proximity to many of the company's early investors, its corporate legal counsel and the industrial design firm that is developing the Phantom Game System(TM) prototypes"

    Coincidence or damage control?

    It probably just means that enough investors have bought their hype that Timothy Roberts can now afford to splurge and start living the high life again. Look for the next press release to say that they're loading up on Aeron chairs for the employees.

    (By the way, the link in that article probably should have been this one.)

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  9. Re:NXDOMAIN by rootofevil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yea, they really showed verisign didnt they!

    be nice, or we will tape MORE paper up over your logo, so that people wont know where you work!

    that just screams obey.

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    turn up the jukebox and tell me a lie
  10. Cyber crime by leeward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I couldn't help but notice the quote from John Weglian, chief of the special units division of the prosecutor's office, when explaing why he is coming down so hard on modem uncappers. Cyber crime is potentially very damaging to society. We are taking a firm position on that type of criminal activity.

    Uh, yea. I guess that is why they are putting virtually no effort into stopping the blatantly criminal spam and viruses that are spewed out every day by the millions. Besides, law enforcement is so busy protecting companies... err I mean society... from uncappers.

  11. Re:11.56 Petabytes by nytes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, you're right.

    If the BBC were to use P2P to distribute this work, it would definitely be the case that would legitimize a massive, decentralized P2P network. If some of the stuff were to be controversial (e.g. stuff critical of China) that would also be justification for that same network to provide annonymity.

    Let the MPAA and RIAA try to vilify P2P then.

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  12. Watermarking? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wasn't there talk a while back about watermarking each DVD sent to the screeners, so they could track who leaked it?

    For preventative maintenance, they could have set up a DRM solution that depended on a screener's private key.

    They could have embedded the video on a BSD or Linux boot CD with an encrypted FS, so they'd have the DMCA on their side.

  13. NXDOMAIN signs are embarrassing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh God, how embarrassing are those NXDOMAIN signs! I live around 3 minutes from Middlefield and Ellis, and I drive by there everyday. I didn't see this "protest".

    Maybe, instead of using a dot-matrix printer, which made the letters almost invisible, they should have used a simple Sharpie pen. It would have been so much more visible. And maybe they should have used something else other than their obscure, stupid choice of words.

    I wish I could see this entire debacle unfold:
    1) Nerds spend hours thinking about a clever way of protesting
    2) Nerds dig out their old dot matrix printer and print out their clever sign
    3) Nerds put up sign outside of one of Verisign's buildings, not the HQ
    4) Nerds take pictures thinking about how clever they are, and scamper off
    5) Security guard comes by, sees sign, has no idea what it means, and throws sign in the trash.

    It has zero impact, and makes these nerds look like such losers

  14. Re:11.56 Petabytes by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Funny

    Patch database, maybe. I believe their bug database is word-of-mouth.

  15. Re:Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    (by the way moderator everyone needs a laugh sometimes)

    You presume to tell ME, the mighty, powerful, and ignorant Slashdot moderator, how to go about modding your comment?

    Offtopic for you! Meddle not in the affairs of moderators, for they are unsubtle, and quick to mod you down without cause.

  16. Download movie in 5 seconds? by Ryu2 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From the E! Online article:

    Valenti says a new program developed by Caltech researchers allows a movie file to be downloaded in five seconds

    Did I miss something here? Is this some quantum leap in information theory/signal compression? Or maybe Caltech was doing some tests in their labs on a gigabit Ethernet connection, and Valenti thought that it meant that any home user could achieve such download times as well?

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    1. Re:Download movie in 5 seconds? by gothicpoet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You were expecting perhaps that things coming out of Jack Valenti's mouth would have some form of reason to them other than propoganda? That perhaps they would actually make sense?

      pshaw.

      (I always wanted a good use for that word.)

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      "It's all academic anyway..."
  17. random domain lookups by jeffmock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm just thinking, if a few high volume websites were to include links to a 1-pixel GIF at bogus randomly generated domains, wouldn't sitefinder crumble, and zero the value of any collected statistics on domain name typos.

    I think this would be much more entertaining than lawsuits or BIND hacks...

    jeff

    1. Re:random domain lookups by yerricde · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've written a simple C program to do something similar, except it generates Netcraft queries of pseudorandom but legit-looking domain names, thus pushing up Apache's Netcraft rank at the expense of IIS. A competent programmer could probably adapt it to generate HTML that requests a PNG image while rewriting it in one of the Three P's of Dynamic Web Pages (Perl, Python, and PHP).

