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Mad Hatter Preview - Sun Java Desktop System Demo

bengine writes "According to this article, Sun Java Desktop System is a good product overall, built on the well-established SuSE system with integration from Sun. It delivers what appears to be a very useful desktop OS and it has the chance to make a dent in the Windows monopoly. But Sun will have to differentiate itself on its quality, hardware, services and reputation. That means a lot of hard work, so the key questions will be how well they execute their strategy, how much public acceptance they gain and what message they convey through public venues." This makes a good companion to the earlier story linking to Mad Hatter screenshots.

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  1. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fp - baby

    1. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Woho! Not only is Arnie Governator - this is my 4th fp. They'll be shaggin in the aisles tonight.

      Suck it down.

      Moomin

  2. Dent, yeah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Everything has a chance for a dent. into Windows monopoly. Like goatse guy has a chance to shrink his hole.

  3. Georgy Russell and political reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Georgy Russell is a fine illustration of everything that's wrong with the United States political system. Our Founding Fathers gave everybody the right to vote and participate under the assumption that most people who WOULD participate were of at least average intelligence and abilities. The fact that a numb cunt like Russell was permitted to enter the race at all should be clear evidence that somewhere, something went terribly wrong. To begin with, she has no apparent leadership ability, only that stale and very outdated idealistic dogma that business is bad and anything calling itself "progressive" is good. To read her angry comments about anybody who disagrees with her is to see the real Georgy Russell: a spiteful, immature, hateful, spoiled little bitch who has a lot of growing up to do. Secondly, her unwillingness to take a stand on even minor issues, such as "vi vs. emacs", leads one to wonder how she could possibly hope to be taken seriously on important issues like budget reform or the electricity mess in California. Finally, it should be obvious to most observers that the only reason she received any momentum at all is that she's an attractive girl who knows a thing or two about computers. If it weren't for thousands of hackers, who are known to be primarily overweight and antisocial loners, she would have disappeared immediately. One wonders if Russell realizes that she will be remembered far longer as a vision in the minds of thousands of masturbating geeks than as a political figure.

  4. Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

  5. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

    aslhdsalhda

    1. Re:SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Oh. Sorry, I was trying to mod down the other Anonymous Coward.

    2. Re:SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by michib01 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Free speech does not mean a community can not moderate itself.
      As long as you are allowed to post your comment, without having it deleted by other users, there is free speech.

      And, according to free speech principle, other members can say "I do not agree with you". That is, modding down a comment.

      --
      - "Having a clean conscience is sign of bad memory"
  6. Show your patriotism. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  7. I'm afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that java was designed so "some people" [1] can write platform independent viruses and spyware. Therefore, if for example you oppose the government your toaster will start launching toasts at you, your computer erases your p0rn, the telephone is ringing and when you pick it up you hear the sound of a ringing telephone on the other end of the line, the TV opens and you see a room with people who watch a TV which shows you in your room watching the TV, etc. No thanks.

    [1] NSA. CIA. RIAA.

  8. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

    zxcv

  9. I love you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You never call me.

    *sigh*

  10. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

    llokk

  11. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

    zzra

  12. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

    123

  13. moron information manipulation/censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    it's not that they don't agree. the 'problem', is that they MuSt attempt to 'filter' posts that are representative of real folks' honest opinions/experiences, in favour of their 'obligations' to their phonIE ?pr? ?firm? scriptdead corepirate nazi sponsors.

    lookout bullow on that won. tell 'em robbIE?

    results always reflect the motives. look at the whoreabully infactdead BugWear(tm). still touted as having the ability to create more&more billyonerrors, when, in fact, we already have had more than enough, of that form of felonious execrable.

  14. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderators are targeting individual users and modding down every comment they post just because they don't agree with their opinions.

    For people that claim to love free-speech, you practice censorship an awful lot.

    7789

  15. Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...your mare runs WITHOUT java!

    MARES RULE!

  16. This is not effective. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You're not going to gain sympathy by infuriating everyone with your annoying posts. Repeated posting suggest that your frustration has gotten the better of you, and that possibly, you deserve the moderation that came your way. If you want to make a real case for this, e-mail the Slashdot editors.

    Until then, kindly stop bothering us with this nonsense.

