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Interview with John Scully
worm eater writes "CNet news has an interesting interview with John Scully, CEO of Apple back in the day. He talks about problems and potential in the computer industry, and expresses regret over the opportunities Apple missed with some key technologies -- such as HyperCard and the Newton."
You serious?
The Newton was the first "modern" PDA to be sold in any quantity. Yea, the first ones had pretty poor handwriting recognition, but it rapidly improved.
Hypercard was a rad tool that could have been used to build something very much like todays web - but a few years earlier.
The Newton was the sole creation of Steve Sakoman (ex-Be, now back at Apple) under the supervision and the "protection" of ex-Be's JLG (ex-Apple executive as well). Sculley had VERY LITTLE to do with the Newton, at least in the beginning.
Hardware and software have different volume relationships..
while software once created can be sold at huge volume with low fixed startup costs..
Hardware has high fixed costs to produe it it high volume..
Don't Tread on OpenSource
Both HyperCard and the Newton were innovative, influential, and as is often the case, poorly timed relative to technology trends.
HyperCard: here was a programming and publishing framework designed to be approachable and usable by every-day people, with the added bonus of "immediate gratification"- the act of writing code immediately produced a tangible artifact, much like writing HTML today immediately produces a web page that anybody can visit. But, HyperCard predated widespread Internet usage and the Web, and nobody could figure out what it was good for (except fancy slide shows and choose-your-own-adventure style storyboards).
Newton: to be sure, the Newton borrowed heavily from previous projects and products (including stuff from Xerox PARC and Marc Weiser's ubiquitous computing vision). But, once again, Apple innovated. The device was (almost) powerful enough to run useful software while disconnected, the UI was pen-driven, and the device was energy concious enough to be usable throughout the day without docking it for recharging. Here was a physical appliance targetted towards being a useful digital assistant, and here was a computing model radically different than desktop PCs that everybody was used to. Unfortunately, mobile processors weren't fast or energy-miserly enough yet, handwriting recognition was poor and graffiti-like techniques weren't there, the device was the wrong form factor, and a bunch of stuff was thrown in there that wasn't useful (like the "soup" programming paradigm).
Tons of innovation, tons of influence, but before their time and hence market failures.
Argh!!! It's "Sculley"! "Scully" is the "Jones" of the county of Kork, Ireland (i.e. the correct spelling). Sculley's ancestors didn't bother to explain the proper spelling to the folks on Ellis Island, apparently.
What about SuperCard?
I don't know how good the OS X version is, but eight years ago, you could seamlessly import most HyperCard stacks into SuperCard...
Yes, but Sakoman's Newton had very little to do with the Newton that eventually shipped. It was a much different project, more along the lines of the Jaguar, than what became the PDA.
Forget Sakoman's Hobbit-based Newton.
Forget Swatch.
Newton never would have become what it did without Sculley. Sculley latched onto the idea and get behind it big time. It was his largest effort as the CTO. It was a whole technology, it was going to be a whole new branch of Apple, an entire family of products.
Sculley was so Newton-crazy that he "used" a mock-up (no, not a Nuttin') on stage at one of the Apple employee meetings. He was up there acting as if he were taking notes on it and instead I guess just getting a feel for it.
Anyway, leave Sakoman out of it. Hell, leave Michael Tchao out of it too. You can talk about inventors all day. People can't even agree who invented the television. Skip all that.
Newton became what it was because of Sculley. It never would have seen the light of day without him.
If you read the book 'Startup' it details how the guy who came up with the Pen computer idea (and went on to try and compete with Microsoft's Windows for Pen Computing, Apples Newton, and the EO communicator among others) had originally told his friends about his idea. One of his friends was this apple guy [sakoman i guess, it's been a good 6 or 8 years since i read the book] who then talked about it there and got the funding and encouragement of Gassant and Apple as mentioned above. But originally the guy who had the idea and shared it with him, he did not intend for the other guy to go off and work on it with big funding at Apple without him!
So the Newton I had with the PC serial cable and the PC syncing software ws what now? The Newton could sync with a PC just fine. Id say the failing of the Newton is due mainly to missinformation from people who never used the product.
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What someone needs to do is write a drop in replacement for cocoa that runs on top of X.
Some people are trying. Check out the GNUStep project.
Be aware though, that the X window system is roughly equal in capabilities to the original color quickdraw environment, and simply can't handle the sophisticated visual effects that the Quartz engine can.
-jcr
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Scully chose Plan B, which pretty much permenently doomed them to a nitch player.
This is entirely off-topic, but clearly you are an American.
It's niche, and it's pronounced "neesh". (more or less)
Same for clique. "Cleek". (more or less)
They are both French, but you Americans have managed to bastardize them into an unrecognizable mess.
While I wouldn't call Sculley an asshole, Apple's boom years during Sculley's tenure as CEO were the result of projects conceived and decisions made before he became CEO. He got to enjoy the fruits of the Macintosh, the Laserwriter, PageMaker, etc. He milked these markets for what they were worth at the expense of moving Apple into new markets (like the doomed "Star Trek" project, MacOS on PCs). He was a mediocre leader at Apple. Michael Spindler, and to a lesser extent, Gil Amelio are the ones that killed Apple.
The first version of Myst was done in Hypercard.
yes and no.
the 1st version of Myst was done with Hypercard, but they hacked it up so much that if you didn't know what the transitions looked like you wouldn't know that it was hypercard. for example they added color and quicktime, which took _years_ for the shipping version of HyperCard to gain, and even then, transitions didn't work with apples color hack.
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You might want to try SuperCard; you can even import your old HyperCard stacks in and they will probably work. (Mine mostly worked when I tried it; I did have to make some small changes but not too much.) SuperTalk is pretty much HyperTalk with some additions (and a couple of things removed), and color works much better in SuperCard than the hack they did to include color in HyperCard.
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