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10th Circuit Says FTC Can Enforce Do Not Call
TCPALaw writes "Reuters is reporting
that the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals has just ruled that the FTC can
go ahead with administration and enforcement of the national Do-Not-Call
list, staying a lower court ruling that blocked the FTC from
implementing the list. Now I can sue
those pesky telemarketers .. I have already gotten
3 telemarketing calls to the phone number I put on the national list
since the list went into effect."
Reader jhlund1976 points to the court's decision itself. Note, as
strredwolf does, that this only means the FTC can "run the registry while a
challenge from telemarketers winds its way through the courts." Strredwolf also points to the
all-knowing
Google News link.
It won't effect this type of scum http://www.datausainc.com
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Finally a good ruling on this. I have heard enough about free-speech, etc. The court has affirmed a simple fact: people have the right to end harassment against them.
Yes you have a right to say "dont speak to me". But you need the government's help to enforce that. If the government agrees to help you enforce that against some callers and not others, then thats fundamentally unfair is it not?
I am getting calls, but the callers say that it is legal because "they are not selling anything". They want to 1) lower my interest rate on my non-existant mortgage, 2) Have me over for 3 hours to watch their presentation on a time share, or 3) sell me insurance.
Why do these people think they can get away with it? Should I report them? I suspect that this law is filled with all sorts of holes, as usual. Anyone care to comment or having similar experiences?
"If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid." - Epictetus
thinking about this. I wouldn't even sign up for the registry when a computer can now be used to screen your calls. It might just help those offshore telemarketing companies in annoying you at dinner if they can easily access the registry without even paying!
>here in Canada, where people apologize for everything, the telemarketers mumble an apology and dont call back. this kind of shows the fundamental differences between the two cultures.
Well, I'm living here in Canada. Had an ADAD phone me at work selling some cars (blatantly illegal activity there). Being not-an-asshole, rather than phone the police and have their line disco'ed, I called them back and let them know the law (it's in the phone book, too).
They said "Oh, well, our guy says that doesn't exist". Uhhuhh, yeah right. My phone book is pirated. That must be it. Well, anyways, they're not phoning me, probably because they know next time I'm calling the cops. But more apologetic? Please.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
[quote] At the end of the day its my choice if I want to speak to someone. If someone in the street says hi and I don't want to speak to them I won't. Also if I put a sign round my neck saying "Don't speak to me", as its my right I would like to think people would respect that.[/quote]
So I lose my Freedom of Speech due to your yearn for silence? I'm not so sure I buy that. However, if you paid to walk down the street, you should be able to regulate what happens, to a certain extent, while walking down the street. I mean after all, it is a monthly service, isn't it?
No they're not telemarketers, but they are researchers. The people that call during dinner and ask for 'opinions' in efforts to 'improve customer service'. Yeah it's legal. I know cause I "USED" to work for them. and they suck.
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7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. (MST)
Phone:
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Toll free:
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Fax:
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Address:
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Sign them up for mailing lists etc. And JAM their phone lines.
Oh yeah, call the Microsoft Dogs on them. They have illegal copies of Windows , illegally registered copies of winzip (you can tell when the registration name is X and code is obviously hacked). and a multitude of pirated software on their systems.
I know, I work there. And I dont' care of the company goes under. They suck [goatse.cx]
Now I can sue the telemarketers, if someone ever gets on the line that is. A few weeks ago I decided to just start f#*$ing with the telemarketers. Sound like I'm interested, and keep them on the line for a while and then just start meowing.
What I've discovered is that most of the time when I pick up the phone and say hello I just hear clicks and then it hangs up on me. I get like 8 calls a day like this and most of the time never get to speak to someone. I finally got sick of it and did a *77 which is supposed to block calls without caller ID info but I'm guessing it only works for the Private (ie blocked) calls and not the Unavailable calls that come from most telemarketers.
I understand that computers do the actual dialing and they call multiple people and the first to answer and trigger the voice recognition software gets to the actual telemarketing drone but even when I answer on the first ring and start saying "Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?...." it still hangs up on me.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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It amazes me how stupid net-savvy people are when it comes to reading laws.
Note to the author of the writeup:
This list is only going to save you from telemarketing "cold calls" which are usually calls from newspapers asking you to sign up.
This is not going to get rid of calls from people calling on behalf of the phone company, your credit card, or your bank.
This is also not going to get rid of the police and fire dept. "cold calls" that you get from time to time.
If anything, this list is a great way to give illegitimate telemarketing enterprises a free list of names. If you notice an *increase* in telemarketing calls, you'll think back to my response here and slap your forehead.
And if you think you can turn these companies in by yourself, that's great. Just try starting a lawsuit. Let's see how far you get before you give up cause of the time you have to put into it. My guess is you'll start looking at the annoyance of calls as simple compared to the annoyance of trying to figure out exactly *who* it is that you can sue.
If you have ever posted with "IANAL" you're basically SOL.
One way to screw telemarketing companies is to simply leave your phone off the hook. This holds open the switch at the exchange so even when they hang up and pick the phone up again, it is still connected to your line. This is why you are told not to hang up if there is a bomb threat - it keeps the connection open so they cannot use the phone again, and allows the phone company/police to track the line even if it is spoofed.
:)
It means that you've tied up that particular phone line until YOU decide to hang up. In my case, since I don't get many calls to my landline and people who know me call my mobile, I can leave it open a LOOOONNNGGG time!
If everyone did this, instead of the first reaction (to hang up), they would soon be immobilised.
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