  17. SLASHDOT CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    version 1.2.1, (last updated 20th July 2002)

    Note to moderators : Do not moderate this post down, if you do then you support the editors stance on censorship and you support the end of free speech and support evil organisations like Microsoft, RIAA, MPAA and laws like the CBTBA and DMCA. Moderating this post will only waste mod points, and will not work!

    Sign this petition, let your voice be heard!

    Slashdot is using censorship! It is trying to eridicate free and open discussion like we know slashdot to be, it has the following RESTRICTIONS in place to Censor you

    They claim they don't, but they do, wonder why their are so many trolls, crapflooders and lamers on slashdot, because they are fighting for their rights! Slashdot is trying to silence the trolls. Remove the filters, the trolls get bored, and slashdot will be troll free!
    • Lameness filters (It blocks a lot of legitmate posts)
    • Unnessary posting delays. Hasnt taco learned to touch type? A lot of posts are typed in less than 20 seconds and it is a ANNOYING DELAY! 2 minute ban? Come on, so some are faster then others, big deal, some people have more to say than others
    • Broken moderation system, The whole point is to sort the gems from the crap, yet a lot of posts designed to make a LIVELY DISCUSSION are MODERATED as flamebait! Come on, not everyone likes X, but just because some one bashes it dosent mean its Flamebait. Flame bait is more useful for DIRECT INSULTS and not legitmate discussions.

    The "troll" moderation reason is fragmented and broken, why? Because they are trying to use an obsolete usenet term on a realtime discussion, "trolls" can cover a huge blanket of ideas.

    • Crapfloods, a meaningless flood of random letters or text, which the lameness filter does a crappy job at trying to stop, besides trolls have written tools using the opensource slashcode to generate crapfloods which bypass the filter
    • Links to offensive websites, the most common one is known a http://www.goatse.cx, a awful site which shows a bleeding anus being stretched on the front page. Trolls sneak these links in by posting messages that look legitimate, but infact are sneaky redirects to the site. Common examples include rd.yahoo.com, www.linux-kernel.tk, goatsex.cjb.net, and googles "Im feeling lucky".
    • Trying to break slashdot, this is actually a good thing, as it helps test slashdot for bugs. Famous examples include the goatse.cx javascript pop-up, the pagewidening post and the browser crashing post!

    Subnet banning, this bans a user unless they email jamie macarthy with their mp5ed ipids. This is unfair, and banning a subnet BLOCKS A WHOLE ISP SOMETIMES, and not that individual user! This can cause chaos! But real trolls use annoymous proxys to get around this so THIS JUST BANS LEGITMATE USERS! Also, they are trying to censor some anoymous proxies, mainly from countrys like africa, so this yet more DISCRIMINATION!

    Pink page of Death, This censors people who use legitmate proxys or firewalls.

    The Bitchslap! An unethical punishment which is applied to moderators who fight censorship against this site! In addition the Editors use their un-limited mod points to create a communist style censored discussion on slashdot!

    But, the issue that concerens us the most, is the COMMENT QUOTA. A discrimatory system that stiffles discussion, cripples the community and will ultimateley destroy slashdot unless it is removed! Annoymous cowards are allowed only 10 posts a day! This is unethical! Users with negative karma only get two! That is DISCRIMINATION! How would you like to only be able to speak once a day, just because of the color of your skin. That would be racism, and slashdot is discrimitating on people just because of a negative number in a database! BOYCOTT SLASHDOT! LET THEM D

  18. Still using an old business model? by jubalj · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    While it is good to see Sun embracing linux, isnt it still trying to run things using, what seems like a closed source model?

    I mean whats with the crippled liveCD? is even the Live CD going to be available for free public download?

    This makes me wonder about how much of the CD is actually GPL? All of the additional bits that sun has added probably arent opensource. How long before we see unofficial ISOs of the GPL'd portion?

  19. Re:It's still GNOME. by turgid · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Off topic - if Apple were to port OSX to X86 commodity hardware, I'm sure that we'd have a lot of businesses jumping on board - especially in the light of the "Homogenous Windows Environments Are Bad" article. It just makes good sense.

    The G5 is selling like hot cakes. They can't make enough of them. Porting to x86 wouldn't make the blind bit of difference. 32-bit is going the way of the dodo. The G5 is 64-bit, and IBM has an amazing roadmap going forward. People are going Apple in their droves. Most people want a nice, shiny, easy-to-use, integrated and fast system. That's what Apple is selling. I don't work for Apple :-(