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  18. "MPAA Scratches Oscar Screeners" - Its Ok! Really! by Snaller · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Academy members will just download the movies from the internet instead!

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    If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
  19. Re:Antivirus market for Linux the fastest-growing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The most common use of anti-virus on Linux is for scanning and removing viruses destined for Windows machines.

    Client side scanning isn't as effective as server side virus scanning because people don't update their virus sigs as often as they should. With a server side solution, you can update it every hour, and protect thousands of windows users.

    I doubt Kaspersky is gonna put much of a dent in this market though with their high prices. I see they charge $2045 for their AV product for Linux mailservers, which only covers 500 users.

    With RAV you were good for 2 domains and unlimited users for $300

    I was bit by the shutting down of RAV, but have since moved to BitDefender.
    Their AV solution costs $225

    http://www.bitdefender.com/bd/site/buy1.php

    I use it with sendmail.
    It is easy to set-up, takes less than 5 minutes. Just install the tarball or the RPM, enter in your relay domains and IP addresses. It installs an SMTP proxy and moves sendmail to port 10025

    The smtp proxy accepts the mail scans for viruses and passes it off to sendmail. I have it running on a 266Mhz with 64MB of RAM and it averages around a .3-.6 load for my 2500 email users.

    Even most anti-spam solutions for Linux are ridiculously priced. Some costing thousands of dollars when SpamAssassin/MimeDefang are free, and probably work as good if not better than commercial solutions.

    I set-up MimeDefang and Spamassassin on one of those cheap $400 Dells with the 2.2 celeron. I added half a GIG of memory to it, and it now stops around 120,000 pieces of spam per day with a load average around .6

    My entire anti-spam/anti-virus solution cost me
    less than $800 when I could have easily spent anywheres from $4000-$10,000+ for other solutions.

  20. Complain about VeriSign here! by SEE · · Score: 5, Insightful
    1. The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate .com and .org was originally with them.
    2. The Federal Communications Commission, which oversees telecommunications.
    3. The Senate Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Communications; contact the committee itself, the chairman, the ranking member, and any of the other members you'd like.
    4. The House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, including the committee itself, the chairman, the vice-chairman, and the ranking member. Plus any of the other members you feel like contacting.
    5. The Federal Trade Commission, which hears consumer complaints.
    6. Your U.S. Representative
    7. Your Senators
    8. Your Governor
    9. Your State Legislators
    10. ICANN's wildcard comment address
    11. VeriSign itself
    12. Finally, complain to the media. If they get lots of letters on a topic, they'll run stories. Try the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, NBC News and MSNBC.
    1. Re:Complain about VeriSign here! by Elbow+Macaroni · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Since ICANN doesn't seem to be very good at "stabilizing" the Internet as they were supposed to be doing can't someone sue them for allowing this to go on?

      ICANN was set up to oversee all the registrars but it seems they are just allowing Verisign to get away with whatever it wants to.

      I've had Verisign attempt to hijack domains by pretending they didn't receive payments, I had them actually take domains claiming they were unpaid for when they were, I've had them steal my own domain name, transfer it to another of thier companies and then resell it to me for $1,200.

      Can't ICANN be held responsible for what they are allowing Verisign to get away with?

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  21. ideas... by pr0ntab · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you should surround that system with a fork/forget, and add a timeout to the wget (or use curl with "-m #") so that you don't spawn off too many. (make sure to reap children in the spawning loop).

    I'm sure a machine on a broadband connection could spawn 40 requests in the time it takes one to reply.

    Finally, you should really consider not using the bare URLs in the request because all you really do is hammer your local DNS server.

    instead, make fake requests DIRECTLY to sitefinder-idn.verisign.com. To see what the request ends up looking like, run wget with headers turned on with one of those fake queries.

    Then duplicate the request but substitute that static IP address. Your ISP won't think you're DoS'ing their DNS.

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  22. Uncapping and the Law by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If ignorance of the law is no excuse, then neither is ignorance by the Law.

    I'm amazed at the complete and total lack of technological prowess exhibited by the law enforcement officials in the Buckeye case. Law enfarcement is closer to the mark. Hell, forget the computer skills ... how about some basic common sense? It's just unbelievable. How on EARTH could anyone believe that 23 individuals could appropriate a QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS of bandwidth over cable modems in such a short period? It's not like they were tapping into an OC3 or a major fiber trunk. One would have every right to expect the cops to have at least asked for some evidence that an actual crime was committed! I am truly staggered. Okay, a cable company behaved in an unethical and/or criminal manner (insert sincere expression of surprise here) but the fact that a bunch of supposedly professional "police officers" were so easily taken in is, well, disappointing.

    Somebody higher up in the cops' food chain should have said "WTF? Slap their wrists, say you're sorry, and send these guys home." This is called oversight, and it is supposed to prevent such egregious abuses. I imagine it would probably have been more than sufficient to deter any future "abberrant" behavior. But ... arrests? Seizures? FELONY CHARGES? My God. People speeding in cars who run red lights and might actually kill someone are given more respect. Gang-bangers that shoot people dead in the street can get better treatment! What were these cops thinking? Were they thinking?

    Law enforcement purports to protect us from wrongdoing and frequently does, but this level of irrationality by government officials is just unnerving. I mean, what kind of judge signed the warrants that (I presume) were presented during these raids? Whoever he (or she) was ought to turn in his (or her) robes immediately, and go work in a computer store for a few months and learn a few useful facts before returning to the bench. I would further venture to guess that there are many judges who would benefit from such training. My apologies to any judges in the Slashdot audience, but considering how many poor technology decisions I've seen handed down by the Judiciary lately I feel justified in my opinion. It is no longer enough to simply understand the Law: one must have a good grasp of scientific and engineering principles as well, and a basic understanding of such terms as "bandwidth" probably wouldn't hurt!

    The sad truth is that merely being accused of a crime in this country is punitive in and of itself. The sadder truth is the increasing number of individuals and corporations who abuse that fact for fun, profit, or as a means of intimidation. This reminds me of some older cases involving the Bell System where publicly-available documents that were accessed by crackers were arbitrarily valued at tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. This was done solely and deliberately to exceed legal minimums on financial damage to enable law enforcement to take action. This kind of behavior is unethical as hell, and should be illegal in and of itself, if it isn't already.

    And I'll further say this: the rest of the nation's cable companies had better start distancing themselves from the Buckeye debacle. If they're smart, they'll indemnify their users from such actions, and limit their own recourse to termination of services, in writing. For most people, broadband is an expensive luxury, yet one that most have felt safe in using (viruses, trojans, hackers and spyware notwithstanding.) At least, we weren't afraid of the service provider itself.

    If the public perception of broadband shifts to one of fear and anxiety (we're already well-past loathing) users will simply put that disposable income into some other avenue of entertainment. If that comes to pass they won't need to worry about bandwidth caps: they'll be out of business, and then were would I get my MP3s?

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  23. An actual reply from the law firm by the_illuminatus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I emailed the law firm involved, and was stunned to actually get an answer:

    The NXDOMAIN issue is part of the case as well - in Federal Court we have
    mere "notice" pleading - frankly we could have simply said "they broke the
    internet and we want the Court to fix it" and that would have been enough to
    get the case started...Slashdot rocks and I do read the postings ;-)

    Ira

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Chris Daniel"
    To:
    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:50 PM
    Subject: Verisign Case

    > It appears you are attempting to sue Verisgn (we applaud you at Slashdot) but are suing them for something completely unrelated: a 404 error. The error that should be discussed is the NXDOMAIN error!

    > Thank you, and best of luck with nailing the bastards.

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    knee-jerk? check. post? check. okay, time to read the article.
  24. Bandwidth and how it's sold... by syukton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The thing that gets me is that broadband providers never have a minimum speed that they guarantee. If they do, it's something extremely small; ie, Earthlink guarantees 2400bps on its DSL service. However they usually do have a maximum speed which, if exceeded, they'll take notice. The double standard amuses me, "If we're giving the customer piss poor service we don't care but if they're getting really good connection speeds we do." Hmmm...

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  25. And don't forget their "sponsors" either... by WEFUNK · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow, great job tracking down these e-mails. Also, don't forget to contact the companies actually paying for SiteFinder, especially if you or your business have a relationship with them. Here are a few of them (websites only, someone else can find the contacts). Let them know what they're association with VeriSign is contributing to (domain name hijacking, disruption of internet standards, interference with spam filters, etc.) and that you'll encourage others to avoid (boycott) their products where ever possible. Some might not care (the gambling sites, for instance), but some should probably know better (E-bay, Dell, Pixar, etc.), and I bet that most don't have a clue and probably think they're being "net savvy" by promoting their products this way (such as the upcoming movies "Veronica Guerin" and "Brother Bear").

    Let them know that what they're associated with is possibly illegal, is the subject of at least one class action lawsuit, and has some of the largest and active Internet communities and the Internet's governing body up in arms. And if they don't respond, you really should avoid their sites and services, miss their movie, or tell purchasing to avoid their computers as much as possible.

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